Clutch release noise/chirp/squeak/hooo

[ride106]

Interesting! They said they found a bulletin? That might be the first news we've heard of this. Not that it matters, just about everyone has to put up with at least some amount of arguing.

Glad the forums could help you out.

[DrewCC2010]

Yeah they found a bulletin that uses the same words we've been using on here i.e. "hooting,""chirp." Also, the service rep just called me to say that the TOB is part of the updated kit so I'm feeling much better about it.

[HYDE16]

Yeah they found a bulletin that uses the same words we've been using on here i.e. "hooting,""chirp." Also, the service rep just called me to say that the TOB is part of the updated kit so I'm feeling much better about it.

Please ask the dealership for the service / bulletin (TSB) number.

[dub*man]

A TSB number would be very helpful!

[DrewCC2010]

I got my car back and it feels and sounds great. Clutch feels great and no more hooting or weird noises. They replaced the TOB as well as the clutch kit. Here are the part numbers:

06J141015JX Clutch Kit
0A5141671F Bearing
N90320701 Screw (6)
02F141143A Washer

I don't have the TSB number but I will call on Monday and get it. The service manager told me that around 25,000 cars have/may have this fault. Yes...25 thousand cars. Not many I guess when you think about how many cars VW makes and sells but still sounds like a huge number to me.

[DrewCC2010]

The TSB number is #2028783. The TSB was released in April of 2012. VW models CC, GTI, Eos, Jetta and Passat from 2010 to 2012 with 6 speed manual trans could have this problem. I hope this is helpful!

[dub*man]

Okay.. Just got word from the dealer. VW is only going to cover 40% of the repair for the clutch even with the TSB no that I provided them.

[HYDE16]

Okay.. Just got word from the dealer. VW is only going to cover 40% of the repair for the clutch even with the TSB no that I provided them.

PM me with your email address so I can send you my invoice showing full warranty coverage. You should not pay this.

[sum41kid861]

glad to see this is all coming together finally

[heimbachae]

The TSB number is #2028783. The TSB was released in April of 2012. VW models CC, GTI, Eos, Jetta and Passat from 2010 to 2012 with 6 speed manual trans could have this problem. I hope this is helpful!

bah, no 2009 GTI TSB?

[FliGi7]

bah, no 2009 GTI TSB?

Mine's an '08.5 TSI with this issue. Sucks for us, I suppose.

[DrewCC2010]

The service manager I dealt with told me the TSB applied to only 2010-2012 models. That's horrible about the 40% BS...

[Lt. Crash]

The service manager I dealt with told me the TSB applied to only 2010-2012 models.

Great... Why is this only a problem with the '10-'12 when VW switched to the TSI in '08.5? Seems too coincidental... Any problems from the TDI guys? They would be the only ones getting the 6 speed manual trans right?

[HYDE16]

Drew, the part you listed (02F141143A Washer) comes up as an o-ring.
Are you sure it's a washer?
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/02F141143A/ES5340/

Does anyone know the hardware needed to replace the bolts used to secure the transmission?
I've dropped my trans a few times and would love to get new bolts.

I got my car back and it feels and sounds great. Clutch feels great and no more hooting or weird noises. They replaced the TOB as well as the clutch kit. Here are the part numbers:

06J141015JX Clutch Kit
0A5141671F Bearing
N90320701 Screw (6)
02F141143A Washer

I don't have the TSB number but I will call on Monday and get it. The service manager told me that around 25,000 cars have/may have this fault. Yes...25 thousand cars. Not many I guess when you think about how many cars VW makes and sells but still sounds like a huge number to me.

[MK6GLIr]

ive been having an issue with my clutch as well for the last 4-6 thousand miles. I have a 2012 gli and my clutch occassionally slips when i get on it to 2nd to 3rd gear. I was told by the dealer that they would look at it but if its not a manufactures defect itll cost me $700

Any ideas of what this could be? Cars only got 9800 miles on it

[John2.8GLI]

ive been having an issue with my clutch as well for the last 4-6 thousand miles. I have a 2012 gli and my clutch occassionally slips when i get on it to 2nd to 3rd gear. I was told by the dealer that they would look at it but if its not a manufactures defect itll cost me $700

Any ideas of what this could be? Cars only got 9800 miles on it

Its a glazed Clutch disc, unfortunately its a wear and tear issue, no warranty usually... nothing is really wrong with your clutch, it will still perform fine, just have an annoying sound, my recommendation? Turn your music up louder until your clutch starts to slip, then replace all components...

[dub*man]

VW has offered 60% coverage to me even with the TSB for my 11' GTI.
I'm at 40k so thats their reasoning for not covering it fully. I did mention the issue at my 30k service but there is no record of that.

This should be taken care of under power train since it's a clutch/TOB/flywheel related problem.

This really sucks....

[cuckoo4watches]

VW has offered 60% coverage to me even with the TSB for my 11' GTI.
I'm at 40k so thats their reasoning for not covering it fully. I did mention the issue at my 30k service but there is no record of that.

This should be taken care of under power train since it's a clutch/TOB/flywheel related problem.

This really sucks....

Is VWoA offering the 60% off or is the dealership offering that?

regardless, FIGHT IT!

they are probably going with the coverage of a clutch being covered up to 36k miles.
I think that is what they told me when I originally stated my issue at 7k on my CC and had a heck of a time
trying to duplicate the noise.
after about 25k miles, the noise was easier to replicate.

The fact that they issued a TSB shows that VWoA are aware that they designed a faulty part (TOB) and
that they have now corrected the problem with the new design.

I'd b*tch, b*tch, and b*tch some more.

I'd hope they'd cover it, especially if you are the original owner and have done all the proper services.

with all the quirks of my new GLI, I am so on the fence any more about owning VW...
I have been a long time supporter of theirs but lately my mind is starting to change.

I sure hope their quality control hasn't gone back down the toilet like it did in the late 90s to early 2000s.

GOOD LUCK!

[heimbachae]

Its a glazed Clutch disc, unfortunately its a wear and tear issue, no warranty usually... nothing is really wrong with your clutch, it will still perform fine, just have an annoying sound, my recommendation? Turn your music up louder until your clutch starts to slip, then replace all components...

that's what i did, and i'm over 80k

[dub*man]

Is VWoA offering the 60% off or is the dealership offering that?

regardless, FIGHT IT!

they are probably going with the coverage of a clutch being covered up to 36k miles.
I think that is what they told me when I originally stated my issue at 7k on my CC and had a heck of a time
trying to duplicate the noise.
after about 25k miles, the noise was easier to replicate.

The fact that they issued a TSB shows that VWoA are aware that they designed a faulty part (TOB) and
that they have now corrected the problem with the new design.

I'd b*tch, b*tch, and b*tch some more.

I'd hope they'd cover it, especially if you are the original owner and have done all the proper services.

with all the quirks of my new GLI, I am so on the fence any more about owning VW...
I have been a long time supporter of theirs but lately my mind is starting to change.

I sure hope their quality control hasn't gone back down the toilet like it did in the late 90s to early 2000s.

GOOD LUCK!

This is VWoA offering the 60% (up from 40%...) I'm going to speak with a RCM supervisor today. I'll post the outcome.

[Brizo]

Hi Guys

Great that i came across this thread.

i am having the same issue and wanted to know if anyone has any details to contact VW direct with the Fault Bulletin?

[ride106]

Brizo,

There is a ton of information on this thread. It will take you a little while, but I would read through every post before asking specific questions... Just about everything you need to know is already documented.

There is another related thread for the GTIs (which share the transmission with Passats) located at http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showth...aring&page=999

In a nutshell, VW will either do one of three things depending on your mileage and local dealership:

1. warranty the repair for your clutch, flywheel and throw-out bearing without any hassle
2. refuse to pay anything and claim that the noise is the fault of the driver
3. some combination of the two, resulting in either full warranty or partial coverage.

[heimbachae]

I've had this issue since the car was new, and I'm now crossing 83K on my 2009 GTI. if anyone was wondering how long they can go....

[dcbc]

Perfect storm of dealer forgetfulness and right place at right time, and I'm getting this fixed under the powertrain warranty.. Long story short, I asked my dealer about the TSB. Dealer called regional rep. Regional rep on vacation. Dealer doesn't appear to have followed up. I called and got no return phone calls. I go in for parts after writing dealer off and even traveling with the car on a flatbed for major service recently. I see the service guy that hadn't called me back and reintroduce myself Later that day, I get a call that they magically got in touch with the regional service rep and he said "fix it."

So color me super pleased. Nice to get a basically new clutch at 50K miles. It was worth the wait with my local VW service. Better late than never.

[dub*man]

That's awesome. VW won't budge with my partial coverage offer (and i'm pretty sure it's expired now since the 30 day window has passed)

I'm at 40k

Too bad for me

[BoyBlunder99]

That's awesome. VW won't budge with my partial coverage offer (and i'm pretty sure it's expired now since the 30 day window has passed)

I'm at 40k

Too bad for me

I'm in this exact boat. Super frustrating, even with the TSB. 46k miles, and not covered under power train warranty.

[gsprobe]

Any updates to this? Or have all the clutches been fixed?

[dcbc]

Mine was fixed on Tuesday. No more noise. Clutch feels great!

[ahflam]

So from reading all the pages, it appears that if the problem arises for 2010+ cars there is a pretty good chance that it'll be fixed by the dealer.

Curious if anyone with an 08.5-09 one has had this problem diagnosed and fixed by dealer under warranty. I am still under warranty until March and my 09 just started to hoot recently but only on really cold mornings (mornings cold enough with frost on the lawn) but its fine one its warm.

Thanks!

[dcbc]

So from reading all the pages, it appears that if the problem arises for 2010+ cars there is a pretty good chance that it'll be fixed by the dealer.

Curious if anyone with an 08.5-09 one has had this problem diagnosed and fixed by dealer under warranty. I am still under warranty until March and my 09 just started to hoot recently but only on really cold mornings (mornings cold enough with frost on the lawn) but its fine one its warm.

Thanks!

Cold mornings is when it is most common. If you're still under the 36K mile warranty, it should be covered. If you're talking about the powertrain warranty, from what I have been told, coverage is less likely. Mine was a unique situation of getting forgotten by a service writer and regional rep for about two months, then politely asking why they had forgotten about me. Goodwill kicked in, and my clutch was replaced.

[ahflam]

Cold mornings is when it is most common. If you're still under the 36K mile warranty, it should be covered. If you're talking about the powertrain warranty, from what I have been told, coverage is less likely. Mine was a unique situation of getting forgotten by a service writer and regional rep for about two months, then politely asking why they had forgotten about me. Goodwill kicked in, and my clutch was replaced.

Thanks dcbc,

I think I am under the 4 Year/80k KM basic warranty and 5 Year/100k KM powertrain warranty so hopefully I can get this fixed. I'll take it into the dealer next week once I video it since its warmed up the past 2 days and see if anything can be done!

[ina04gli1.8t]

My GTI made this sound when it was new but got louder after stg.1 & Carbonio intake. I did software & intake at 1000 miles. Now at 9500 miles a year latter & a lot of upgrades, the sound is no longer present. I have a SB stg.2 endurance clutch but haven't had to install it yet.

[jem286]

ya i have a 2012 with 30k on it. Was getting the noise last week. Took it in only had the car 5 days my dealer is replacing the clutch kit and the tbo at no cost to me thanks for some of the info in this thread....

on another note the loner is a 2013 outback 2.5i its killing me

[catch954]

i have an 09 cc 6sp.. my car is doing the same out of first gear, hard to get out and it does howl, screach. its driving me crazy. can you please tell me what dealer you went to, i also live on long island, thank you, fred

[catch954]

my previous message iis for ding/chavez,