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      06-27-2011 03:49 PM #141
      that actually looks like a SE with some value to it Game is looking beautiful, i hope the sounds are evolving and getting better.
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      06-27-2011 04:13 PM #142
      so let me get this straight, can i pre-order the VIP game at best buy and get all the VIP cars as well as the 1M?
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      06-27-2011 04:18 PM #143
      RUF... *Drool Cannot wait!
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      06-27-2011 04:28 PM #144
      Quote Originally Posted by n0rdicalex. View Post
      so let me get this straight, can i pre-order the VIP game at best buy and get all the VIP cars as well as the 1M?
      no one know... because 1M is NOT part of the LCE. It is part of the pre-order/launch bonus... and we don't know about North American retailer pre-order info yet...

      BTW, there is also a rumor that AMG Transport Dynamics (aka ASKLON) is one of the 80 Manufacture in Forza 4. It is the maker of the Warthog used in Halo!!
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      06-27-2011 05:11 PM #145
      Not a fan of the Halo truck if its added. Doesnt fit right. Ill take that back if they add dirt/rally because Id like to try it there. Imagine the already tacky forza aero tacked onto that truck...dats nasty.
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      06-27-2011 05:32 PM #146
      Quote Originally Posted by VR6GTI72 View Post
      Not a fan of the Halo truck if its added. Doesnt fit right. Ill take that back if they add dirt/rally because Id like to try it there. Imagine the already tacky forza aero tacked onto that truck...dats nasty.
      yeah with out any dirt tracks, id be upset if they put that in the game... now with dirt tracks it would be hilarious and im sure id buy one for ****s and giggles
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      06-28-2011 10:29 AM #147
      Has anyone found out if the inclusion of Ruf means they no longer have Porsche? This would be a HUGE disappointment for me, potential for not buying the game even.
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      06-28-2011 11:39 AM #148
      i would be very disappointed without Porsche but there are still too many other cars to enjoy in it to not buy it.

      i was racing online last night in A600 driving the GT3 RS and a GT2 and i would be sad if i couldnt use those in FM4.
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    9. 06-28-2011 11:42 AM #149
      Quote Originally Posted by napkinn View Post
      Has anyone found out if the inclusion of Ruf means they no longer have Porsche? This would be a HUGE disappointment for me, potential for not buying the game even.
      No clue yet. No confirmation either that Porsche is in or not in. I too would be massively disappointed since every Forza has had Porsche in it. But it won't stop me from buying the game. I mean Porsche has never been in GT and I've bought every full release to date excluding only Prologues

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      06-28-2011 11:48 AM #150
      this a slowed down leak vid from Turn10...



      first manufacturer is Asklon, and i too was worried about Porsche, especially since it barely shows up in this slowed down version.

      but take it for what it's worth considering it's not official.
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      06-28-2011 11:53 AM #151
      delorean!!!! maybe we'll be able to time travel to the end of a race ftw!
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      06-28-2011 11:56 AM #152
      If we do get some dirt tracks and for the rally cars... im thinking some Pikes Peak action is needed! *crossing fingers*
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      06-28-2011 12:04 PM #153
      Quote Originally Posted by CuCo33 View Post
      No clue yet. No confirmation either that Porsche is in or not in. I too would be massively disappointed since every Forza has had Porsche in it. But it won't stop me from buying the game. I mean Porsche has never been in GT and I've bought every full release to date excluding only Prologues
      It would be more of a pointing out my issues thing for me. Forza's done a lot to piss me off in the past 2 years.
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      06-28-2011 02:28 PM #154
      I won't worry too much about no Porsche in Forza 4. It is because this is Forza by Turn 10 (= Microsoft) not Polyphony.

      First... Turn 10 are not allowed to publish screen shots of Porsche cars for promotion, because its a sub-license.

      EA has the license for Porsche and Polyphony was not willing to pay a cerrtain amount of cash so thats why no Porsche in GT5.

      But when it comes to Forza, we have Turn 10 and in the end Microsoft so money should not be a big object. Turn10 (Microsoft) will do anything to keep Porsche. They know Porsche car in Forza is one of their advantage over GT.

      This is another example for Turn 10 how willing to get the car we want...
      See Nissan. You can have all Nissans in a game but to have the GTR(R35), you have to sign a separate deal with the GTR-Marketing Group.

      Polyphony usually get cars by doing "favor" for manufacturers... like
      http://www.bzvalue.com/ferrari/218fe...alifornia.html
      or remember Ferrari previous version website....
      GTR interface
      FT-86 concept video... and that useless track screen thingy...

      Turn10(Microsoft) get cars through $$$ - which is the most effective tools...

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      EA controls the rights to Porsche (All platform)
      Microsoft and Sony control the rights to Ferrari on the respective platforms.

      I am guessing Sony and EA don't like each other too much.
      GT5 don't have Porsche and NFS Shift 1/2 don't have Ferrari. Ferrari's where only added to Shift 1 as DLC but only to the 360 version.
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      06-28-2011 02:54 PM #155
      Not sure if this has been said, but Top Gear has been involved with Forza since Forza 3.


      That being said, this looks amazing.

      edit: I also noticed the Top Gear test track is going to be in here, awesome.
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      06-28-2011 03:04 PM #156
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Not sure if this has been said, but Top Gear has been involved with Forza since Forza 3.


      That being said, this looks amazing.

      edit: I also noticed the Top Gear test track is going to be in here, awesome.
      Cee with the apostrophe D


      BTW, do GT5 has this car?? Because I don't remember there are Kia in GT5... It is kind of weird they have the Top Gear track without this car...
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    17. 06-28-2011 04:15 PM #157
      Just got back from putting my $10 on the CE at Gamestop.

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      06-28-2011 04:24 PM #158
      Quote Originally Posted by DWhiteRiot View Post
      Just got back from putting my $10 on the CE at Gamestop.
      so do you know which bonus pre-order car will you get??
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    19. 06-28-2011 04:29 PM #159
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      I won't worry too much about no Porsche in Forza 4. It is because this is Forza by Turn 10 (= Microsoft) not Polyphony.

      First... Turn 10 are not allowed to publish screen shots of Porsche cars for promotion, because its a sub-license.

      EA has the license for Porsche and Polyphony was not willing to pay a cerrtain amount of cash so thats why no Porsche in GT5.

      But when it comes to Forza, we have Turn 10 and in the end Microsoft so money should not be a big object. Turn10 (Microsoft) will do anything to keep Porsche. They know Porsche car in Forza is one of their advantage over GT.

      This is another example for Turn 10 how willing to get the car we want...
      See Nissan. You can have all Nissans in a game but to have the GTR(R35), you have to sign a separate deal with the GTR-Marketing Group.

      Polyphony usually get cars by doing "favor" for manufacturers... like
      http://www.bzvalue.com/ferrari/218fe...alifornia.html
      or remember Ferrari previous version website....
      GTR interface
      FT-86 concept video... and that useless track screen thingy...

      Turn10(Microsoft) get cars through $$$ - which is the most effective tools...

      FYI:
      EA controls the rights to Porsche (All platform)
      Microsoft and Sony control the rights to Ferrari on the respective platforms.

      I am guessing Sony and EA don't like each other too much.
      GT5 don't have Porsche and NFS Shift 1/2 don't have Ferrari. Ferrari's where only added to Shift 1 as DLC but only to the 360 version.
      A lot of this is true. I could be wrong but didn't Ferrari tell T10 that for FM2 their car had to be the fastest, 'stock'? And that's why the 333SP was the fastest unmodified car in the game. PD apparently pissed off Porsche as in one of the older GTs there was a Porsche 911 modeled in, but to access it you needed access to the game code (where it was first found) or some game genie thing or file save edit of some sort. During FM3 promo, Porsche was nowhere to be found up until the preorder DLC 911 GT3 RS was shown off. Maybe this time T10 is taking the 'We've got RUFs' approach and are holding off on unveiling Porsche.

      EA also most likely wanted a lot more from PD than what they wanted from T10. I can only imagine how expensive it was for PD to get Porsche even with GT being Sony's biggest franchise with PD getting over 60mil budget to develop GT5. It couldn't have been THAT much higher

      I just really REALLY hope that Porsche is in fact in FM4. One of the winningest brands in motorsports to not be part of a big racing game is just... not... right

    20. 06-28-2011 04:33 PM #160
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      Cee with the apostrophe D


      BTW, do GT5 has this car?? Because I don't remember there are Kia in GT5... It is kind of weird they have the Top Gear track without this car...
      There's a few issues with the TGTT in GT5. 1st is the lack of reasonably priced car, regardless of which one, none are in GT5. 2nd is the rolling starts. TG has never done a run with a rolling start. It's always been standing start. 3rd is not too big a problem but TG's camera angles. Seems PD wanted their own. Add all 3 of these things up, as well as what TG license was used in GT5... makes you wonder if anyone from PD even watched the TG show, like ever.

      It seems T10 is doing it right with all of these things in the game. The Cee'd, the standing start, the TG camera angles. And now we get JC to do voice overs with some apparent 'fun' TG events. I love TG so I'm stoked about this inclusion, even if I think the track is rather blah

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      06-28-2011 04:58 PM #161
      WTF is cee'd?

    22. 06-28-2011 05:05 PM #162
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      WTF is cee'd?
      A Kia model, the red shown in the video which is the same one that Top Gear uses for 'reasonably priced car'. This is I believe the 3rd 'reasonably priced car' since the show started

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      06-28-2011 05:12 PM #163
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      WTF is cee'd?
      guess u never watched newer Top Gear....


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      06-29-2011 05:35 AM #164
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      guess u never watched newer Top Gear....


      In here (North America) we called Forte5
      Actually ive watched every episode probably 5 times over, just never heard the cars name.

    25. 06-29-2011 09:55 AM #165
      JC has said the name of the car a few times although he always throws a new joke in. I recall him saying 'and here's the Cee apostrophe D' lol

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      06-29-2011 09:56 AM #166
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Actually ive watched every episode probably 5 times over, just never heard the cars name.
      They call it the See-Apostrophe-Dee.
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      06-30-2011 11:44 PM #167
      I would love to see smaller lesser known tracks. BIR, Mid America, Mid Ohio, etc.

      Not all of us get to race at Laguna Seca in real life, it'd be fun to compare real track times to game track times.

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      07-01-2011 12:34 AM #168
      this game would make heads explode if they did an America Track Map DLC with ten tracks from around the country that aren't already in the game.

      another thing i'm hoping for is an original mini cooper. surprised it wasn't originally in the game or both jalopnik packs.
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      07-01-2011 06:26 AM #169
      Limerock would be huge. As well as the Glen.

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      07-01-2011 08:27 AM #170
      Quote Originally Posted by VR6GTI72 View Post
      I read that they got the sound guy from PGR4 onboard. I havent played that game but everyone seemed to like his wirk. Anyone own that game that feels that the sounds in Forza might finally get some uniqueness?
      So, I picked up PGR4 a few days ago. While I have my complaints about the game, what I will say is that the sound/music is better than in Forza 3. While the engine sounds are still not incredible, they are at least more varied than the standard Forza engine sounds.

      There also appears to be more music, as in more than the half a dozen songs that are on Forza. So, hopefully with Forza 4 the engines/music etc will be even better. I think the next games I am likely to buy will be both Forza 4 and F1 2011.

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      07-01-2011 08:37 AM #171
      Quote Originally Posted by naiku View Post
      So, I picked up PGR4 a few days ago. While I have my complaints about the game, what I will say is that the sound/music is better than in Forza 3. While the engine sounds are still not incredible, they are at least more varied than the standard Forza engine sounds.

      There also appears to be more music, as in more than the half a dozen songs that are on Forza. So, hopefully with Forza 4 the engines/music etc will be even better. I think the next games I am likely to buy will be both Forza 4 and F1 2011.
      Music in video games that aren't story driven is negligible with today's ability to play your own music in the background. Personally, I couldn't care less what music is in Forza. The first thing I do is turn it all the way down, then I never ever touch it again.
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      07-01-2011 09:00 AM #172
      Quote Originally Posted by napkinn View Post
      Music in video games that aren't story driven is negligible with today's ability to play your own music in the background. Personally, I couldn't care less what music is in Forza. The first thing I do is turn it all the way down, then I never ever touch it again.
      Yeah, I was under the impression that most people muted the music anyways?



      Also, Forza is known for having great sounds, I doubt Project Gothem has better sounds quite frankly.

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      07-01-2011 09:29 AM #173
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Yeah, I was under the impression that most people muted the music anyways?



      Also, Forza is known for having great sounds, I doubt Project Gothem has better sounds quite frankly.
      My favorite sound in Forza was the E36 M3 with a Sport Exhaust in FM2. It sounded downright nasty.
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      07-01-2011 10:54 AM #174
      Quote Originally Posted by napkinn View Post
      Music in video games that aren't story driven is negligible with today's ability to play your own music in the background. Personally, I couldn't care less what music is in Forza. The first thing I do is turn it all the way down, then I never ever touch it again.
      Same here, sometimes I leave it on, but for the most part I have it turned down.

      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Also, Forza is known for having great sounds, I doubt Project Gothem has better sounds quite frankly.
      I must have high expectations then, for me the sounds in Forza are poor. Most of the engine sounds have very little difference between them. Definitely nothing in there that I would describe as great. I have mine hooked into my Onkyo receiver via optical cable, so it is not a speaker issue either.

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      07-01-2011 11:48 AM #175
      Quote Originally Posted by naiku View Post

      I must have high expectations then, for me the sounds in Forza are poor. Most of the engine sounds have very little difference between them. Definitely nothing in there that I would describe as great. I have mine hooked into my Onkyo receiver via optical cable, so it is not a speaker issue either.
      They're not great, but they're the best out there on an XBox game, except for maybe a couple of older NFS games with fewer cars. Personally, I think FM2 sounds were actually better than Forza 3.
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