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      10-12-2010 11:55 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by quailallstar View Post
      Well I've been tracking the wrong ship this whole time! My ETA dates have changed for the better. The car is already on a ship and half way to Brunswick, GA. I just need to figure out what damn ship its on...! Anyone willing to help please do! hehehe Need to find a list of ships coming into Brunswick around the ETA of the 19th.

      New dates provided by my dealer (Gunther) last night


      • Port Arrived 10/19/2010

      • Rel. to Carrier (Port) ETA 10/28/2010

      • Departure Port Arrived 09/29/2010

      • Ship Loaded ETA10/09/2010

      • Dealer Delivered ETA Week of 11/01/2010
      Well, if you're sure that it's going to Brunswick -- from what I can tell from the VW logistics info (http://www.pwl.de/static/schedules/vwl_hb.pdf) -- it looks like it must be on the Sagittarius Leader.

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      10-12-2010 11:59 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Humpzilla View Post
      Well, if you're sure that it's going to Brunswick -- from what I can tell from the VW logistics info (http://www.pwl.de/static/schedules/vwl_hb.pdf) -- it looks like it must be on the Sagittarius Leader.
      If it is indeed on the Sagittarius Leader -- it looks like it hasn't been picked up yet. She's still hanging out in the North Sea -- doesn't appear to have been to Emden yet.

      http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shi...MMSI=354410000

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      10-12-2010 12:12 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Humpzilla View Post
      Well, if you're sure that it's going to Brunswick -- from what I can tell from the VW logistics info (http://www.pwl.de/static/schedules/vwl_hb.pdf) -- it looks like it must be on the Sagittarius Leader.
      Quote Originally Posted by Humpzilla View Post
      If it is indeed on the Sagittarius Leader -- it looks like it hasn't been picked up yet. She's still hanging out in the North Sea -- doesn't appear to have been to Emden yet.

      http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shi...MMSI=354410000
      I highly doubt its the SL in which my car is coming on. The car was said to have been loaded Ship Loaded 10/09/2010 but thats impossible if its coming on the SL. That date give of the boarding was not an ETA and rather an actual date and the SL hasn't been to Emden (yet). Also said the car arrived into Emden port on 09/29/2010


      But then again I don't find anything else pointing to the dates given to me relating to the Volkswagen Logistics/Peter W. Lampke timetable. Urghhhhh confusion!

      Quote Originally Posted by Humpzilla View Post
      Well, if you're sure that it's going to Brunswick -- from what I can tell from the VW logistics info (http://www.pwl.de/static/schedules/vwl_hb.pdf) -- it looks like it must be on the Sagittarius Leader.
      UNLESS the car is coming into the other East coast port in Houston, TX? But its been my experience that vehicles coming in to the South East are processed through Brunswick, GA. You brought up a valid point as I noticed that the vessel Tianjin Highway was at port in Emden between October 7 & 8th and my car was ship loaded on the 9th.. Adding to the confusion and suspicion is that ships ETA into Texas is the 25th of October which is ALSO the same next update date associated with my commission number. Hope this all made sense.

      Tianjin Highway info and current location
      http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shi...mmsi=371559000

      VW needs to be like BMW where you can track all this stuff yourself
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      10-12-2010 12:42 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by quailallstar View Post
      Adding to the confusion and suspicion is that ships ETA into Texas is the 25th of October which is ALSO the same next update date associated with my commission number.
      When you can tie a few of these dates together, it starts to make sense that your port is Houston.
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      10-12-2010 12:45 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by quailallstar View Post
      I highly doubt its the SL in which my car is coming on. The car was said to have been loaded Ship Loaded 10/09/2010 but thats impossible if its coming on the SL. That date give of the boarding was not an ETA and rather an actual date and the SL hasn't been to Emden (yet). Also said the car arrived into Emden port on 09/29/2010


      But then again I don't find anything else pointing to the dates given to me relating to the Volkswagen Logistics/Peter W. Lampke timetable. Urghhhhh confusion!



      UNLESS the car is coming into the other East coast port in Houston, TX? But its been my experience that vehicles coming in to the South East are processed through Brunswick, GA. You brought up a valid point as I noticed that the vessel Tianjin Highway was at port in Emden between October 7 & 8th and my car was ship loaded on the 9th.. Adding to the confusion and suspicion is that ships ETA into Texas is the 25th of October which is ALSO the same next update date associated with my commission number. Hope this all made sense.

      Tianjin Highway info and current location
      http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shi...mmsi=371559000

      VW needs to be like BMW where you can track all this stuff yourself
      Haha, dude I hear you -- none of the dates on the timetable match up perfectly to what VW has told me either. It would be much easier if they tracking from VW told us specifically WHICH port our car would arrive at...but alas, they aren't that kind.

      I see your point on Sagittarius though -- if that tracking from VW is indeed correct and the "ship loaded" date was the date they said -- there's no way it could be Sagittarius Leader. But...on the other hand, if your car is coming into Brunswick -- SL is the only logical choice for it to be on. So, Who knows!!

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      10-12-2010 12:54 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Humpzilla View Post
      Well, if you're sure that it's going to Brunswick -- from what I can tell from the VW logistics info (http://www.pwl.de/static/schedules/vwl_hb.pdf) -- it looks like it must be on the Sagittarius Leader.
      Quote Originally Posted by sfpegasus View Post
      When you can tie a few of these dates together, it starts to make sense that your port is Houston.
      Quote Originally Posted by Humpzilla View Post
      Haha, dude I hear you -- none of the dates on the timetable match up perfectly to what VW has told me either. It would be much easier if they tracking from VW told us specifically WHICH port our car would arrive at...but alas, they aren't that kind.

      I see your point on Sagittarius though -- if that tracking from VW is indeed correct and the "ship loaded" date was the date they said -- there's no way it could be Sagittarius Leader. But...on the other hand, if your car is coming into Brunswick -- SL is the only logical choice for it to be on. So, Who knows!!
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      10-12-2010 01:51 PM #32
      It looks like the next ship on vw's logistics pdf that's going to be in emden is the cosmos venture. IT's still a few days out so i doubt it will make its oct 22nd eta into davisville. But i guess this looks to be the one that's carrying my gti. I wish my dealer was more responsive to my requests. I have to pull teeth to get anything out of him.

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      10-12-2010 01:56 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by quailallstar View Post
      My brain hurts! HAHA
      The only thing I can think of is that it wasn't ship loaded in Emden. It's possible that it arrived in Emden on 9/29 and was then transported to Zeebrugge or Bremerhaven. Which goes back to the original question of this thread. Are we sure that 100% of VW cars are shipped from Emden? I've found two different Ro-Ro ports in Zeebrugge that list VW as references.

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      10-12-2010 02:08 PM #34
      yeah i believe i asked that too earlier. People seem to think that they are only loaded at emden but there's several roro ports all around....

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      10-12-2010 02:41 PM #35
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      X2. I wish they would sticky the original tracking thread. Lot of great info. I'm sure there are more than a couple of members that need a way to pass the time waiting for their VW to arrive. I'll never get back the hours spent checking to see where my vehicle was, etc. I was about to give up when it looked like my order would never get accepted for build. The thread helped with the wait. 9700 miles later and no problems (so far).
      By the way, I was excited to follow yours and RogueTDIs vehicles as well as mine. I have spent a few hours down at the port in National City!
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      10-12-2010 02:51 PM #36
      Does anyone know what kind of terminology VW uses in the order system?

      My car was originally slated to leave Emden on the 15th, and arrive into Halifax on the 25th. I checked the other day to see if it was built and left the factory, and the status is "in transit from factory" which they say means it's on the ship in the ocean somewhere. This doesn't make sense with the dates of this particular ship, but there is a ship coming to Halifax that left Emden on the 7th, but it's not supposed to be on that ship. If the car is sitting at Emden waiting, does the status normally say something like "awaiting at departure port?". If it basically says "in transit from factory" as soon as it leaves Wolfsburg I guess I can assume it will be on the second ship.
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      10-12-2010 03:00 PM #37
      I got an updated list of ETA's for my car:

      Order Entry -08/31/10
      Marked Sold Order - 09/01/10
      Vehicle Assigned - 0831/10
      Release to Manuf. - 09/02/10
      Release for Production -09/14/10
      Factory Inspected - 10/07/10
      Departure Port Arrived - 10/08/10
      Ship Loaded - ETA 10/15/10
      Port Arrived - ETA 10/29/10
      Dealer Invoice -
      Port Hold End -
      Rel. to Carrier - 11/09/10
      Rail Load -
      Rail Unload -
      Truck Load -
      Dealer Delivered -ETA WEEK OF 11/15/10

      So it looks like it will be coming on the precious ace which is in bremerhaven right now and due in emden on the 15th. woot
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      10-12-2010 03:04 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by RedRabidRabbit View Post
      Does anyone know what kind of terminology VW uses in the order system?

      My car was originally slated to leave Emden on the 15th, and arrive into Halifax on the 25th. I checked the other day to see if it was built and left the factory, and the status is "in transit from factory" which they say means it's on the ship in the ocean somewhere. This doesn't make sense with the dates of this particular ship, but there is a ship coming to Halifax that left Emden on the 7th, but it's not supposed to be on that ship. If the car is sitting at Emden waiting, does the status normally say something like "awaiting at departure port?". If it basically says "in transit from factory" as soon as it leaves Wolfsburg I guess I can assume it will be on the second ship.
      As soon as your car is built and factory inspected, the status changes to "Intransit from Factory". It stays that way from the factory to the port, to the ship, and until it is unloaded at the US port, when it changes to "Port Stock".


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      10-12-2010 03:29 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboPaul@MillenniumVW View Post
      As soon as your car is built and factory inspected, the status changes to "Intransit from Factory". It stays that way from the factory to the port, to the ship, and until it is unloaded at the US port, when it changes to "Port Stock".

      Ok, so it's safe to assume it will be on the Precious Ace leaving on the 15th, along with joetron's car .
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      10-12-2010 03:34 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboPaul@MillenniumVW View Post
      As soon as your car is built and factory inspected, the status changes to "Intransit from Factory". It stays that way from the factory to the port, to the ship, and until it is unloaded at the US port, when it changes to "Port Stock".

      Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?
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      10-12-2010 03:46 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by quailallstar View Post
      Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?
      Your car has got to be on the SL, I don't know what else it could be on. Maybe it's just a few days ahead of schedule, because that logistics sheet was made up in September it looks like. It also says US East is definately Brunswick.

      Edit: Double check with your dealer, they will absolutely know which port the car comes in, they probably check stock there almost every day.
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      10-12-2010 03:59 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by MichaelGolfTDI View Post
      The only thing I can think of is that it wasn't ship loaded in Emden. It's possible that it arrived in Emden on 9/29 and was then transported to Zeebrugge or Bremerhaven. Which goes back to the original question of this thread. Are we sure that 100% of VW cars are shipped from Emden? I've found two different Ro-Ro ports in Zeebrugge that list VW as references.
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      Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?
      My research revealed all NAR Golf/GTI cars are loaded at Emden.

      There are indeed other VW badges loaded at other ports in the area, but our cars are shiped via rail from Wolfsburg to Emden.

      Here's another idea:

      Go to your dealer (or call him/her) and check the window stickers of Golfs/GTIs for the port of entry. That should settle the "which port is it arriving at?" question, letting you track back to the proper ship.
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      10-12-2010 04:20 PM #43
      Another tip: Money talks when trying to get your car out of the port.

      When my ship arrived, I asked Mico how to expedite the port process. Sold/Paid orders get some sort of priority at the port, which mine did. As soon as I wrote the check, Mico faxed the paperwork to the port.

      My original ETAs:
      Rel. to Carrier (Port) 12/21/2009
      Dealer Delivered Week of 01/04/2010

      I picked up the car on December 15.

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      10-12-2010 05:38 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by quailallstar View Post
      Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?
      There is a website that the dealers can check for shipping info, but I have never known the password, or anybody else that had the password, and honestly just never cared, since I know where my cars are.

      IIRC, you are in Florida, right? Your car will definitely go through Brunswick. Brunswick handles the southeastern states. Houston handles cars for the southwest and central states. We get ours from Rhode Island, and San Diego handles the west coast.


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      10-12-2010 06:09 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboPaul@MillenniumVW View Post
      There is a website that the dealers can check for shipping info, but I have never known the password, or anybody else that had the password, and honestly just never cared, since I know where my cars are.

      IIRC, you are in Florida, right? Your car will definitely go through Brunswick. Brunswick handles the southeastern states. Houston handles cars for the southwest and central states. We get ours from Rhode Island, and San Diego handles the west coast.

      Except for Washington apparently -- I just heard from my rep who confirmed that all cars bound for Seattle arrive at port in Houston. Kinda weird that it wouldn't be SD -- it must be cheaper to rail them up here from Houston somehow...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Humpzilla View Post
      Except for Washington apparently -- I just heard from my rep who confirmed that all cars bound for Seattle arrive at port in Houston. Kinda weird that it wouldn't be SD -- it must be cheaper to rail them up here from Houston somehow...
      Rail is FAR less expensive than trucking from San Diego. A lot less damage, too.
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      10-12-2010 07:02 PM #47
      I know this is a bit off-topic, but I stumbled across this article about the salvage operation of the 'Cougar Ace' on Wired. Incredibly well written article...totally worth the read if you have a few minutes to kill.

      Cougar Ace was the ship that ended up on its side with over 4,000 Mazdas on board. Yikes.

      http://www.wired.com/science/discove...urrentPage=all

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      10-12-2010 08:02 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by quailallstar View Post
      Paul any idea if any other ports besides Emden processes US bound Volkswagens? Also would the ordering dealer know which port the vehicle is coming in through on US soil?
      Quote Originally Posted by RedRabidRabbit View Post
      Your car has got to be on the SL, I don't know what else it could be on. Maybe it's just a few days ahead of schedule, because that logistics sheet was made up in September it looks like. It also says US East is definately Brunswick.

      Edit: Double check with your dealer, they will absolutely know which port the car comes in, they probably check stock there almost every day.
      I'll double check with my dealer.

      Quote Originally Posted by sfpegasus View Post
      My research revealed all NAR Golf/GTI cars are loaded at Emden.

      There are indeed other VW badges loaded at other ports in the area, but our cars are shiped via rail from Wolfsburg to Emden.

      Here's another idea:

      Go to your dealer (or call him/her) and check the window stickers of Golfs/GTIs for the port of entry. That should settle the "which port is it arriving at?" question, letting you track back to the proper ship.
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboPaul@MillenniumVW View Post
      There is a website that the dealers can check for shipping info, but I have never known the password, or anybody else that had the password, and honestly just never cared, since I know where my cars are.

      IIRC, you are in Florida, right? Your car will definitely go through Brunswick. Brunswick handles the southeastern states. Houston handles cars for the southwest and central states. We get ours from Rhode Island, and San Diego handles the west coast.

      Paul, yes in Florida. Is this the website you were talking about!? http://www.volkswagen-logistik.de/en/services.html


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      10-13-2010 03:25 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by Humpzilla View Post
      I know this is a bit off-topic, but I stumbled across this article about the salvage operation of the 'Cougar Ace' on Wired. Incredibly well written article...totally worth the read if you have a few minutes to kill.

      Cougar Ace was the ship that ended up on its side with over 4,000 Mazdas on board. Yikes.

      http://www.wired.com/science/discove...urrentPage=all
      Excellent reading material. I find it hard to believe that a car sitting at a 60 degree angle for so long could have issues down the road. They could've at least sold them at auction.

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      10-13-2010 09:35 AM #50
      The Precious Ace is on her way to Emden

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