Timeline (pic intensive)

**dub nutz** · 09-28-2012 09:28 AM

when ever relocating the battery to the rear, you should always run a ground cable from the back to front. grounding through the body works but is not the best way. the amp draw from the starter has a hard time passing through the sheet metal and spot welds. also make sure your engine to chassis grounds are clean metal and the ground on the seat belt should be to bare metal on the chassis, the threads for the bolt could be painted from the factory, this will cause a bad ground. good luck hope you can figure this out

**catalina2.o** · 09-28-2012 12:15 PM

the only differance from my car to pks car is i have an extra ground in my trunk so i have 2 grounds to the battery in the trunk but the car was starting and runing fine until it stalled at the red light which has me compluzzled.. now thew starter makes a loud screeching spinning sound.. gotta check it out after h2o

**87veedub** · 10-01-2012 05:52 PM

Well what's the verdict mane!?

**PKstrategy** · 10-01-2012 05:57 PM

The verdict is....unknown.

I decided not to take the car down (for obvious reasons)

Still had a blast at h20 and I'm remotivated to get things cracking.

I'm going to start at grounds, redo them, ground in better locations, add a ground wire like Bryan's setup, etc.

Sorry to all who were lookin for it and to those I spoke to, appreciate your understanding and advice, tips, etc.

**87veedub** · 10-01-2012 06:14 PM

I really think it's just a bad ground/something to do with your relocation as others said

**Insan3Vr6** · 10-01-2012 10:49 PM

Good finally talking to you in person PK. We will def get a photoshoot in when we get our cars buttoned up.

**Harris_Teeter** · 10-02-2012 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dubblovinboyy

PK i was curious about this too. i was driving my car for the first time after i did the clutch job and i put it in neutral and it died at the light. now when im driving i cant press over 3 grand or my car starts to break up and my cel starts to flash. then the power kicks in. Idk man its all werid but i want to know if it can be related to each other. Im also in the same boat as to wanting to know why it died cause from time to time my car wants to die when im driving it but never flly dies..

I could be wrong but for some reason, that sounds like the crank position sensor...I'm sure you didn't touch it during the clutch job, but I've had similar issues when my CPS got wet during a snow storm.

**PKstrategy** · 10-02-2012 01:28 PM

Nice meeting you too, Evan and hell yeah!
Word Ian, where is the CPS located?
also, guys, does it matter that my clutch switch isn't plugged in?
I don't think that will play into any of this.

**SirSpectre** · 10-02-2012 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by PKstrategy

Nice meeting you too, Evan and hell yeah!
Word Ian, where is the CPS located?
also, guys, does it matter that my clutch switch isn't plugged in?
I don't think that will play into any of this.

Is it not plugged in, or is it bypassed? If I remember, it wont even spin the starter if its not by passed or plugged in.

**PKstrategy** · 10-02-2012 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by SirSpectre

Is it not plugged in, or is it bypassed? If I remember, it wont even spin the starter if its not by passed or plugged in.

You're asking about the clutch switch right?
It's not plugged in.

But then how was I able to start and literally DRIVE the car without it?

**Harris_Teeter** · 10-02-2012 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by PKstrategy

Nice meeting you too, Evan and hell yeah!
Word Ian, where is the CPS located?
also, guys, does it matter that my clutch switch isn't plugged in?
I don't think that will play into any of this.

Right on the front of the block, and held in with one 5mm allen screw. It connects to a white plug iirc

**PKstrategy** · 10-02-2012 04:32 PM

ah yeah, that's def plugged in.
i don't suppose it could be plugged in, incorrectly?

**tesh0boy** · 10-02-2012 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by PKstrategy

The verdict is....unknown.

I decided not to take the car down (for obvious reasons)

Hate to hear it, but better to be safe than sorry.

Having car problems down there just ruins the whole weekend when your that far from home.

**PKstrategy** · 10-02-2012 04:58 PM

yeah man, it's true.
or worse off, on either the ride there or back.

I've come to terms with it all and I'm going to start with the basics and try to isolate the issue.

**MYGTI_MA** · 10-02-2012 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by PKstrategy

yeah man, it's true.
or worse off, on either the ride there or back.

I've come to terms with it all and I'm going to start with the basics and try to isolate the issue.

better to be safe man not worth killing a car to get to h20i

**catalina2.o** · 10-03-2012 04:10 PM

pk ive got an extra crank sensor laying around if u wanna try that ..

**PKstrategy** · 10-03-2012 04:15 PM

word man
and yeah Bryan, sure.
Send it on over B
I'll PayPal you for shipping or whatever.

**Mr.Bullet** · 10-03-2012 07:38 PM

Good seeing you in oc

**the mad conductor** · 10-03-2012 09:07 PM

God dam PK 36 pages..

Sell me some wheels for my corrado

**PKstrategy** · 10-04-2012 09:12 AM

Word, Leaston! I'll get those pics up soon.
Yeah Brendon, holla at me

**JASENR** · 10-04-2012 10:14 AM

I'm waiting.

**HandsomeDan** · 10-04-2012 10:22 AM

crush it.

**PKstrategy** · 10-04-2012 10:52 AM

word Jasen
shutup (Corey?) Gimme them Nothelles.

**HandsomeDan** · 10-04-2012 11:51 AM

who the **** is Corey?

**PKstrategy** · 10-04-2012 11:53 AM

eh, wrong person.
shutup handsomedan, and let me has them nothelles.

**HandsomeDan** · 10-04-2012 12:07 PM

They're yours for the right price.

**PKstrategy** · 10-04-2012 12:16 PM

let me get the bitch running solid and we'll talk.

**Insan3Vr6** · 10-04-2012 12:54 PM

If you get nothelles I got dibs on the Hocks

**PKstrategy** · 10-04-2012 01:00 PM

Which ones?

**Dubblovinboyy** · 10-04-2012 03:48 PM

i have an extra crank sensor if you still need that. let me know.

**PKstrategy** · 10-04-2012 03:58 PM

yeah man, drop by my crib or the meet tonight and i'll definitely try that out.

**Insan3Vr6** · 10-04-2012 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by PKstrategy

Which ones?

No wonder I can't ever find a set, you keep taking them!

Uhm. Whatever set you feel like parting with

**catalina2.o** · 10-05-2012 09:52 AM

evan you gotta lower it first

**PKstrategy** · 10-08-2012 08:29 AM

So I decided to move the battery up front to stock location just to test what the hell is happening.
This would take the distribution block and my "new" ground location in the trunk out of the equation.
Well, as soon as you go to start the key, it clicks and car doesn't crank, spin or anything.

With the battery being back up front and the distribution block out of the picture, what the hell can be causing a short?!

We decided to put the battery back in the trunk and even still, when you try to crank the car it just clicks once and you lose everything. If you take the terminal off the battery and reapply, sure, it's all back - gauge, lights, etc. But the car will not start, crank, spin or anything.

The stock wiring harness was untouched in terms of extending, etc.
I simply rewrapped it in grip tape and that's about it.
I tested the battery and its consistent at 12.5
We tested the connections from end point to end point and it stays at 12.5

some other info:
ECU was replaced and is running the older C2 chip
02 harnesses were extended (8 wires)
starter is brand new and was bench tested before installing
Battery is a brand new optima red top

The confusion is why did the starter at least spin before (1 week ago) and now, we don't get anything?
I'm betting on a short, but I don't know where the **** to start.

**catalina2.o** · 10-08-2012 09:16 AM

undo the grounds on the driver frame rail by the powersteering. unwrap the tape and make sure the wires didnt come loose from the butt connectors, maybe they came loose and you lost those grounds

VWVortex

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