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      04-15-2012 10:33 PM #456
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      I keep a can of PB Blaster at all times just case I get in a pinch, but if this stuff is better - awesome!
      PB Blaster is OK, but in comparison it falls well short. I call it "peanut butter blaster". At least there's oil in peanut butter, as WD-40 is like salt water when held up to Break Free.
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      Whoah. It looks as if you could put a carb adapter and Holley carb on it!

      No, I wouldn't either, but it sure looks like an easy mod.
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      04-15-2012 10:55 PM #458
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Whoah. It looks as if you could put a carb adapter and Holley carb on it!

      No, I wouldn't either, but it sure looks like an easy mod.
      and you'd get rid of those horrid SUs

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      04-15-2012 10:58 PM #459
      Quote Originally Posted by Chapel View Post
      and you'd get rid of those horrid SUs
      Yeah, but batting that intake charge around has to make it a lot quieter, besides the fact that a 14" paper element Edelbrock chrome air filter would look, ahem, "out of place".
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      04-15-2012 11:24 PM #460
      I'm not sure what shape your SUs are in, but just in case they're not, here is a good resource:

      http://www.sucarburetors.com/index.html

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      04-15-2012 11:44 PM #461
      we have a couple of these at my work at the moment. neat cars and you've done a helluva job with the build..well done sir!
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      04-16-2012 11:13 AM #462
      Quote Originally Posted by Lethbridge_man View Post
      I'm not sure what shape your SUs are in, but just in case they're not, here is a good resource:

      http://www.sucarburetors.com/index.html
      looks like those guys are somewhat local too, very nice!

      will probably have a talk with our buddy in canada on what to do with the SUs before putting them back in... access is definitely easier with the manifold off so we may as well take advantage of that.

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      04-16-2012 11:18 AM #463
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      looks like those guys are somewhat local too, very nice!

      will probably have a talk with our buddy in canada on what to do with the SUs before putting them back in... access is definitely easier with the manifold off so we may as well take advantage of that.
      There's also Joe Curto in New York who is THE s.u. authority. He's a good guy (a little gruff on the phone, but he gets hundreds of calls a day so he's usually in a rush) and he offers everything from parts to full exchange/rebuilds and restoration services. 718-762-7878... number is committed to memory!

      Also, Chapel - those SU's aren't awful at all! I figured you would know better!

      Zenith-Strombergs are awful. Rochester Quadrajets are awful. S.U.'s are actually quite sophisticated and well refined... they're just very often misunderstood.
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      04-16-2012 11:24 AM #464
      Quote Originally Posted by geofftii2002 View Post
      Zenith-Strombergs are awful. Rochester Quadrajets are awful. S.U.'s are actually quite sophisticated and well refined... they're just very often misunderstood.
      Quadrajet carbs are misunderstood as well. I have talked with guys who are really good with them and yeah, they're finicky if you don't know them well, but the right guy with a good selection of metering rods should be able to make them run extremely well. Of course, they got their bad rep in the smog era, so there's that to compound the issue.
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      04-16-2012 12:56 PM #465
      the real problem is the carbs in general



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      04-16-2012 01:02 PM #466
      Quote Originally Posted by Dobes View Post
      A+ for documentation. I love following threads like this, wish more people took the time to entertain me
      thanks, thats why im here...


      and i think its interesting to see as its not a car you see people working on all that often, outside of the closed club forums anyway

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      04-16-2012 01:05 PM #467
      Quote Originally Posted by geofftii2002 View Post
      Also, Chapel - those SU's aren't awful at all! I figured you would know better!
      I hate SUs... they make little to no sense to me whatsoever... therefore... they suck

      they're fine if you live in a country where you have people who can work on them...

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      04-16-2012 01:38 PM #468
      Quote Originally Posted by Chapel View Post
      I hate SUs... they make little to no sense to me whatsoever... therefore... they suck

      they're fine if you live in a country where you have people who can work on them...
      I suppose you hate Strombergs too?

      Don't buy a Brit car (or an old Volvo)...just sayin'.

      Plenty of people know how to work on SU's/Strombergs in the US.

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      04-16-2012 01:54 PM #469
      Quote Originally Posted by Chapel View Post
      I hate SUs... they make little to no sense to me whatsoever... therefore... they suck

      they're fine if you live in a country where you have people who can work on them...
      Man, you're in New England! There are literally dozens of old men with gray beards, flat caps and Union Jack sweaters who know how to work on SU's.
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      04-16-2012 03:11 PM #470
      Wow, TCL has to be honored to witness such car..
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      Around here they all "upgraded" to lifted pick-ups with cheesy wheels and a sticker bomb of energy drinks and fox racing. The highest mileage early 2000's truck they can buy, cheapest lift that makes it the tallest, clear or tinted tails, drop in HIDs, tinted windows, accent painted everything, stick on chrome, rebel flags (wtf?).

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      Quote Originally Posted by tiopedro View Post
      Wow, TCL has to be honored to witness such car..

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      04-16-2012 04:16 PM #472
      Quote Originally Posted by Lethbridge_man View Post
      I'm not sure what shape your SUs are in, but just in case they're not, here is a good resource:

      http://www.sucarburetors.com/index.html
      Nice. These are pretty.

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      04-16-2012 05:02 PM #473
      Steampunk carbs?
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      04-16-2012 05:26 PM #474
      Quote Originally Posted by geofftii2002 View Post
      Man, you're in New England! There are literally dozens of old men with gray beards, flat caps and Union Jack sweaters who know how to work on SU's.
      I know, I know... I'm more of a Weber DCOE or DellOrto DHLA man myself.

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      04-17-2012 02:44 AM #475
      some more shots from tonight...
      front brake pump is MIA because its soaking in penetrating oil



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      04-17-2012 05:47 AM #476
      I have to ask. Are you post processing your photos, they are beautiful.

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      04-17-2012 07:17 AM #477
      Quote Originally Posted by mfumbesi View Post
      I have to ask. Are you post processing your photos, they are beautiful.
      Sort of, he dips them all through Break Free before posting them.

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      04-17-2012 07:35 AM #478
      Quote Originally Posted by Chapel View Post
      I hate SUs... they make little to no sense to me whatsoever... therefore... they suck

      they're fine if you live in a country where you have people who can work on them...
      SUs are fantastic carbs. They sell adjust to changes in, well, everything. That and theyre simple to work on with parts readily available.

      The only thing that they lack over a Weber is an accelerator pump circuit but that isnt necessary in quite a few situations.

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      04-17-2012 08:35 AM #479
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      some more shots from tonight...
      front brake pump is MIA because its soaking in penetrating oil



      And the wonderful thing about that is Rolls Royce sells you a "kit" to rebuild those... with each o-ring, washer and tidbit priced individually!
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      04-17-2012 10:00 AM #480
      Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
      Sort of, he dips them all through Break Free before posting them.
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      04-17-2012 10:16 AM #481
      Quote Originally Posted by Arsigi View Post
      Steampunk carbs?
      Hmmmmm, kinda.

      I suppose if you're going for a steampunk vehicle powered by gas, then these are the carbs for you!
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      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      front brake pump is MIA because its soaking in penetrating oil
      What kind?
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      04-17-2012 10:59 AM #483
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      What kind?
      KYB probably
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      Around here they all "upgraded" to lifted pick-ups with cheesy wheels and a sticker bomb of energy drinks and fox racing. The highest mileage early 2000's truck they can buy, cheapest lift that makes it the tallest, clear or tinted tails, drop in HIDs, tinted windows, accent painted everything, stick on chrome, rebel flags (wtf?).

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      04-17-2012 11:30 AM #484
      Quote Originally Posted by mfumbesi View Post
      I have to ask. Are you post processing your photos, they are beautiful.
      not really, a crop and sometimes some color shift... the lighting in my shop sometimes confuses the white balance
      thanks though


      Quote Originally Posted by geofftii2002 View Post
      And the wonderful thing about that is Rolls Royce sells you a "kit" to rebuild those... with each o-ring, washer and tidbit priced individually!
      indeed. ive got the pump rebuild stuff already but will be shipping them off to canada this afternoon to get redone. i spent way too much time last night trying to crack the top half loose on both pumps with no luck that i think ill let someone else worry about it. the price is right too
      will be ordering new flame trap parts this morning, those orings are toast too... if the orings didnt need doing id probably try to clean the internals, but it sounds like the rebuild parts are cheap so i wont bother trying to refurbish anything.

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      04-17-2012 12:17 PM #485
      Quote Originally Posted by tiopedro View Post
      KYB probably
      Do you mean "Kentucky Jelly"?

      I was actually referring to the "Break Free" conversation from earlier in the thread.

      KYB is a Japanese brand that makes suspension parts.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Do you mean "Kentucky Jelly"?

      I was actually referring to the "Break Free" conversation from earlier in the thread.

      KYB is a Japanese brand that makes suspension parts.
      sorry..

      I meant KY warming oil!
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      Around here they all "upgraded" to lifted pick-ups with cheesy wheels and a sticker bomb of energy drinks and fox racing. The highest mileage early 2000's truck they can buy, cheapest lift that makes it the tallest, clear or tinted tails, drop in HIDs, tinted windows, accent painted everything, stick on chrome, rebel flags (wtf?).

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      Quote Originally Posted by tiopedro View Post
      sorry..

      I meant KY warming oil!


      i saw KYB and thought "that doesnt look right"...

    33. 04-17-2012 02:55 PM #488
      Man. What an awesome car! What I'd give to own even HALF of a car like that... oh wait...

      I'm getting the full RR owner experience of check writing while someone else works on it - thankfully though without the full RR shop price tag

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      Quote Originally Posted by tiopedro View Post
      sorry..

      I meant KY warming oil!
      'Sokay,
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      04-17-2012 03:14 PM #490
      When I first started as a tech, these cars are what I worked on. I will always remember wrenching/rebuilding these machines. They provided a ton of learning experiences, headaches, and fun. I worked on prewar cars all the way up to the first BMW partnered Silver Seraphs. I helped restore a Shadow as one of my first projects. If I can offer any help don't hesitate to ask, although you seem to have things handled. Good luck!

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