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    Thread: A TCL First? '67 Rolls Royce project thread...

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      04-25-2011 04:45 PM #126
      another month, another update

      trans should be a couple weeks out now, most of the way reassembled and just waiting on a couple more odds and ends to get it buttoned up.

    2. 04-25-2011 04:50 PM #127
      I love it when this pops to the top of my subscribed threads.

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      04-25-2011 05:04 PM #128
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      another month, another update
      Another month requires more pics!

      What odds and ends are you waiting for? After watching too much Wheelers Dealers I'm convinced there is a specialty garage somewhere in England that makes OEM parts for anything!
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      i'd lock this thread but i have no clue how...

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      04-26-2011 02:10 AM #129
      Watching!

    5. 04-26-2011 06:30 AM #130
      Very cool project.

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      04-26-2011 01:49 PM #131
      Quote Originally Posted by KahviVW View Post
      Another month requires more pics!
      i agree! hah but its just been sitting waiting on parts to show up and on the transmission to get finished up...

      Quote Originally Posted by KahviVW View Post
      What odds and ends are you waiting for? After watching too much Wheelers Dealers I'm convinced there is a specialty garage somewhere in England that makes OEM parts for anything!
      still need to track down an intake hose bracket, intake hose, and the battery cover for the trunk. over the last month or so ive managed to get the proper washer bottle, washer motor, and bottle bracket. also got a whole shifter assembly so i can replace the cracked shifter handle that weve got, and a new rear mirror to replace one of the flaking ones weve got...

      next projects before the trans comes back are getting the bumpers all sorted out, hiding some of the wiring in the rear that the chrome rear bumper doesnt have provisions for, and touching up some of the paint up front behind the bumper.

      i might have time to wrap up the bumpers this weekend, but i need a few dry days to finish painting the brackets.

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      04-26-2011 06:58 PM #132
      Speaking of your car, here's my latest temptation to rejoin the fold:



      It's a 1966 Silver Shadow Coupe, James Young edition. Only 50 made, of those only 15 are LHD (the one pictured isn't, btw). I've only seen two of these advertised in the US, this one and a rust-bucket that sat on a Lousiiana lot for years. I like the MPW/Corniche, but really love these as they carry over the great lines of the Silver Shadow more faithfully. They didn't sell well because they were insanely expensive for the time - unlike Mulliner Park Ward, they had no relationship with Rolls-Royce and had to pay full retail for a Shadow then re-do the body as a coupe.

      Unfortunately for this one, some knucklehead decided to update it and add the later bumpers. Another wierd thing is, though you can't see this in the pics, the restorer didn't put back the side mirrors.
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      04-26-2011 07:24 PM #133
      Quote Originally Posted by epbrown View Post
      Speaking of your car, here's my latest temptation to rejoin the fold:



      It's a 1966 Silver Shadow Coupe, James Young edition. Only 50 made, of those only 15 are LHD (the one pictured isn't, btw). I've only seen two of these advertised in the US, this one and a rust-bucket that sat on a Lousiiana lot for years. I like the MPW/Corniche, but really love these as they carry over the great lines of the Silver Shadow more faithfully. They didn't sell well because they were insanely expensive for the time - unlike Mulliner Park Ward, they had no relationship with Rolls-Royce and had to pay full retail for a Shadow then re-do the body as a coupe.

      Unfortunately for this one, some knucklehead decided to update it and add the later bumpers. Another wierd thing is, though you can't see this in the pics, the restorer didn't put back the side mirrors.
      It also sits too low...great looking automobile nonetheless

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      04-26-2011 08:15 PM #134
      Quote Originally Posted by epbrown View Post
      Speaking of your car, here's my latest temptation to rejoin the fold:



      Unfortunately for this one, some knucklehead decided to update it and add the later bumpers. Another wierd thing is, though you can't see this in the pics, the restorer didn't put back the side mirrors.
      great looking car! crazy rare, wow...

      i truly cant stand the coupes with the later bumpers... the sedans im not quite as bothered by, but i think they look terrible on a coupe

      plenty of neat stuff for sale in the 25k-35k price range on RROC the last few months though if youre thinking about getting back into it

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      04-26-2011 09:29 PM #135
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      plenty of neat stuff for sale in the 25k-35k price range on RROC the last few months though if youre thinking about getting back into it
      Seeing yours pop up every now and again gets me thinking. I'm currently looking to sell the Solstice and I'd like to replace it with something vintage, but the top candidate is a series 2 Jaguar XKE. Thing is, that's a sports car and I've always been somewhat philosophically opposed to owning a vintage sports car, so I've found myself looking at Rollers and Bentleys as well. If a chrome bumper James Young coupe or Corniche coupe popped up in LHD...
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      04-27-2011 11:26 AM #136
      Quote Originally Posted by epbrown View Post
      If a chrome bumper James Young coupe or Corniche coupe popped up in LHD...

      are you still on RROC?
      i think theres a couple corniches in the classifieds...
      if i see anything ill pass on the info

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      04-27-2011 05:10 PM #137
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      are you still on RROC?
      i think theres a couple corniches in the classifieds...
      if i see anything ill pass on the info
      I'm still on RROC, but I haven't seen a LHD coupe posted this year. I was liking the blue 72 sedan in Indiana, but everyone talked the owner into keeping it!
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      04-27-2011 05:50 PM #138
      The 68 t type convertible that sold recently was awesome as well!

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      04-27-2011 05:57 PM #139
      From the guy selling the Camargue? Nice, yes, but RHD.
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      04-27-2011 08:19 PM #142
      Quote Originally Posted by epbrown View Post
      From the guy selling the Camargue? Nice, yes, but RHD.
      thats the one
      ah, forgot it was RHD. awesome color combo though!

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      04-27-2011 11:19 PM #143
      That coupe is amazing...
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      05-01-2011 01:58 PM #144
      Quote Originally Posted by epbrown View Post
      I'm still on RROC, but I haven't seen a LHD coupe posted this year. I was liking the blue 72 sedan in Indiana, but everyone talked the owner into keeping it!
      Follow-up that I thought might interest TCL - the seller of the 72 sedan posted his maintenance log, since this is one of those cars everyone squawks about running costs. Details below, but the big figures are:

      Total spent: $47,627.90, divided by 26 years it's cost him $1831.84/year to run a vintage Rolls-Royce, $1439/year without the repaint he did last year. Details below.

      Date Where Description Cost

      12/23/85 Valve Cover Gasket $216.00
      12/23/85 Fan Clutch $36.00
      12/23/85 Washer Pump $36.00
      1/20/86 Rebuild Compensator System $688.00
      5/14/86 Fuel Pump $331.00
      11/7/86 Bleed brake system $1,330.00
      10/16/89 Spark Plugs $80.00
      10/16/89 Oil Change $18.00
      5/16/90 Rebuild Brake Servos $1,703.00
      7/9/90 Tie Rod Ball Joints $580.00
      1/29/91 Rebuild Front Brakes $1,419.00
      6/1/91 Hubcaps $565.00
      6/7/91 Front and Rear Shock Bushings $32.00
      6/7/91 Plug Wires $363.00
      6/7/91 Torque Arm Mounts $43.00
      3/14/92 Rear axle rebuild $500.00
      8/18/92 Valve Cover Gasket $300.00
      8/18/92 Overhaul Accumulator Valves $600.00
      8/18/92 Door locks LF RF LR $270.00
      9/4/93 LF Window Regulator replacement $800.00
      4/22/94 AC Compressor, dryer, hose, belts replace $1,683.00
      4/24/96 Windshield seal $200.00
      4/24/96 RR#2 Brake pump push rod $150.00
      12/17/96 Heater hose replacement $350.00
      12/17/96 Brake system flush $100.00
      7/17/97 Overhaul LR Caliper, brake hoses $998.00
      8/1/97 Replace high pressure steering hose $300.00
      7/27/01 Spark Plugs $80.00
      7/27/01 Points and Condensor $100.00
      7/30/01 Replace starter motor $662.00
      1/2/02 Replace high pressure steering hose $200.00
      1/2/02 Replace wiper motor assembly $650.00
      1/2/02 Replace wiper transmission $600.00
      1/2/02 Spark Plugs $80.00
      11/22/02 Overhaul water pump $841.00
      11/22/02 Replace thermostat $177.00
      11/22/02 Replace front motor mount $168.00
      11/22/02 Replace rear motor mount $350.00
      11/22/02 Replace trunk seal $450.00
      1/10/03 Replace Radiator core $925.00
      1/10/03 Overhaul carburettors $425.00
      2/2/05 Replace LR bearings $1,002.00
      5/26/05 Clean and adjust carburettors $275.00
      1/6/06 Replace RF window lift $290.00
      1/6/06 Bleed hydraulic system $122.90
      2/15/06 Replace trailing arm hoses $424.00
      3/8/06 Replace viscous fan coupling $554.00
      5/10/06 Replace front right door seal $369.00
      4/20/07 Replace driver door seal $449.00
      4/20/07 Replace fuel gauge level unit $641.00
      4/20/07 Replace power antenna $365.00
      7/8/08 Replace battery $163.00
      7/8/08 Replace rocker cover gaskets $1,129.00
      7/8/08 Replace oil pressure transducer switch $121.00
      7/8/08 Repair coolant header tank $321.00
      7/8/08 Replace both front shock absorbers $1,620.00
      7/14/08 Replace high pressure steering hose $513.00
      7/14/08 Recharge AC $100.00
      11/11/08 Bleed hydraulic system $250.00
      11/11/08 Replace #1 Accumulator High Pressure Hose $483.00
      11/11/08 Replace AC Compressor $996.00
      11/11/08 Replace AC Dryer / Accumulator $231.00
      11/11/08 Replace ignition condenser $140.00
      3/4/09 Replace AC Compressor $750.00
      3/4/09 Replace Front stabilizer bushings $307.00
      3/4/09 Repair fuel sending unit $140.00
      3/4/09 Replace both Front Compliance Bushings $1,410.00
      3/4/09 Replace LR Bearing pin and washers $1,032.00
      3/4/09 Replace steering coupling boot $53.00
      6/9/09 Replace Ignition coil ballast $180.00
      6/9/09 Replace fuel pump $989.00
      6/9/09 O ring for brake reservoir $193.00
      10/15/10 Replace windshield $750.00
      10/15/10 Replace back window seal $95.00
      10/15/10 Replace all door seals $350.00
      10/15/10 Replace hood pads $580.00
      10/15/10 Respray $10,191.00
      4/2/11 Electronic Ignition $240.00
      4/2/11 Spark Plugs $90.00
      4/2/11 Replace thermostat $95.00
      4/2/11 Replace hot water tap $75.00
      4/2/11 fan motor $150.00
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      05-01-2011 02:31 PM #145
      Good lord some of those costs are extremely high. tie rod ball joints $580?! Door seal $350-450?!?!?!
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      05-01-2011 02:37 PM #146
      Lot of things cheaper than I thought.

      The brake work is ridiculous though. Is the brake system tied into something else?

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      05-01-2011 03:34 PM #147
      Quote Originally Posted by PoorHouse View Post
      Lot of things cheaper than I thought.

      The brake work is ridiculous though. Is the brake system tied into something else?
      The brakes are tied into the high pressure hydraulics that handle load/ride leveling. Also the fronts have TWO calipers per wheel.
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      05-01-2011 05:01 PM #148
      Looking at those prices makes me wonder if service for a Turbo RL would be similar in cost. Tgose seem to be 75-80% depreciated and although they lack the classic beauty of your 67 they still have quite a bit of presence.

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      05-01-2011 05:10 PM #149
      Quote Originally Posted by A.Wilder View Post
      Good lord some of those costs are extremely high. tie rod ball joints $580?! Door seal $350-450?!?!?!
      Yet the overall costs are quite reasonable. You also have the fact that you're driving a Rolls.
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      05-01-2011 06:02 PM #150
      Quote Originally Posted by A.Wilder View Post
      Good lord some of those costs are extremely high. tie rod ball joints $580?! Door seal $350-450?!?!?!
      Are those costs with labor, or just the price of the parts? Were these parts purchased at list price from a dealer, or from aftermarket suppliers, or with a discount.

      Also, the fan clutch was only $38? The one for my 5.2 Jeep cost twice that.
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