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    Thread: Would you buy a Scirocco in the US if it came with a 1.4 TSI engine?

    1. 12-29-2010 08:05 PM #1
      Just something to ponder . . .

      Here in the US we don't have any version of the Scirocco available. It's been said that VWoA wouldn't want to cannibalize GTI or Golf sales and that the car would be too expensive if imported.

      What if VWoA imported the Scirocco with only the 1.4 TSI 160 PS engine available? Note - this engine would provide the Scirocco with about an 8 second 0-60 time.

      What about the 1.4 TSI 122 PS version with around a 9.5 second 0-60 time and billed as a fuel miser?

      The idea would be to differentiate the Scirocco enough from the rest of the VWoA product offerings where it might have a chance of increasing sales instead of simply expanding the product mix with no increase in revenue. I don't believe the 1.4 TSI engine is currently available in North America but thought I'd throw this out to see what others might think.

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      12-30-2010 03:14 PM #2
      I don't care what motor it comes with, I would buy one 100%.

      I had the pleasure of driving and tuning the suspension on one in 2009 at KW Germany and loved every minute of it.

      Besides, my first car was a 78 Scirocco & a 79 when the 78's floor pan decided it needed to compost . There something to be said for nostalgia, and the lengths we will go for a taste of the past

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      12-30-2010 07:40 PM #3
      Would I buy one? Uhh...YES! This would be perfect. A sweet looking car with an engine you can wind up and still have fun with. Sometimes its not how much power you got, but what you can do with it. Just like my old 86 1.8 gti. Bring it VW!!!

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      02-03-2011 09:02 AM #4
      Heck Yes, but would rather have the 2.0 TDI like they have runing around Europe


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      02-15-2011 05:38 PM #5
      lately Vw has been disappointing me
      they only put their good motors in Audi now. smh
      since mk5 i havent liked much that ive seen..including the r32 which I preferred the mk4 version
      with the scirocco should have been sold in the us i believe. It would have made more overall sales
      and with such a tiny motor would be sad... i would have like to see the scirocco made with tdi's 2.5t's and 3.6 vr6's
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    6. 02-16-2011 08:57 PM #6
      I'd buy either of the tsi 1.4's .. especially if it's the 160HP Super&Turbo charged version, that little engine is EVIL good

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      02-17-2011 01:31 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by VWPhanatic View Post
      I'd buy either of the tsi 1.4's .. especially if it's the 160HP Super&Turbo charged version, that little engine is EVIL good
      S***s WEAK..my 03 24v puts out 201hp stock

    8. 02-17-2011 02:53 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by vrsexmike View Post
      S***s WEAK..my 03 24v puts out 201hp stock
      You're talking about a stock '03 v6 engine compared to a forced induction 4cyl with about less than 1/2 the litres (and is still street legal). Seriously?! What? Did you want the 1.4 to cook for you too?

      Considering how small that 1.4 is and the fact that it is 41 hp shy from your 24v , you might want to rethink on how "weak" that little engine truely is not.

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      02-17-2011 04:52 PM #9
      all that power isnt due to the motor...its allo turbo buddy...shove the same turbo in a VR6.
      Its not a V6. then see the diference

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      if it came and i had the money i would so buy one
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    11. 02-18-2011 05:25 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by vrsexmike View Post
      all that power isnt due to the motor...its allo turbo buddy...shove the same turbo in a VR6.
      Its not a V6. then see the diference
      The 160HP - 170HP 1.4 TSI is both Super & Turbo charged (I hear they call this version "twincharged"). This same engine produces around 177 lbs/ft between 1750 - 3500 rpms.

      There is another version of the 1.4 Tsi that is just turbo charged that produces about 125HP. And the naturally aspirated version that produces about 70-80HP.

      On a related note regarding turbocharging a VR6. HPA has done as such and has produced interesting results with the naturally aspirated as well as the single and bi-turbos all based on the 3.6 VR6 engine. HP ranging from 300 HP (naturally aspirated VR6) to 640 for the bi-turbos.

      You still can't compare an engine with more litres and cylinders vs. such a small motor. My point was that for such a small engine, they've squeezed alot from it despite how small it is. I mean, face it, 1.4 litres is bearly anything to work with. That they've pushed 170hp from it is pretty impressive.
      Last edited by VWPhanatic; 02-18-2011 at 05:54 AM.

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      02-18-2011 08:25 PM #12
      Nice to know youve done a bit of research online

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      heres what potential a vr6 holds


    14. 02-18-2011 10:36 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by vrsexmike View Post
      Nice to know youve done a bit of research online
      I've actually driven a turbo'd 3.2L VR6. Car was evil fast! I had to get used to it as it thrusted me into the seat lol. I do not doubt the potential that VR6 engine has. I am still rather impressed with the numbers they came up with on the 1.4. I'd kill to drive one just to see how it fairs on vehicles of such weight such as the Sirocco, GTI, and Eos.
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      02-18-2011 11:45 PM #15
      I would like it if it came to the US even if it had NO motor

      but I would prefer a TDI
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      02-19-2011 01:55 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by 91jetta_mike View Post
      I would like it if it came to the US even if it had NO motor
      Nice thinkin...id like to see it with a 3.6 vr6

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      04-03-2011 07:37 PM #17
      I'd buy one with any engine. I had the luck of sitting in one in Germany and they are sweet. VW of America needs to pull their heads out and bring the damn car here to the states.

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      04-04-2011 04:49 PM #18
      I'm guessing the reason why they dont want to bring it to the US is cause it wont sell?? If so, Idk what they are smoking cause it would be a hit!
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      04-06-2011 09:41 PM #19
      2.0tsi. Bring it right now!
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      04-09-2011 01:54 PM #20
      I heard the reason they don't want to bring it to the US is because they're scared it'll kill Golf sales. I wouldn't even be surprised if it did! I would love one with a 1.4 TSI engine. I love Sciroccos period.

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      04-13-2011 04:29 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by vrsexmike View Post
      all that power isnt due to the motor...its allo turbo buddy...shove the same turbo in a VR6.
      if you put the same turbo on a vr6 you'd see full boost at less than 900rpms and and the turbo would run out of steam the second you applied ANY throttle at all. you are really dumb or you don't understand even the most basic fundamentals of forced induction and hot/cold side sizing per displacement. "no vr6 no care" gtfohwts

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      04-13-2011 09:35 PM #22
      Any motor will do. Just bring the car over here NOW. Thanks!
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      04-13-2011 11:14 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by 91jetta_mike View Post
      I would like it if it came to the US even if it had NO motor
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      04-18-2011 10:42 AM #24
      They could make the Golf and GTI available only in 4 door and they wouldn't have to worry about it.


      I found this link this morning, apparently Motor Trend thinks the Scirocco is coming to the US:

      http://m.motortrend.com/features/mt_.../photo_58.html
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      04-25-2011 11:50 AM #26
      Heck Yes!! My first US Scirroco was the 78 1.5 75HP and it was plenty fast enough with the US emissions. Of course than it weighed only 1990 Lbs But the TSI engine is more than enough power and economically great!! Bring it On!!


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      05-05-2011 12:15 AM #27
      if the whole package is right yeah, I would.

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      05-06-2011 09:36 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by golf44 View Post
      Heck Yes, but would rather have the 2.0 TDI like they have runing around Europe


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    30. 05-09-2011 10:18 PM #30
      I'm not sure why VW would care about sales and who buys which VW, as long as they would surely garner new buyers...

      I would buy 1 with a 2.0T in a second...only hatch that i would ever drive...

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      06-20-2011 08:50 PM #31
      i would buy one regardless of what engine it had

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      06-21-2011 12:49 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Sales @ AMI View Post
      I don't care what motor it comes with, I would buy one 100%.
      Came to post this. I couldn't agree more.
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      06-28-2011 06:37 PM #33
      I would def buy one not with a 1.4 though mk3 gti's would eat it with 172 hp stock... Y downgrade such a beautiful car? Fuk that stupid a$$ new r and bring the Rocco over in limited numbers people are gunna pay an extra 10 g's for a haladex system and a bodykit

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      07-13-2011 06:56 PM #34
      The Scirocco is a beautiful piece of machinery. I didn't like it untill I saw it in person. 1.4 no but any other engine wouldn't think twice.

    35. 07-14-2011 07:26 AM #35
      Wow that's ignorance for you!.

      Yeah those 1.4's suck, you know they only do 0-60 in 5.5 with a remap, god that's pathetic

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