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    1. Member tcslol's Avatar
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      11-17-2010 01:22 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by a2a4raddo View Post
      except its older (less reliable), not as practical, looks dated next to a Ti, & has an inferior front suspension. The 318Ti may be heavier...but i'd much rather have that then an E30.
      e30s are better built than e36s.
      my guess is there's more interior space in the e30.
      looks are subjective.. the e30 looks way better than the e36. The e30 is nearly classic, it's the e36 that looks dated.
      the front suspension differences are minor. even the latest BMWs have the same basic front suspension design.

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      11-17-2010 01:26 PM #52
      id do it, but just because i always found them to be amazing/quirky looking. my freind bought one for himself, he decided it was way to slow to he gave it to his wife to drive. Id buy a swapped one in a heartbeat.
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      11-17-2010 02:00 PM #53
      I would. I'm not a fan of the 5 and 6-Series of that era - they feel like heavy tanks to me. (The 635 is a sexy looking car, but meh to me to drive.) I prefer the lighter feel of the 318ti.

      I test drove a used Club Sport back in the day and really enjoyed it - reminded me of my Infiniti G20t, another torqueless wonder that felt nimble and liked to oversteer with dropping the throttle.

      But after you mentioned the 528it with a stick - yeah, I'd get that. The E39 is simply sweet. I still somewhat regret not trading-in my Passat wagon on one...

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      11-17-2010 02:37 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Jrod511 View Post
      I've got an itch to find a really clean BMW 318ti and I don't know why. I've driven plenty of E36 318's and except for feeling smooth they are endlessly gutless and buzzy. There's something about a cheap BMW without all the doodads that appeals to me a I suppose.....but enough to sell an E24 635CSi for one?

      Someone snap me out of this....


      Maybe not a good trade to get you out of a shark, but how about these 6 words:

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      11-17-2010 02:49 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by E30Cab View Post
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    6. 11-17-2010 02:50 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by a2a4raddo View Post
      i tried finding one for months. A clean 318Ti with m-tech and low mileage is not an easy car to find.
      I looked at 318Ti's and could not find one that I wanted. They all either had automatics or California roof options.

    7. 11-17-2010 02:58 PM #57
      I've always like these little cars and had the money on hand to buy a mint 98 sports model 2 years ago with only 48K miles for $4k. The seller was leaving the country and wanted to get rid of quick, but 20 minutes before I got to where the car was someone had given the seller $4500 for it. Needless t say I was pissed. I was planing to keep it stock for a while and then do an engine swap down the line.

      I haven't seen another one even close to that condition ever since.

    8. 11-17-2010 03:43 PM #58
      Ti's are a lot like M42 318 E30's. They were the entry level Bimmer typically used and abused by their first few owners. Nice ones are out there you just have to be patient, it took me two years to find my 91.

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      11-17-2010 03:49 PM #59
      The prices and selection of these cars on the used market turn me off. I know they're old cars now, but it seems like there's no such thing as a non-M E36 these days with less than 150,000 miles, and they don't take the age well. For what people ask for them, you can get a faster, better-equipped(!) 240SX for less (even including the "drift tax").
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      11-17-2010 03:50 PM #60
      My buddy put an M3 motor, tranny, suspension and brakes in his ti. It never ran right, and cost generally a ton of money.

      When I drove it, though, it had torque everywhere. I personally like a quirky bodystyle. I find it interesting that E30 318is's are generally praised and the 318ti is looked down upon. Are they that much porkier?

    11. 11-17-2010 05:47 PM #61
      A lot of you guys are saying just fix up the 635. On one hand, yes, the car would bring more money that way. But where do you start and where do you end? I've cleaned the car up a great deal, replaced some nickle and dime stuff, and spent a good deal of time just getting the rest to work right.

      What would it cost to make this a $6000 car? $1500 I bet and some time. So, as it sits, I'm willing to take less than $4000 because I just don't have the time and space required to do what it would take to make the car perfect. How much do you fix? The dents? Start chasing every little thing? Each time you're done just $100 more and it'll be that much nicer...

      It seems like I always have a Miata and always have a semi-powerful, semi-comfortable sports coupe...944, 300ZX, Prelude, 635...but I never quite find what it is that tickles my man bits in a soothing and gentle way. I haven't stopped searching for a 5 speed 5 Series wagon; just adding the 318ti to the list.

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      11-17-2010 05:50 PM #62
      too lazy to read all this, but just thought I'd mention:
      the E36 compact shares many things with the Z3...
      it's basically a Z3 Coupe in terms of suspension layout. However the 318ti has more room inside.

      Great cars though. E36 front suspension coupled with E30 rear suspension. It's a win-win

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      11-17-2010 05:53 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by Chapel View Post
      Great cars though. E36 front suspension coupled with E30 rear suspension. It's a win-win
      See, I don't see this as a 'win-win'.

      The E30 rear suspension is just trickier to handle if you do something ill-advised, like lifting off mid-corner.

    14. 11-17-2010 05:59 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by Numbersix View Post
      See, I don't see this as a 'win-win'.

      The E30 rear suspension is just trickier to handle if you do something ill-advised, like lifting off mid-corner.
      I'm not tracking the car, and, really, I drive quite "normally". I just want to enjoy the BMW feel with a stick and some cargo room. An E30 318is is not even in the running; I've felt they have been overpriced for a long time and it just isn't the right car for my criteria.
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    15. 11-17-2010 06:08 PM #65
      my friend just put this in his 318 this past weekend.


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      11-17-2010 06:28 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by tcslol View Post
      e30s are better built than e36s.
      my guess is there's more interior space in the e30.
      looks are subjective.. the e30 looks way better than the e36. The e30 is nearly classic, it's the e36 that looks dated.
      the front suspension differences are minor. even the latest BMWs have the same basic front suspension design.

      better built, yet older...which means less reliable.

      Your guess....is just a guess...318Ti trunk is more useable is my guess.

      Looks are subjective...and the e30 being nearly a classic does not make it look less dated then an E36. It looks more dated..and thats because it is. Especially the pre small bumper E30's. Looking and being dated is objective. The E36 is not as dated. Which style you like better is subjective however...and i like the 318Ti better.

      The front suspension differences are minor.. You are correct. However, the Ti's front is still better.

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      11-17-2010 06:35 PM #67
      lust for material things?

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      11-17-2010 07:53 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Jrod511 View Post
      A lot of you guys are saying just fix up the 635. On one hand, yes, the car would bring more money that way. But where do you start and where do you end? I've cleaned the car up a great deal, replaced some nickle and dime stuff, and spent a good deal of time just getting the rest to work right.

      What would it cost to make this a $6000 car? $1500 I bet and some time. So, as it sits, I'm willing to take less than $4000 because I just don't have the time and space required to do what it would take to make the car perfect. How much do you fix? The dents? Start chasing every little thing? Each time you're done just $100 more and it'll be that much nicer...
      No. I was just talking about the obvious rear quarter panel sheet-metal damage.
      Most buyers care more about the way a classic car looks on the outside than on the inside, since classics can be an image car.

      And maybe I am wrong- but when a seller says "Oh that will just take $500 to fix", I just have to wonder if $500 really would fix it, then why not fix it before selling?
      If spending $600 makes the car worth $2k more.. is not that a good idea?
      On the other hand, if you are getting good buyer feedback for the car in this condition at $4k , then maybe it is a good time to sell. Maybe there are more people willing to buy a nice 635 with some metal creases for $4k than one with no major metal creases/dents for $6k? Money it tight, and sub $5k may be the ticket.
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      11-17-2010 08:11 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by Numbersix View Post
      See, I don't see this as a 'win-win'.

      The E30 rear suspension is just trickier to handle if you do something ill-advised, like lifting off mid-corner.
      It's a BMW.. That's the point. You have to actually DRIVE the car properly..
      The e30 rear suspension is awesome and nowhere near as unforgiving as some of you people make it out to be.

      Quote Originally Posted by a2a4raddo View Post
      better built, yet older...which means less reliable.

      Your guess....is just a guess...318Ti trunk is more useable is my guess.

      Looks are subjective...and the e30 being nearly a classic does not make it look less dated then an E36. It looks more dated..and thats because it is. Especially the pre small bumper E30's. Looking and being dated is objective. The E36 is not as dated. Which style you like better is subjective however...and i like the 318Ti better.

      The front suspension differences are minor.. You are correct. However, the Ti's front is still better.
      Older doesn't mean less reliable. It means whatever you'd find would likely have more miles, but you can find something with less.

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      11-17-2010 08:43 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Numbersix View Post
      See, I don't see this as a 'win-win'.

      The E30 rear suspension is just trickier to handle if you do something ill-advised, like lifting off mid-corner.
      guess it depends on your definition of tricky.
      The E30 rear suspension always did what I expected... the E36 and E46 suspension always seemed like they were doing their own thing... but that's probably just me

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      11-17-2010 08:45 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by tcslol View Post
      It's a BMW.. That's the point. You have to actually DRIVE the car properly..
      The e30 rear suspension is awesome and nowhere near as unforgiving as some of you people make it out to be.
      people think the E30 rear suspension is unforgiving?
      jeez... these people must have never driven an E21 with a 6 cylinder... hoooooooo-faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    22. 11-17-2010 09:03 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by Jrod511
      Why do I want a BMW 318ti?
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    23. 11-17-2010 09:27 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by CannuckCorradoVR6T View Post
      Blurred vision? Confused? You're probably having a stroke

      That explains looking for Buick Reattas and 70's Shag Wagons. (Sometimes ebay leads to wild places...)
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      11-17-2010 09:48 PM #74
      A 318ti is a fun car. Don't let the hatters tell you otherwise. Would the car be better with an S52? Yup. Would a GTI be better in RWD? Yup. Here we are then, its BMW fun with GTI practicality.

      The fact is that BMW should have created this car with the 2.8L and M package but you can deal with the 1.9L that is buzzy and fun or find a donor M3 and start your swap. I had a buddy check this one out. It may still be for sale. But it was in good condition but had a few rust spots that you cant see in the pictures but overall, very vice.

      http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/2006724374.html



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    25. 11-17-2010 09:49 PM #75
      Problem with the 318ti is that it still has E30 suspension. With an S52 sure it goes faster, but it doesn't go "better".

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