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    Thread: Transmission Valve Body warranty extension (hard shifting)

    1. 12-08-2010 07:25 PM #1
      Just got this letter in the mail from VW saying that the warranty on the transmission valve body has been extended to 7 years / 100k miles.

      The letter says...

      "Volkswagen has received customer complaints of affected vehicles that may experience a hard shift from first to second gear, and also from second to third gear."

      This is exactly the problem that has been really irritating me, as well as others, ever since I bought my car back in July of 2007. Though I seem to also have the problem when downshifting in lower gears also, but I assume that its probably also related to the transmission valve body.

      Further down the letter it says...

      "Additionally, the transmission in your vehicle must have been maintained in accordance with the maintenence requirements found in your vehicle owner's manual."

      This second part bothers me a little because even though my car only has 27k miles on it, I've had it for 3.5 years and have never taken it in to have it serviced at the dealership. I have always done the servicing myself. I hope any type of servicing on the transmission hasnt been required up till now. I havent done anything to the transmission yet so I hope that helps.

      Did anyone else get this letter? Do you think I would have a problem getting the problem fixed under warranty or would they look at how I have never taken the car in for scheduled maintenence as a problem?

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      12-08-2010 07:48 PM #2
      That letter would have helped me 30k miles ago lol. I haven't gotten any letter like that but I would think that they would look for any sort of records that youve had it serviced at the dealership.
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    3. 12-09-2010 10:23 AM #3
      ya but even though I havent had it serviced at the dealership, I also havent done anything to the transmission, so nothing has been done to the transmission outside of the warranty. The letter said the transmission had to be maintained according to the manual but the only thing mentioned in the manual up to 27k miles was to check for transmission fluid leaks at 20k miles.

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      12-09-2010 11:08 AM #4
      at 27k youre good.

      trannys are to be services every 40k

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      12-09-2010 11:51 AM #5
      Is this a recall letter? There is a recall going around for the DSG, which is the Open Campaign 37E6. This calls for replacing the mechatronic unit.

      If you do not have a DSG, and this is not a recall notice, this is probably just a transmission warranty extension notice.

      Just so everyone knows, in order for your transmission warranty, and extension, to be valid, the DSG service that is due at 40k, has to have been done.


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      12-09-2010 12:04 PM #6
      I just called VWOA and this is true for the 09G Aisian Warner auto 6 speed Transmissions i believe in the earlier years. My 05.5 qualifies for this warranty.

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      12-09-2010 12:07 PM #7
      imma call my dealer to wee what up

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      12-09-2010 03:06 PM #8
      My wife received a letter today from VW O A (Dec 7th 2010) informing her of an extended warranty and recall to her 2004 bug, the letter states that VW will replace the Automatic transmission Valve body free of charge and at no cost, due to a defect that has been identified.

      If your reading this and wondering if its true, VW has seen the light... on this $$$$$$

      she has just booked her bug in with the local dealer to schedule the work to be done, VWOA appear to have taken action to this recall, based on a class action law suit being filed by a group of VW owners

      Wait for the letter.... then call your dealer right away, hang in there...... its coming

      I'll let you know what she she gets the bug back home, probably next week or after xmas

      This is great news considering the bug is all but junk, and hasnt moved from drive in the last 6 months due to its bucking bronco attitude.. plus the value will now increase from $500 to $7k

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    9. 12-09-2010 06:40 PM #9
      I'm so excited to have this fixed on my car. I hope its not something were they have to duplicate it first before they agree to fix it since it doesnt happen every time the low gears change.

      Does anyone know if its a complicated fix? If I schedule an appointment and take it down to the dealer could they have it done in an hour or two or is it something that takes more time?

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      12-09-2010 08:17 PM #10
      is this only for automatic transmissions?
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      12-10-2010 09:21 AM #11
      Replacing the valve body is a good few hours, I think they probably take the engine and box out of the car complete...which I would say probably takes a couple of hours to get on the floor, then the valve body has to be taken off the gearbox, then replaced and the box bolted back on to the engine bell housing, I'm not sure if the control module needs to be updated, but my guess is this may have the software updated to the latest revision, is this a permanent fix to the issue.... well if its a like for like replacement part (which we dont know yet) it will last about another 40K before going out again, if its a modified valve body (not standard) then it may just cure the issue for the life of the vehicle... remember VW are only doing this because they have had to, (class action law suit) its not that they saw this issue and said, he guys we gotta fix this for all those owners, remember up until yesterday if you took this issue to your dealer, because they new the issue existed they could not identify it as a defect, becuase until VW take ownership its the dealer who has to foot the bill, which they just aint gonna do...

      If this is a like for like part replacement, then I think we will part ex this in the summer for something less complex and more reliable.

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      12-10-2010 09:27 AM #12
      Konsole.... call your dealer/service dpt. as they have to order the part in from VW, they are calling my wife back when the part is stock and to schedule the repair with her...



      Quote Originally Posted by konsole View Post
      I'm so excited to have this fixed on my car. I hope its not something were they have to duplicate it first before they agree to fix it since it doesnt happen every time the low gears change.

      Does anyone know if its a complicated fix? If I schedule an appointment and take it down to the dealer could they have it done in an hour or two or is it something that takes more time?

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      12-10-2010 09:28 AM #13
      Yes, Automatic only....

      Quote Originally Posted by l.i. dubbr View Post
      is this only for automatic transmissions?

    14. 12-10-2010 12:21 PM #14
      Thats a good point about replacing it with a like part or with a modified part. I hope it is a modified part.

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      12-10-2010 01:32 PM #15
      I hope so too Konsole, or this is going to be a short recall, I'm going to ask the service dude when I go along with my Wife to the dealers see if they will tell me if this is a modded part or not, if I will update as soon as I find out.

      Quote Originally Posted by konsole View Post
      Thats a good point about replacing it with a like part or with a modified part. I hope it is a modified part.

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      12-10-2010 01:55 PM #16
      Haven't received a letter yet...


      EDIT: It arrived this afternoon. My transmission shifts fine though and I'm at 53,000 miles.
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      12-10-2010 02:24 PM #17
      Just got the letter and called my dealer. Going in on Tuesday.
      Just in time I may add as my 06 rabbit has 92000 miles.
      I've been complaining to them about the hard shift since 30000 miles and they always said it's the way they shift.
      Once, I had a mechanic take it for a drive but since the problem only occurs when the car has been driving for a while, the mechanic saw/felt no problems. The guy at the dealer told me today that he'll have a mechanic take it out but I told him to not bother.
      Should a diagnostic test confirm this problem?

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      12-10-2010 03:08 PM #18
      bjork2,

      I don't believe that running a diagnostic will show any error codes, because the issue is with the valve body in so much as the defect is related to a reduction in transmission fluid to the Torque Converter (T/C) and this is due to excessive fluid wear through the valve body, running a diagnostic will do little as there is no conditions setup within the software to identify this wear or sensors that would detect the fluid difference to the T/C in other words it has to be monitored by something to know of an issue, and that's the whole reason there is so much controversy about this issue, its not something you can point to in an error code and say "Look, the code says P992 -1 that's excessive valve body wear".

      What I would do is get the car warm first before you run it around that's what I'm going to do, but be careful if its snowing or icy, you need to be a aware that it could skid off the road, so maybe leave the engine running for 10-15 idling then even run up and down the parking lot to warm up the T/C and fluid.

      Your correct, the defect shows up more when warm than when cold... tell the mechanic this, and make sure to let them know you are not paying for any parts or labor for this recall, make this statement and also write this on the paperwork you get from the service dpt when you drop off the vehicle (leave a cell number stating no chargeable work to be done without consulting owner)

      Hope this helps
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      Quote Originally Posted by bjork2 View Post
      Just got the letter and called my dealer. Going in on Tuesday.
      Just in time I may add as my 06 rabbit has 92000 miles.
      I've been complaining to them about the hard shift since 30000 miles and they always said it's the way they shift.
      Once, I had a mechanic take it for a drive but since the problem only occurs when the car has been driving for a while, the mechanic saw/felt no problems. The guy at the dealer told me today that he'll have a mechanic take it out but I told him to not bother.
      Should a diagnostic test confirm this problem?

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      12-11-2010 07:21 AM #19
      Thanks Doc!



      Quote Originally Posted by thedutydoctor View Post
      bjork2,

      I don't believe that running a diagnostic will show any error codes, because the issue is with the valve body in so much as the defect is related to a reduction in transmission fluid to the Torque Converter (T/C) and this is due to excessive fluid wear through the valve body, running a diagnostic will do little as there is no conditions setup within the software to identify this wear or sensors that would detect the fluid difference to the T/C in other words it has to be monitored by something to know of an issue, and that's the whole reason there is so much controversy about this issue, its not something you can point to in an error code and say "Look, the code says P992 -1 that's excessive valve body wear".

      What I would do is get the car warm first before you run it around that's what I'm going to do, but be careful if its snowing or icy, you need to be a aware that it could skid off the road, so maybe leave the engine running for 10-15 idling then even run up and down the parking lot to warm up the T/C and fluid.

      Your correct, the defect shows up more when warm than when cold... tell the mechanic this, and make sure to let them know you are not paying for any parts or labor for this recall, make this statement and also write this on the paperwork you get from the service dpt when you drop off the vehicle (leave a cell number stating no chargeable work to be done without consulting owner)

      Hope this helps
      the duty doc

    20. 12-11-2010 07:30 PM #20
      I too have a hard bucking shift from 1st to 2nd gear on my 2005.5 2.5 engine "new jetta" ever since the car was 1 year old.

      I was told several times at VW that it was "normal" and that techs did not notice the issue when test driving the jetta.

      The car now has 63,000 miles and has a kelly blue book value of $9,000 private sale in my area.

      Now VW sends this letter basically admitting that I wasnt crazy after all these years.
      I am afraid after they tinker around with the valve body and etc that the issue wont be resolved and now i will have other issues related to this work.

      Anyone here already experience these issues and did the work at a dealer?

      I read the job is about $3700.00 for a valve body replacement.
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      12-11-2010 08:11 PM #21
      3700 to replace the valve body?? you nuts? thats WAY too expensive.

      so freaking expensive, that one could buy a new tranny!

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      12-11-2010 08:17 PM #22
      I've had my '06 2.0T Jetta for ~5k mi so far (37k mi total) and it seems like I have to fight it to go into 2nd and 1st when down shifting. I'm taking it in asap!

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      12-12-2010 05:59 AM #23
      my sister has an 07 rabbit and we just got the letter today
      she has broken the pan on the transmission a few months ago and it was welded and refilled with new fluid
      do you guys think they would still replace the TVB the car is still under warranty
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      12-12-2010 10:31 AM #24
      dutydoc..... (or anyone who has some comment ) My 07 Rabbit has the DSG 6 speed transmission. I received the letter two days ago.
      I have less than 20,000 miles on the Rabbit. (it stays in my garage a lot,... my daily driver is an 84 diesel rabbit )

      I have not noticed any issues w/ the transmission.... so, my question is: Should I have VW dealership do the work on the Valve Body anyway ?.... or, just hold onto that letter, and wait..... ?

      Does this issue show up when the automatic transmission is manually shifted ?.... or, does it show up when shifting in the "auto" (D) mode ? (or both? ) The letter is not clear on this question.

      thanks in advance for any guidance

    25. 12-12-2010 11:26 AM #25
      I have only noticed it in the automatic transmission mode, but thats probably because I've use the Tiptronic mode for only maybe 2 hours total. I don't recall if it happens in sport mode either. For me it happens about once every 50 times that I transition from higher speeds to lower speeds or vice versa. When going up from low gears it feels as if the transmission wont catch and then abruptly catches causing a harsh jolt. Entering lower gears from higher gears yields a similar jolt, but it feels more like someone just bumped me from behind because they didnt slow down in time. I would say the going up in the gears is when it feels the harshest probably because that is when I am pushing on the gas, but both times it occurs in the lower 2 or 3 gears and when Im driving less then 20 mph. It has never happened in the higher gears and never at speeds above 30 mph or so. So not every time but often enough were I am constantly thinking about it happening when in those low gears.

      Whenever someone else is in my car and this problem occurs I have to put on my poker face and act like I'm just a bad driver

      LOL I just noticed I joined these forums exactly 1 year after I bought the car.
      Last edited by konsole; 12-12-2010 at 11:29 AM.

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