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    Thread: A TCL First? '67 Rolls Royce project thread...

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      03-28-2012 01:19 PM #426
      quick update, no pics, but we fired it up last night after getting the last hard and soft line in.


      everything connected to the rear accumulator bled fine, we can get clean fluid through there - this is progress! - we now have 1/2 of the front brakes working, along with everything out back!


      still has issues feeding fluid to the front accumulator though, same as before. noodling through that with the RROC guys at the moment, and we'll see what the next step is.
      if it means pulling the pump then so be it, but im not totally convinced yet that thats the issue - pump doesnt make noise and i can feel the feed line pulsing like the pump is doing something... we'll see!


      will have more info later

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      03-30-2012 02:06 PM #427
      looks like we're in for pulling the pumps. while ive got the upper intake off im going to find a cleaner looking used upper manifold to replace our pitted one, and of course reseal both pumps.


      should be some pretty good carnage shots of the engine torn apart once this gets under way.

      just ordered the rebuild bits and intake gaskets today along with the pump tool, so probably not starting until late next week when all the parts show up, and i can confirm our buddy in canada has a clean intake manifold for me to buy.


      stay tuned!

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      03-30-2012 02:10 PM #428
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      looks like we're in for pulling the pumps. while ive got the upper intake off im going to find a cleaner looking used upper manifold to replace our pitted one, and of course reseal both pumps.
      Bad news.

      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      i can confirm our buddy in canada has a clean intake manifold for me to buy.
      Good news!

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      stay tuned!
      I think it's safe to say I'm in this one for the long haul.
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      03-30-2012 02:20 PM #429
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Bad news.
      not nearly as bad as i was expecting... though certainly a full day or so worth of wrench time.

      (about 4 pages in)
      http://www.rrbew.co.uk/Pdfs/T044a.pdf

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      03-30-2012 02:23 PM #430
      Any chance of a shot underneath to see the packaging of the 28 gal. fuel tank.

      No rush, but I'd like to see the engineering behind fitting that.
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      03-30-2012 03:56 PM #431
      Quote Originally Posted by Accidental L8 apex View Post
      No rush, but I'd like to see the engineering behind fitting that.
      really nothing to it to be honest, the trunk is nearly the size of a studio apartment though not very tall. this allowed them to build a pretty tall gas tank because of how high up the trunk floor is, and the whole thing fits behind the rear diff/axle, and to the side of the spare tire thats mounted underneath the car behind the axle as well.

      its just a big metal box with rounded off edges... nothing too wild

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      04-04-2012 03:40 PM #432
      brake pump rebuild parts should be here shortly...
      stay tuned for some torn-down pics from this weekend

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      04-04-2012 04:08 PM #433
      Can't wait to see more...unique...British engineering solutions.

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      04-10-2012 02:11 AM #434
      Quote Originally Posted by Numbersix View Post
      Can't wait to see more...unique...British engineering solutions.
      indeed


      didnt have a chance this weekend to get anything done on the car (spring riding beckons!) but should be plugging away this week...

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      04-10-2012 09:30 AM #435
      Its interesting reading that .pdf and seeing the pictures... and identifying the # of GM-procured parts under the hood!

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      04-10-2012 09:36 AM #436
      Great thread is great!

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      04-10-2012 10:14 AM #437
      Quote Originally Posted by Dawg Dee-Lux View Post
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      yup, i know.

      people keep correcting me but spirit of ecstasy sounds so uptight besides, "the flying lady" is the name of the RROC magazine, and it has a much less pretenious ring to it


      and yeah there are a few domestic parts under the hood. the a/c compressor is the big obvious one, as well as the power steering pump

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      04-10-2012 10:27 AM #438
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      and yeah there are a few domestic parts under the hood. the a/c compressor is the big obvious one, as well as the power steering pump
      And that intake manifold looks very GM-ish -- even though I know it's not.

    14. 04-10-2012 12:01 PM #439
      Quote Originally Posted by WRXGuy View Post
      And that intake manifold looks very GM-ish -- even though I know it's not.
      The 6.75L V-8 was derived from a GM unit if I recall.
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      04-10-2012 12:50 PM #440
      Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain EX View Post
      The 6.75L V-8 was derived from a GM unit if I recall.
      ours is the earlier 6.25l, which lead to the 6.75l... as i recall it was developed sometime in the 50s. none of the history stuff ive read on RR mentioned anything about GM engine work, and i wasnt aware of gm having aluminum v8s back then, but im not really up on my domestic stuff.

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      04-10-2012 06:31 PM #441
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      ours is the earlier 6.25l, which lead to the 6.75l... as i recall it was developed sometime in the 50s. none of the history stuff ive read on RR mentioned anything about GM engine work, and i wasnt aware of gm having aluminum v8s back then, but im not really up on my domestic stuff.
      He may be thinking of the transmission, which is GM. The engine is all Rolls-Royce - they spent about a decade developing it and they never had the money to develop another, so that engine pretty much powered the range until BMW and VW bought them 50 years later.
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      04-10-2012 06:40 PM #442
      yup, and i think the trans stuff was covered in more detail earlier in the thread

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      04-12-2012 12:12 AM #443
      just popped the front brake pump off tonight and had a look around. looks like our front brake pump pushrod isnt moving. pulled a little bit and couldnt get it out, but waiting on RROC confirmation on the proper removal method - nothing in the shop manual on this topic. regardless it needs to come out for inspection/replacement.


      pictures to come

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      04-12-2012 12:16 AM #444
      I like this thread.

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      04-13-2012 05:09 PM #445
      just confirmed via RROC that the front pushrod is stuck roughly in the full up position (~1/2" sticking up above the bottom of the pump cavity)... possibly explaining why nothing was making weird noises, as its likely that the cam lobe entirely misses the pushrod at this point.
      the spring pressure on the pumps is really low, and is the only thing that forces the pushrod back down (aside from gravity) so it could have fused itself in there from sitting parked too long - there was some evidence of moisture underneath the pump so i think this is the theory ill go with for now...


      for kicks heres the cutaway view of the whole mess from the workshop manual. cutaway is drawn with the pushrod in the fully down position.



      plan for this weekend is to tear the upper intake manifold off in prep for arrival of the new one, and see what i can do about unsticking/removing the front pushrod. hoping to pick up a new intake manifold next week/weekend, and possibly another pushrod if this one ends up being ruined in the removal process.
      will also refurb the pumps after the intake manifold is off.

      should make for some nice pictures

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      04-13-2012 05:16 PM #446
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      and see what i can do about unsticking/removing the front pushrod.


      You're welcome.

      This stuff seems like it's made by God Himself.

      Break Free, after soaking for 3 days, got a broken bolt to come out with fingers after vibrating loose trying to drill it out. It was literally spinning after drilling for a few seconds. It's just that good.
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      04-13-2012 05:17 PM #447
      Ah, old project cars. Fix one thing and then identify the next point of failure.

      Kind of like old houses, come to think of it.

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      04-13-2012 05:28 PM #448
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post

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      Good to know. Looks like Ace carries it
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      04-13-2012 05:30 PM #449
      Quote Originally Posted by Numbersix View Post
      Ah, old project cars. Fix one thing and then identify the next point of failure.
      it happens
      seems most of these issues are from sitting too long.


      ill see what i can do with some break-loose type fluids
      the RROC guys seem real keen on a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF, but i might just try some kryoil and a few taps with a hammer to see what itll take... ive got lots of kryoil around hah


      Quote Originally Posted by Albeezy36 View Post
      Good to know. Looks like Ace carries it
      ooh, there is an ace near my house though... hmmm

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      04-13-2012 05:31 PM #450
      Quote Originally Posted by Albeezy36 View Post
      Good to know. Looks like Ace carries it
      Awesome! I didn't know that.

      It's absolutely the best stuff I've ever seen and I've tinkered a lot on 40+ year old cars.
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