At What Port are VW's loaded?

[ThreadBomber]

Does anyone know what kind of terminology VW uses in the order system?

My car was originally slated to leave Emden on the 15th, and arrive into Halifax on the 25th. I checked the other day to see if it was built and left the factory, and the status is "in transit from factory" which they say means it's on the ship in the ocean somewhere. This doesn't make sense with the dates of this particular ship, but there is a ship coming to Halifax that left Emden on the 7th, but it's not supposed to be on that ship. If the car is sitting at Emden waiting, does the status normally say something like "awaiting at departure port?". If it basically says "in transit from factory" as soon as it leaves Wolfsburg I guess I can assume it will be on the second ship.

[joetron]

I got an updated list of ETA's for my car:

Order Entry -08/31/10
Marked Sold Order - 09/01/10
Vehicle Assigned - 0831/10
Release to Manuf. - 09/02/10
Release for Production -09/14/10
Factory Inspected - 10/07/10
Departure Port Arrived - 10/08/10
Ship Loaded - ETA 10/15/10
Port Arrived - ETA 10/29/10
Dealer Invoice -
Port Hold End -
Rel. to Carrier - 11/09/10
Rail Load -
Rail Unload -
Truck Load -
Dealer Delivered -ETA WEEK OF 11/15/10

So it looks like it will be coming on the precious ace which is in bremerhaven right now and due in emden on the 15th. woot

[TurboPaul@MillenniumVW]

Does anyone know what kind of terminology VW uses in the order system?

My car was originally slated to leave Emden on the 15th, and arrive into Halifax on the 25th. I checked the other day to see if it was built and left the factory, and the status is "in transit from factory" which they say means it's on the ship in the ocean somewhere. This doesn't make sense with the dates of this particular ship, but there is a ship coming to Halifax that left Emden on the 7th, but it's not supposed to be on that ship. If the car is sitting at Emden waiting, does the status normally say something like "awaiting at departure port?". If it basically says "in transit from factory" as soon as it leaves Wolfsburg I guess I can assume it will be on the second ship.

As soon as your car is built and factory inspected, the status changes to "Intransit from Factory". It stays that way from the factory to the port, to the ship, and until it is unloaded at the US port, when it changes to "Port Stock".

[ThreadBomber]

As soon as your car is built and factory inspected, the status changes to "Intransit from Factory". It stays that way from the factory to the port, to the ship, and until it is unloaded at the US port, when it changes to "Port Stock".

Ok, so it's safe to assume it will be on the Precious Ace leaving on the 15th, along with joetron's car .

[quailallstar]

As soon as your car is built and factory inspected, the status changes to "Intransit from Factory". It stays that way from the factory to the port, to the ship, and until it is unloaded at the US port, when it changes to "Port Stock".

Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?

[ThreadBomber]

Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?

Your car has got to be on the SL, I don't know what else it could be on. Maybe it's just a few days ahead of schedule, because that logistics sheet was made up in September it looks like. It also says US East is definately Brunswick.

Edit: Double check with your dealer, they will absolutely know which port the car comes in, they probably check stock there almost every day.

[sfpegasus]

The only thing I can think of is that it wasn't ship loaded in Emden. It's possible that it arrived in Emden on 9/29 and was then transported to Zeebrugge or Bremerhaven. Which goes back to the original question of this thread. Are we sure that 100% of VW cars are shipped from Emden? I've found two different Ro-Ro ports in Zeebrugge that list VW as references.

Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?

My research revealed all NAR Golf/GTI cars are loaded at Emden.

There are indeed other VW badges loaded at other ports in the area, but our cars are shiped via rail from Wolfsburg to Emden.

Here's another idea:

Go to your dealer (or call him/her) and check the window stickers of Golfs/GTIs for the port of entry. That should settle the "which port is it arriving at?" question, letting you track back to the proper ship.

[sfpegasus]

Another tip: Money talks when trying to get your car out of the port.

When my ship arrived, I asked Mico how to expedite the port process. Sold/Paid orders get some sort of priority at the port, which mine did. As soon as I wrote the check, Mico faxed the paperwork to the port.

My original ETAs:
Rel. to Carrier (Port) 12/21/2009
Dealer Delivered Week of 01/04/2010

I picked up the car on December 15.

[TurboPaul@MillenniumVW]

Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?

There is a website that the dealers can check for shipping info, but I have never known the password, or anybody else that had the password, and honestly just never cared, since I know where my cars are.

IIRC, you are in Florida, right? Your car will definitely go through Brunswick. Brunswick handles the southeastern states. Houston handles cars for the southwest and central states. We get ours from Rhode Island, and San Diego handles the west coast.

[Humpzilla]

There is a website that the dealers can check for shipping info, but I have never known the password, or anybody else that had the password, and honestly just never cared, since I know where my cars are.

IIRC, you are in Florida, right? Your car will definitely go through Brunswick. Brunswick handles the southeastern states. Houston handles cars for the southwest and central states. We get ours from Rhode Island, and San Diego handles the west coast.

Except for Washington apparently -- I just heard from my rep who confirmed that all cars bound for Seattle arrive at port in Houston. Kinda weird that it wouldn't be SD -- it must be cheaper to rail them up here from Houston somehow...

[sfpegasus]

Except for Washington apparently -- I just heard from my rep who confirmed that all cars bound for Seattle arrive at port in Houston. Kinda weird that it wouldn't be SD -- it must be cheaper to rail them up here from Houston somehow...

Rail is FAR less expensive than trucking from San Diego. A lot less damage, too.

[Humpzilla]

I know this is a bit off-topic, but I stumbled across this article about the salvage operation of the 'Cougar Ace' on Wired. Incredibly well written article...totally worth the read if you have a few minutes to kill.

Cougar Ace was the ship that ended up on its side with over 4,000 Mazdas on board. Yikes.

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...urrentPage=all

[quailallstar]

Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?

Your car has got to be on the SL, I don't know what else it could be on. Maybe it's just a few days ahead of schedule, because that logistics sheet was made up in September it looks like. It also says US East is definately Brunswick.

Edit: Double check with your dealer, they will absolutely know which port the car comes in, they probably check stock there almost every day.

I'll double check with my dealer.

My research revealed all NAR Golf/GTI cars are loaded at Emden.

There are indeed other VW badges loaded at other ports in the area, but our cars are shiped via rail from Wolfsburg to Emden.

Here's another idea:

Go to your dealer (or call him/her) and check the window stickers of Golfs/GTIs for the port of entry. That should settle the "which port is it arriving at?" question, letting you track back to the proper ship.

There is a website that the dealers can check for shipping info, but I have never known the password, or anybody else that had the password, and honestly just never cared, since I know where my cars are.

IIRC, you are in Florida, right? Your car will definitely go through Brunswick. Brunswick handles the southeastern states. Houston handles cars for the southwest and central states. We get ours from Rhode Island, and San Diego handles the west coast.

Paul, yes in Florida. Is this the website you were talking about!? http://www.volkswagen-logistik.de/en/services.html


and the quest continues!

[joetron]

I know this is a bit off-topic, but I stumbled across this article about the salvage operation of the 'Cougar Ace' on Wired. Incredibly well written article...totally worth the read if you have a few minutes to kill.

Cougar Ace was the ship that ended up on its side with over 4,000 Mazdas on board. Yikes.

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...urrentPage=all

Excellent reading material. I find it hard to believe that a car sitting at a 60 degree angle for so long could have issues down the road. They could've at least sold them at auction.

[joetron]

The Precious Ace is on her way to Emden

[TurboPaul@MillenniumVW]

I'll double check with my dealer.





Paul, yes in Florida. Is this the website you were talking about!? http://www.volkswagen-logistik.de/en/services.html


and the quest continues!

Nope, that's not it.

[quailallstar]

I'll double check with my dealer.





Paul, yes in Florida. Is this the website you were talking about!? http://www.volkswagen-logistik.de/en/services.html


and the quest continues!

Nope, that's not it.

It was worth a shot.

[quailallstar]

Site that talks more about Brunswick, GA RORO port

http://www.gaports.com/Facilities/Co...minalRoRo.aspx

Look at that B6 Passat rolling off the vessel




Overview
Terminal Owner/Operator
GEORGIA PORTS AUTHORITY

Distance From Sea Bouy
15 NAUTICAL MILES

Channel Width
400FT (121.9M)

Channel Project Depth
36FT (11M) AT MLW

Tidal Range
7.6 FT (2.3 M)

Turning Basin
South Brunswick River 1,200 FT (365.8M) in Diameter

Bridge Vertical Clearance
185FT (56.4M) AT MHW (HIGH LEVEL, FIXED-SPAN DESIGN)

Bridge Horizontal Clearance
UNRESTRICTED

Cargo Handled
RORO and PROJECT CARGO

Terminal Acreage
1,700-PLUS ACRES (688-PLUS HECTARES)

Autoport Facility (inclusive of 900 acres for future development excluding infrastructure)
1,268 ACRES (513.1 HECTARES)

Paved Open Storage
346 ACRES (140 HECTARES)

Berthing
Berth 1

Berth 2

Berth 3

Wharf Length
550 LINEAR FT (168M)

750 LINEAR FT (229M)

550 LINEAR FT (168M)

Total Berthing Length
1,215LINEAR FT (370M)

925 LINEAR FT (282M)

1,215 LINEAR FT (370M)

Apron Width
150 LINEAR FT (46M)

35 LINEAR FT (11M)

150 LINEAR FT (46M)

Depth Alongside
36FT AT MLW (11M)

40FT AT MLW(12M)

36FT AT MLW (11M)

Dock Height
14.5FT AT MLW (4.4M)

14.5FT AT MLW (4.4M)

14.5FT AT MLW (4.4M)

Lighted Docks & Roads
24 HOURS PER DAY



Expansion capabilities include the construction of up to 2 additional berths.


AUTO PROCESSORS
Amports Atlantic Vehicle Processors
BMW of North America, LLC International Auto Processing, Inc.


OCEAN CARRIERS
Hoegh Autoliners American Ro-Ro Carriers
K-Line America Inc. Wallenius Wilhelmsen Logistics
NYK Bulkship (USA), Inc. Mitsui Osk Bulk Shipping (USA), Inc.
Eukor

COLONEL'S ISLAND NEIGHORS

Allied Universal Atlantic Vehicle Processors, Inc. GPA Grain Distribution Facility
Amports International Auto Processing, Inc.
BMW of North America, LLC


AUTOMOBILE TRUCKING LINES

Alaplex Transportation, Inc. Allied Systems
ATC Logistics* Axis Group
Blue Thunder Auto Transport* Centurion Auto Transport
Crown Auto Transport & Logistics Company Dixon Auto Transportation
Fleet Car Carriers* Hansen & Atkins*
Intercity Lines Jack Key Auto Transport
Proficient Auto Transport, Inc. Sunbelt Auto Carriers, Inc.
Supreme Auto Transport, Inc. The Waggoners Trucking*
*Automobile trucking lines with offices on Colonel’s Island.


AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURERS WITH OFFICES ON COLONEL'S ISLAND

Glovis America, Inc. Jaguar Cars Land Rover North America
Porsche Cars of North America, Inc. SAAB Cars USA, Inc. Volkswagen of America, Inc.
BMW North America, LLC Volvo Cars of North America, Inc.

[ThreadBomber]

WooT Precious Ace in en route to Emden

Doh! Joe beat me to it

[Humpzilla]

WooT Precious Ace in en route to Emden

Doh! Joe beat me to it

Pshh, forget the Precious Ace....It's all about the Athens Highway!! Which...apparently is now anchored near Brixham...which as far as I can tell is a small fishing town. I don't think they are loading cars there. Maybe they are picking up some cheap hookers after their voyage across the Atlantic? HURRY UP AND GET ON TO EMDEN!!

[joetron]

hmm it looks like it's sailing right past emden and not turning into the port even though emden is listed as it's final destination. Unless there's a specific lane it has to follow to go into port. It looks like the cosmos venture is going to beat it to port.

[ThreadBomber]

hmm it looks like it's sailing right past emden and not turning into the port even though emden is listed as it's final destination. Unless there's a specific lane it has to follow to go into port. It looks like the cosmos venture is going to beat it to port.

Yeah looks like it's going somewhere else first?

This is hilarious, stalking a boat. I can't believe how many boats are in the North Sea, friggin crazy

[ThreadBomber]

[joetron]

I KNOW!! the only reason that i can think he/she is not turning in is to stagger the arrivals so he doesn't arrive at the same time as cosmos venture. That or the crew went to sleep.

[Humpzilla]

I KNOW!! the only reason that i can think he/she is not turning in is to stagger the arrivals so he doesn't arrive at the same time as cosmos venture. That or the crew went to sleep.

Ya, the Athens Highway had Emden listed as "next destination" -- and then it stopped in some stupid fishing town in England where it has been sitting all day. SHAKES FIST!

[ThreadBomber]

Well, I would imagine Emden has more than one dock for these things. It's not supposed to leave there until the 15th I think so there is a bit of time to go.

[joetron]

Well, I would imagine Emden has more than one dock for these things. It's not supposed to leave there until the 15th I think so there is a bit of time to go.

True, but there is only one narrow entrance into the port with all the docks and i'm sure only one ship can go through at a time, but right now it looks like it's not even turning into port.

[ThreadBomber]

Ya, the Athens Highway had Emden listed as "next destination" -- and then it stopped in some stupid fishing town in England where it has been sitting all day. SHAKES FIST!

Hookers

[Humpzilla]

Hookers

This.

[joetron]

lol it just turned around. I bet someone fell asleep.

[ThreadBomber]

lol it just turned around. I bet someone fell asleep.

No way man, it's following my red line. Either that or it's got a bone to pick with that little purple boat.

[Humpzilla]

No way man, it's following my red line. Either that or it's got a bone to pick with that little purple boat.

Seriously -- that little purple boat is probably pooping in its little purple boat pants right now. Those Ro/Ro ships are freakin' huge.

[joetron]

I did a little research and the reason it waited so long to turn around is because it's following a specific approach. It appears to be the Jade approach. I can't find a good online nautical chart to post.

[ThreadBomber]

HAH! It's following my red line perfectly, my plan is coming to fruition.

But, this red boat seems to be halfway through the Ace's hull at this point

Edit: I have to lol at "Borkum"

[ThreadBomber]

Sweet, so it is docked now. Now hopefully some crazy German doesn't drive my car into the ocean