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    1. Member One Gray GLI's Avatar
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      04-05-2011 03:25 PM #36


      462whp/435wtq @ 19psi on my old modified EIP stg2 kit, turbonetics t04b turbo, 3" downpipe, uni 630cc file.

      don't have a dyno sheet for my new setup on the same dyno.

      not getting emotional, just saying you're underestimating your goals, the R head was overkill if anything if all you wanted was 400-450whp on pump, 12v guys make 500whp on pump gas fairly reliably on HG spacer motors, with a crappy flowing head.
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      04-05-2011 03:41 PM #37
      Those are great numbers at 19psi. What is your comp ratio with the spacer? I was not doubting your numbers or your beast. Like i said, my example was an estimate of what i have seen. It also is an example of why some of us want to play with the R head.
      My goals for this build is to max out injectors. The only question is at what power level.
      My entire motor is overbuilt for the fwd chassis anyway. The bottom end and R head are built for 6-800awhp in an S4 chassis down the road. The true benefit to this head is efficiency--same power levels at lower boost.
      Thanks for the comments--keep 'em comin...

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      04-05-2011 03:54 PM #38
      at those power goals on our cars(mk4, not the a4/s4 platform) the problem is that you'll shear the teeth off the gears, especially 4th, due to the torque. of course, the FWD platform has more give in it(the tires spinning = not as much stress, obviously because the power isn't completely getting to the ground)

      that was 9:1 if i recall correctly though. but yeah, as I said, not trying to be negative at all, I'm just saying you should look forward to more power than you expect, especially with the R head.

      watching though.
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      04-06-2011 09:25 PM #39
      im doing a n/a build with a 3.2 head on a 2.8 block which head gasket did you use i know that the releses are good enough in the pistons for the 3.2 head i also heard its very closes any info would be awesome

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      04-06-2011 10:07 PM #40
      I used a 2.8l 24v headgasket. I was told this gasket is good up to an 83mm bore. I punched mine out to 82mm ~ 2.9l 8:5:1comp ratio JE pistons. I did not clay the motor, but the only thing i would worry about in keeping a stock bore with R head is possible valve shrouding.


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      04-09-2011 04:29 PM #41
      Just a couple pics from today:






      Fuel rail and injectors are in. We are begining to thin the harness and extend some things. All sensors have been installed, and the motor is good to go.
      More to come tommorrow

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      Wiring can be fun......

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      04-16-2011 02:43 PM #43


      More wiring......

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      04-16-2011 02:53 PM #44
      Hope you hide the wiring (like making it long enough to tuck it all). It's looking sick! But a bunch of wires everywhere could take away from that.. Either way this build is awesomely sick.
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      04-16-2011 07:42 PM #45




      We extended the coil wires by about 4 inchs, and will be replacing some of the plastic that held the loom with some aluminum rail....the wire harness is going to be as hidden in plain sight and clean as we can make it. Very mundane but important touches.....
      More to come...

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    12. 04-17-2011 05:37 PM #47
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      05-01-2011 07:15 PM #48
      Wiring is complete. The harness is hidden "in plain sight". The coil pack wires have been lengthened to sit the wires in a channel.










      Got my R wheel in and i reinstalled my leathers with the heated seat harness installed. First time seats have been in the car in almost two years. Got some work to do to clean up accessories, alternator, etc....then its time to get my ride off jackstands and back on its wheels.
      here is a bad pic of my trunk set-up with the awic pump n resevoir.




      Thanks for lookin
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      05-06-2011 03:29 PM #49


      Gettin syc'd for some weekend work.

      Gonna have the completed wire loom completely secured n buttoned up on the block. The alternator is being cleaned up now n that should be installed tommorrow. The interior has to be completed and we will be fitting Focal Polyglass 2-way coaxials in the doors matched to a kenwood 5 channel excelon xr-5s. Gotta space the doors out n still fit monster magnets behind the door panel.

      Hoping to get my chasis off jackstands for the first time in 21 months, and back on wheels. Then its engine swappin tree time......










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      05-07-2011 01:30 AM #50
      Holy ****! What caused that??
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      05-07-2011 11:35 AM #51
      That is a 1.8t piston that was running total seal rings and was beaten to death in 20k HARD miles on a GT30.
      Ring failure plus 9500+rpm almost daily beatings.

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      05-09-2011 03:28 AM #53
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      05-11-2011 09:16 PM #54










      Got a ton of work to do on the chasis this weekend. Brake lines, rear suspension, brakes, swaybars, etc...
      Gonna get this beast off jackstands and rolling on its own wheels for first time in 21 months.

      Interior is getting there--all seats, trim, speakers, n steering wheel installed.
      The motor is wired and we can start looking at some basic plumbing before dropping the drivetrain into the car in two weeks.

      More to come…

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      05-21-2011 03:07 PM #55
      Working on the chassis. Rear suspension and sway is in. Rear brakes are also just about complete. Hope you can see some of the powdercoated pieces. Went with an interesting gold on brake calipers and both sways.
      Car is running Billstein PSS 9 coilovers, neuspeed front/rear sways, and OEM Audi TT/VW GLI calipers/carriers.
      This car was originally a base model 2.0 5 spd car, and the brake upgrades were originally installed 100k+ ago. The PSS 9's have maybe 3k miles on them. Everything is being refreshed and looks good. We plan to corner balance the car/suspension when all is said and done.
      Enjoy……









      Motor goes in next weekend. Working on front brakes, suspension, subframe, etc. tommorrow.

      Lots more to come…
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      05-21-2011 07:53 PM #56
      This thing is going to be beast.
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      05-24-2011 11:25 AM #57
      Couple questions for you guys.....i need a new dipstick, and want to use a universal braided dipstick, but need to know the size of the dipstick hole in the block. Anyone have ideas or used something like this on our 2.8l or 3.2l blocks?
      Also, i need hardware for the two ports on my Area 51 intake mani. Phree is trying to get some sizes for fittings for me, but if anyone has ideas or stats, please post up. I am also looking for diagrahms of vacuum line routing. Feel free to post up suggestions, pics, etc...

      I also need advice for front brake pads. I had purchased EBC red pads for front n rear, but the front pads are missing. I will probably pick up a set locally from NAPA or autozone. Anyone have suggestions? EBC reds are on the rears. Rotors are slotted n drilled. This is a street car, with limited track time in the future.

      Thanks guys.....trying to get prepped for a big weekend.

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      05-24-2011 03:17 PM #58
      I looked and dont have any detailed pics of those ports.

      I have Hawk HPS pads all round, they arent bad. I have liked em so far.
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      05-25-2011 07:54 PM #59
      Well there seems to be a debate on what size those ports are on the Area 51 manifold. The build thread of the mani documents they are -6 an o-ring thread; However, when i contacted the retail side of the opperation(now BSH) i was told they are 1/8' NPT.
      Guess i will find out Saturday. If anyone has vacuum routing diaghrams or pics, please post up...

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      05-26-2011 12:49 PM #60
      I think the originals had the -6, the company that ripped em off and started making them may have -8's. But I am not sure.
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      05-26-2011 08:55 PM #61
      what head studs did you use .:R or 2.8?

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      05-26-2011 10:12 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by turboginster97 View Post
      what head studs did you use .:R or 2.8?
      i believe you use the 2.8 studs with the 3.2 head iirc,

      if im wrong im sure someone (OP, PhReE, or Dr. Brown) will chime in
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      05-27-2011 06:52 AM #63
      I used a set of custom ARP headstuds that were made by INA/Issam specificly for a 2.8l bottom end with an R32 head. These studs are most similar to the 2.8l studs with extra length added to make up for the differences in head design(3.2l head vs 2.8l head).

      I have an extra set of headstuds if anyone needs them for another R head build.

      Phree, it looks as though i have one of the original 10-20 intake manifolds completed during the "Sheet metal intake build thread. We got -6an o-ring bungs on this puppy.

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      05-28-2011 02:02 PM #64
      Confirmed...-6 an o-ring fittings on the Area 51 intake manifold.

      Its hot out today...working on some little touches on the motor, and begining to play with front end.


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      06-01-2011 01:13 AM #65
      Got some questions for the 24valve community. Does anyone have pictures of those folks who have tapped and threaded -an fittings onto our stock thermostat housings? I also have the Integrated Engineering pieces that come off the heater hose fittings, and would like to change some of my coolant lines from OEM rubber to some -an black braided nylon hoses and fittings. I want to do this in one specific order from Summit, without the headache of sending back incorrect parts.
      The IE billet heater core fittings can be seen here:
      http://www.intengineering.com/Billet...14935-1-2.html
      These pieces have a threaded O-ring port on it, so you can run -an fittings. I am not sure the size of the -an fitting yet. Help me design my coolant pipe routing and order my hose and hose ends correctly.

      Thanks guys

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      06-01-2011 03:30 PM #66
      OK....to answer my own questions, and for those that want the AN lines in your bay rather than OEM rubber.....The IE heater core fittings can fit -10AN o ring fittings that can be had at summit, jegs, etc. In addition, the IE SAI block off plate can be made to fit AN by using a 3/8' NPT to -10AN fitting so I will be plumbing -10AN line all around the bay. I am still trying to find the thread that shows what size AN/thread can be fit into our thermostat housings. I am pretty sure I have seen folks just tap the plastic and thread AN fittings directly to the plastic. There is also Rictus' build, where silicone is being used to bridge the plastic to what looks like -10AN weldable fittings. Not sure which route to take for my build, but will be working on it as we go.

      For now, I have a large order from Summit ordered that will have all my fittings and hose described above. Now I just gotta find the time to get all these shiny parts home.


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      06-03-2011 12:08 AM #67
      Ok....seriously...who can give me an educated guess here...i have a mishimoto rad i want to weld AN fittings to. Can anyone out there, with knowledge of what works, please post up. What size are the normal OEM rubber hoses from radiator to T-stat housing? Whats the equation from inch or mm to AN?
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      06-04-2011 04:35 PM #68
      If you can't tell...i am trying to plan my coolant system and how it effects the turbo lines, t-stat housing, etc.

      I am curious if C2/UM or the Uni software still makes use of our secondary coolant pump. My plan is to plumb that coolant pump into the heater core and out to the turbo.
      You turbo guys with cars running, does your coolant pump run after the car shuts off like stock? I will be calling C2 monday to make sure of things...

      Anyone know the flow or direction of coolant in our motors?
      Please post up experiences, ideas , etc...

      Started to tap the t-stat housing today for NPT to AN adapters. Work continues tommorrow...thanks for looking

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      06-04-2011 09:10 PM #69
      How have folks deleted their overflow tanks in the past? Can anyone post up pics of swoops' bay with some items deleted?
      Any input is welcome here...

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      06-05-2011 03:06 AM #70
      For the bottle, I believe people put a filler neck on the top radiator hose. The rest of your questions.. sorry, have never ventured that far. Can't wait to see this thing done.
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