Honda engine into MK2 chassis

[HagbardCeline]

Less bull**** like ^^ and more actual knowledge/info would be nice. Or we could all just lay our cocks on the collective slab and bust out a yardstick.

[B4S]

But VAG BOUGHT those exotic makes...not built them...

Also, I feel obliged to mention that.you're comparing boosted engines to NA, so your nutswinging isn't completely correct. Also, you are comparing limited edition engines to everyday production ones.

Honda isn't jealous of VAG, lol. Dude, just because you looooooooove VW, doesn't mean you have to be blind.

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

WRONG what hes saying is by spending 100 for a 2l motor(did it today) and spending 600 for an AEB motor(did it today so eat me) and you put them together( with these 2 engine you have everything needed to create a 20/20(did it today so eat me). change the turbo to FWD turbo and mk4 exhaust mani and intake mani for less than 200 (lets keep count, thats 900), buy a g60 tranny for 250 shipped (did this a couple months ago so eat me) and misc other factory vw pieces (did this recently) you will have a motor that will put out MORE hp than the baddest stock b-series motor money can buy, AND twice the torque. all for about the same price or less than a b-series motor and i dare you to challenge me to provide proof....ill have you looking at 1xxhp b18c5's and 2xx+hp 1.8t's...not even 20/20's


hondas dont break remember? who ever thinks about replacing honda parts hahaha hondas the unbreakable entity



watch your mouth..VWAG is a huge auto group and make better engines than honda could ever dream of making. you can frind proof when you have enough money to afford one of these various high performance vehicle that VWAG manufactures. Lambo's, RS6's, Bugattis, just to name a few...fiind me a honda motor (ANY HONDA MADE MOTOR) that can put out as much hp on factory equipment as say aaaaaa...... rs6 v8TT..lol..cant find one? better start looking in the F1 section of honda production plants hahahahha..and even there, with a simple tune, exhaust and an intake, the v8TT reigns supreme over honda F1 motors...and lets not forget to again mention, rs6 has all factory equipment lol. VWAG is an engineering marvel that honda can only dream to be like. seriously theres no end to the ways that VW ENGINES, and itself as a company, stand head and shoulders over honda.... **** 100hp/liter, if i want that ill go to BMW! vw is smart and uses these lil tiny turbos to help create power. the end all be all, you do this swap and ill still beat you for less money, and time put into my swap!


couldnt have said it better myself! hahaha. **** it..just put an s85 motor into it..thats a waaaaaaay better engine than a k20 haha.

Relax fella. I suppose you got a new waterpump, timing belt/tensioner, head studs, gaskets, etc., etc. FOR FREE?? You left out a lot of $$$ in hardware bud.. just sayin..

I really don't understand your animosity towards someone swapping another manufacturers engine into a VW. Its the same hot rod formula used FOREVER to go fast.

32 Ford coupe with...

...Ford 9" rear

...4 speed muncie sourced from a GM muscle car

...a supercharger canibalized from a 1950's GMC semi truck

...427 hemi sourced from a Chrysler land yaught

...custom cut and welded driveshaft.

All assembled to create the classic hot rod..



Honda engine into a VW .. I don't see the issue

[K.M.A.S.W.]

Relax fella. I suppose you got a new waterpump, timing belt/tensioner, head studs, gaskets, etc., etc. FOR FREE?? You left out a lot of $$$ in hardware bud.. just sayin..


Honda engine into a VW .. I don't see the issue

first off if your read properly i bought 2 engines...they are complete...why would i need a w/p,timing ****, or anything else? waaait preventative maintenance right? so why dont we incorperate that into his honda build? throw in a vtec solenoid for him cuz they always leak, throw in a vtec controller because its a must have for a modified honda, throw in a dizzy, throw in an IAC because they are always bad, TB, W/P, throw in everything he needs to run coolant through the motor(custom hoses)...shall i continue? the only thing that would be a necessity in my swap would be new headbolts and headgasket(and if you really want to cut corners, ive seen ppl re-use both of these items..and i kno there are tons of ppl on vortex who can attest to that). so a huge $80 that needs to be spent on hardware..whoa what an expense!lol bro your talking to someone who HAS DONE THIS SWAP ALREADY! and is in the midst of doing a 1.8t into a mk...an even easier swap. mounts,brackets,coolant system,d/p,shift mechanism/method, axles,ecu,wiring can all be sourced from some factory vw that is not hard to find or can be sourced from the donor car itself if you got it with a motor in it. and if you added up the prices, it only adds up to 1150...incase you didnt know.. GSR's run from 1300 all the way up to 4k..just for the motor! dude from a money aspect its a NO BRAINER..the math doesnt lie.and if you dont believe me..i literally am days away from completing my second hybrid swap of this nature and can post paypal reciepts,online buying receipts and picture prof that its in the car already lol. i dont care if the O/P wants to put a honda motor into whatever..**** if he wants to ill help him source a 3cyl geo motor and throw in there...to each his own.i dont care what he wants to do with his money. what i do care about is when someone trys to bash vw or act like honda motors are all powerful and vw motors are under the dirt...so i made my point: with some research, less money than it takes to buy and mount a honda swap, some factory vw parts, and some time, you can have a better,faster,more reliable, and more mechanically practical car...but the honda swapped vw will definitely be more unique...

and do me a favor... next time you feel like "just sayin" something.. dont assume that, because i have a low post count, i havent been doing this for a while and dont know what im talking about.

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

first off if your read properly i bought 2 engines...they are complete...why would i need a w/p,timing ****, or anything else? waaait preventative maintenance right? so why dont we incorperate that into his honda build? throw in a vtec solenoid for him cuz they always leak, throw in a vtec controller because its a must have for a modified honda, throw in a dizzy, throw in an IAC because they are always bad, TB, W/P, throw in everything he needs to run coolant through the motor(custom hoses)...shall i continue? the only thing that would be a necessity in my swap would be new headbolts and headgasket(and if you really want to cut corners, ive seen ppl re-use both of these items..and i kno there are tons of ppl on vortex who can attest to that). so a huge $80 that needs to be spent on hardware..whoa what an expense!lol bro your talking to someone who HAS DONE THIS SWAP ALREADY! and is in the midst of doing a 1.8t into a mk...an even easier swap. mounts,brackets,coolant system,d/p,shift mechanism/method, axles,ecu,wiring can all be sourced from some factory vw that is not hard to find or can be sourced from the donor car itself if you got it with a motor in it. and if you added up the prices, it only adds up to 1150...incase you didnt know.. GSR's run from 1300 all the way up to 4k..just for the motor! dude from a money aspect its a NO BRAINER..the math doesnt lie.and if you dont believe me..i literally am days away from completing my second hybrid swap of this nature and can post paypal reciepts,online buying receipts and picture prof that its in the car already lol. i dont care if the O/P wants to put a honda motor into whatever..**** if he wants to ill help him source a 3cyl geo motor and throw in there...to each his own.i dont care what he wants to do with his money. what i do care about is when someone trys to bash vw or act like honda motors are all powerful and vw motors are under the dirt...so i made my point: with some research, less money than it takes to buy and mount a honda swap, some factory vw parts, and some time, you can have a better,faster,more reliable, and more mechanically practical car...but the honda swapped vw will definitely be more unique...

and do me a favor... next time you feel like "just sayin" something.. dont assume that, because i have a low post count, i havent been doing this for a while and dont know what im talking about.

And.. Don't assume because my join date on here says 2008; that I don't know what im talking about. FWIW I was horse trading engines in mk2's back in 95-97 before these forums even existed for support.

I NEVER patronized you in my statement; so please give me the same courtesy bro.

All I said is that you left out a lot of $$ in your impromptu budget/rant; assuming that you follow normal assembly protocol for a 1.8t; which entails replacing the timing belt, tensioned, water pump, head gasket, and new factory stretch bolts.

Yes YOU CAN reuse that stuff, but I wouldn't recommend it. In fact I truly dont understand the logic behind doing a 20/20 build without doing a minimum of upgraded connecting rods to sustain a BT setup; as a 20/20 is essentially pointless on a stock Turbo. You will gain maybe 10 HP by the displacement increase on a 1.8t. 20/20's are built to spool a BT with less lag. A stock k03s has zero lag on stock displacement. A better tune can more than make up for increased displacement.

Have you budgeted a good tune into your build? I don't remember; as I've read your thread. Again.. im being civil, and unpatronizing in this dissertation.

Just voicing my questions, and opinions in a public forun

[speeding-g6O]

i personally like the idea, myself. i know i know. i just joined recently, have a low post count, and dont really know much about fast cars and stuff.

car customizing for the sake of DOING it far outweighs what people on some sh!tbag car forum think about the end result. if it aint yours, dont worry about it.

and just cuz its like me to stir it up, i saw this the other day and respect the hell out of it, too.

CRX with a VR6. CR6?? VRX??

[vento86]

I bet that thing hauls ass

[K.M.A.S.W.]

All I said is that you left out a lot of $$ in your impromptu budget/rant; assuming that you follow normal assembly protocol for a 1.8t; which entails replacing the timing belt, tensioned, water pump, head gasket, and new factory stretch bolts.

Yes YOU CAN reuse that stuff, but I wouldn't recommend it. In fact I truly dont understand the logic behind doing a 20/20 build without doing a minimum of upgraded connecting rods to sustain a BT setup; as a 20/20 is essentially pointless on a stock Turbo. You will gain maybe 10 HP by the displacement increase on a 1.8t. 20/20's are built to spool a BT with less lag. A stock k03s has zero lag on stock displacement. A better tune can more than make up for increased displacement.

Have you budgeted a good tune into your build? I don't remember; as I've read your thread. Again.. im being civil, and unpatronizing in this dissertation.

dont need a tune, just an immo defeat really. also again i say, everything you list that i "should" do.."should" also be done by the guy wanting to put a honda motor into a vw. and there is nothing wrong with having a 20/20 with stock turbo and internals..not everybody builds a car to go big turbo or have 9707 hp..i certainly didnt..i just want something good on gas and relatively fun, it just so happens that what i put into my car has more hp and torque than the honda swap and costs less..that remains true

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

dont need a tune, just an immo defeat really. also again i say, everything you list that i "should" do.."should" also be done by the guy wanting to put a honda motor into a vw. and there is nothing wrong with having a 20/20 with stock turbo and internals..not everybody builds a car to go big turbo or have 9707 hp..i certainly didnt..i just want something good on gas and relatively fun, it just so happens that what i put into my car has more hp and torque than the honda swap and costs less..that remains true

A 20/20 1.8t without a proper tune is a total waste. Don't wish to go BT? So be it..

You'd make more power, and torque on a stock 1.8t with a tune; than you will make with an untuned 20/20..

You love to argue; unfortunately the more you argue, the more apparent it is that you know NOTHING about 1.8t's.

[ps2375]

...426 hemi sourced from a Chrysler land yacht

fixed, 427 was a ford and chevy displacements,,,,,

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

fixed, 427 was a ford and chevy displacements,,,,,

You didn't fix schit. The CHRYSLER 427 hemi is one of the most well known powerhouses of all time.

I grew up with a stepfather that was a top fuel funny car pilot, and engine builder. I know my schit pal. The first time I turned a wrench on a CHRYSLER 427 hemi was in 1982.

You have no business correcting any of my statements.

[ps2375]

when was it ever "427", I've always known them as "426".

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

when was it ever "427", I've always known them as "426".

They were sold as both...

[ps2375]

never seen them referred to as 427ci.

[K.M.A.S.W.]

A 20/20 1.8t without a proper tune is a total waste. Don't wish to go BT? So be it..

You'd make more power, and torque on a stock 1.8t with a tune; than you will make with an untuned 20/20..

You love to argue; unfortunately the more you argue, the more apparent it is that you know NOTHING about 1.8t's.

ok first off i agree that an untuned 20/20 is a waste but i did not say i would keep it untuned..i was strictly talking about whats needed to get it running..jeeze it sounds like you only care about numbers lol. who ever does a 20/20 swap with tuning it is not very smart if you ask me but to each is own..maybe they didnt have enough money fr a tune...maybe they were on a strict budget just to get it runing in the car...with an untuned 20/20 it will still run and drive just fie, get great gas mileage, and be faster than a factory aba..this is all win if you ask me.lol but w/e mr i have a bagillion posts and have been dubbing since i was in diapers lol...obviously that means that other peoples points hold not a hair of validity to your arguments lol yea right. if you read my previous posts, i put a 1.8t into my car and am putting a 20/20 into a friends car. he is tuning it with gonzo tuning..both cars will still beat the OP honda and be less money. i have stuck to that point and you have done nothing but sidestep it so ill say it again. WITH LESS MONEY YOU CAN PUT A MOTOR THAT IS JUST AS CAPABLE OR MORE THAN A HONDA B/K/H/F SERIES. WITH EQUALING OUT BUDGETS, MORE HP AND TORQUE CAN BE ACHIEVED EASILY WITH A 1.8T,2.0/20v go kicks rocks lol..,your obviously just say random information about the 2 motors to make it look like i dont know what im talking about..but the truth is your not even giving a valid argument against what im saying lol read what i typed in bold above and if you have a VALID arguement to negate any of my point..shut up and go back to trading motors via horse or whatever the hell it is you do..

[K.M.A.S.W.]

and what car/truck did this "427" made by chrylser come in? only thing i ever heard of was a pontiac 427 hemi..and that never actually came to be

[B4S]

This thread was intelligent until the brand-elite started posting.

Too bad

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

ok first off i agree that an untuned 20/20 is a waste but i did not say i would keep it untuned..i was strictly talking about whats needed to get it running..jeeze it sounds like you only care about numbers lol. who ever does a 20/20 swap with tuning it is not very smart if you ask me but to each is own..maybe they didnt have enough money fr a tune...maybe they were on a strict budget just to get it runing in the car...with an untuned 20/20 it will still run and drive just fie, get great gas mileage, and be faster than a factory aba..this is all win if you ask me.lol but w/e mr i have a bagillion posts and have been dubbing since i was in diapers lol...obviously that means that other peoples points hold not a hair of validity to your arguments lol yea right. if you read my previous posts, i put a 1.8t into my car and am putting a 20/20 into a friends car. he is tuning it with gonzo tuning..both cars will still beat the OP honda and be less money. i have stuck to that point and you have done nothing but sidestep it so ill say it again. WITH LESS MONEY YOU CAN PUT A MOTOR THAT IS JUST AS CAPABLE OR MORE THAN A HONDA B/K/H/F SERIES. WITH EQUALING OUT BUDGETS, MORE HP AND TORQUE CAN BE ACHIEVED EASILY WITH A 1.8T,2.0/20v go kicks rocks lol..,your obviously just say random information about the 2 motors to make it look like i dont know what im talking about..but the truth is your not even giving a valid argument against what im saying lol read what i typed in bold above and if you have a VALID arguement to negate any of my point..shut up and go back to trading motors via horse or whatever the hell it is you do..

No.. my point is that your point is moot, assinine, and is cluttering an interesting thread.

Personally id prefer a 1.8t to a Honda swap as well; but that is not the POINT of this thread that you have belligerently derailed with YOUR OPINION.

Jesus Christ man

[K.M.A.S.W.]

i think i have a right to let the OP know that financially ts better to stick with a vw engine..he was only "throwing the idea around" ..its my opinion. its stayed the same, not cluttered. and whats up with that 427 chrysler motor..you can pm me the details on that to not further derail this thread lol just say it doesnt exist and me and the other guy will be happy..and if you were turning wrenches in 82..would make you not too far from middle aged(if your not already there)..dont you have a ferrari to go buy or something? or a garden to go perfect? lolyou literally put meaning to your name hahah...your probably getting cenile so you couldnt remember my arguement lol.

[HagbardCeline]

if you were turning wrenches in 82..would make you not too far from middle aged(if your not already there)..dont you have a ferrari to go buy or something? or a garden to go perfect? lolyou literally put meaning to your name hahah...your probably getting cenile so you couldnt remember my arguement lol.

What a dick.

[B4S]

I get the idea that the swap isn't about getting the most power for his dollar. So your fervent ranting is probably falling on deaf ears, and irritating the rest of us.

[K.M.A.S.W.]

but to keep the thread on topic. if your doing this honda swap..i would do a poor mans type-r. GSR block with type-r pistons, ported b16 head with a wicked set of cams..if you can find toda VTEC killers that would be nice..or skunk2's.get a really nice clutch setup, then do a b16 tranny and an LS 4th and 5th. with that package you'll have a sweet motor! a friend of mine did this and that **** was nasty! in his gsr teg me and him were neck and neck all the way until about 100mph..then my other 2 cylinders made there presence known lol. i was in VR with intake, 2.9 clone mani, autotech tune, autotech catback, testpipe, no ps, no a/c, and a nice clutch kit. i was surprised..but much of it had to do with his gearing..at 105 i shifted into 4th while he was almost at the top of 4th and he was revving to 9200rpm everytime. that car was no slouch. if you do it it will be very unique and take alot of dubbers by surprise..ofcourse a uy like me is ready for that tho

[K.M.A.S.W.]

What a dick.

yes i know...lol

I get the idea that the swap isn't about getting the most power for his dollar. So your fervent ranting is probably falling on deaf ears, and irritating the rest of us.

boo hoo..read my last post..all on topic!

[K.M.A.S.W.]

or you can do an H2B and call it a day

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

What a dick.

Ehh.. yes I am damn near middle aged, and he is a douche

[Vegeta Gti]

Kmassdingleberry is just upset he is left out of the loop.


i wanna see progress dammit

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

Kmassdingleberry is just upset he is left out of the loop.


i wanna see progress dammit

O-Hai Chris!!

[speeding-g6O]

what exactly IS middle aged anyways?

i want to see ANY motor swap. i could give a rats fu(king ASS about the supposed VAG Purists here.

game recognizes game. and doing stuff at this level, no matter what the person DOING THE WORK CHOOSES, is still badass.

i may just put a Chev Sprint 3cyl motor in my MK1 GTI (that i have owned since 1990 may i add) just to piss people here off!

wanna know why? BECAUSE I CAN!

[Vegeta Gti]

heeeyyyyyyyyyy


A - DO IT!!


i have been wanting to do a Kseries something for awhile.

[HagbardCeline]

yes i know...lol

No, but seriously... eat a bowl of dicks.

[VR6DPLMT.]

Hey don't worry you have more than a few people on ClubRSX who support ya. I thin it's awesome that you are doing this. Even Need_a_VR6 admitted to a few times wanting to do a K20/24 Egg.

[vento86]

Man you people get too serious about something stupid like this.

On another note. I ate pizza and it made me poop

[K.M.A.S.W.]

No, but seriously... eat a bowl of dicks.

that would be gay and cannibalistic at the same time lol.

but on the car not..i love the sound of a b-series

[VR6DPLMT.]

More updates on this bad ass project. Bollocks to the haters. I'd love to do this but with a k20/24 combo. Hondata Kpro, SSR or Hytech header, Blue print stg. 2 cams, Hondata img, decent gutted manifold, 3" exhaust and have a blast with it.

[speeding-g6O]

Caddy with aaaaaa.....