Racing Sailboats

[Spinnaker]

No need to burn gas to go fast, post em up!

[SomeRandomGuy]

I couldn't link it directly, but here's one I race on:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davedun...7624769857331/

That us racing at Annapolis Race Week. I'm the mainsheet trimmer standing in the cockpit.

[tip]

nice thread choice I'll make a quick post

I love the Volvo Ocean Race boats, so freaking badass:






I secretly lust over old IOR boats too:

[Spinnaker]

Volvo Ocean race is so bad ass. I would love to have one retrofitted as some sort of double handed blue water racer cruiser

[tip]

Volvo Ocean race is so bad ass. I would love to have one retrofitted as some sort of double handed blue water racer cruiser

yes! could you imagine being able to kill everything in a Pacific Cup or something? I would kill to crew on one though...

MAXZ86s (TransPac?) are f-ing sweet too, with canting keels (I think the Volvo Ocean rule boats do too)

[Spinnaker]

Schock 40's have canting ballast bulbs, and are apparently pretty fast:

The PHRF rating of -6 for wind-ward/leeward racing only begins to tell the story. I wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes, but this 40-foot displacement boat beat an 18-foot skiff (sailed by Howard Hamlin) to the second weather mark in 12 to 15 knots of breeze.

I used to race a Santana 20 (a Schock boat) in Puget sound during the SOCKS regatta, Tom Schock showed up for a few races . . . and spanked us haha.

[SomeRandomGuy]

PHRF of -6! Wow...

The boat I race on is like a 177.

[Spinnaker]

PHRF of -6! Wow...

The boat I race on is like a 177.

That's pretty sweet for a 40' monohull! My J24 also rates around 171, we did a distance race last year and there was a Santa Cruz 70 in the division before us, they used IRC ratings but his PHRF on the scratch sheet was -66

Needless to say we could only see him with binoculars until he vanished after dark.

[SomeRandomGuy]

My J24 also rates around 171, we did a distance race last year and there was a Santa Cruz 70 in the division before us, they used IRC ratings but his PHRF on the scratch sheet was -66

We are constantly competing against (read: losing to) a J/24 in our PHRF A fleet. It's very frustrating. The Beneteau First 305 I'm on is such a heavy boat by comparison... we lose a ton of time on every tack compared to them.

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I've got you both beat, my boat rates 216

That's the first I've heard of the Shock 40, looks badass. I've always loved the 35.

Speaking of a SC70, I really want a Santa Cruz 27 (rates around 132). A pretty good sized fleet has been forming up here in the Puget Sound. There was one for sale for like $9000 w/ a trailer a few weeks back, sucks I don't have the $. Two 21 y/o just took 2nd in last year's Pacific Cup sailing one.

[337GTiAndrew]

We are constantly competing against (read: losing to) a J/24 in our PHRF A fleet. It's very frustrating. The Beneteau First 305 I'm on is such a heavy boat by comparison... we lose a ton of time on every tack compared to them.

Try racing PHRF against a C-22 with a Melges 24

[SomeRandomGuy]

Try racing PHRF against a C-22 with a Melges 24

What's that, like 280 vs 100? Cripes. Shouldn't even be in the same fleet.

At my club, we divided into PHRF A and PHRF B, with 200 being the dividing line. Keeps all the slow-ass cruiser riff-raff out of the way of the *real* racers.

[337GTiAndrew]

What's that, like 280 vs 100? Cripes. Shouldn't even be in the same fleet.

At my club, we divided into PHRF A and PHRF B, with 200 being the dividing line. Keeps all the slow-ass cruiser riff-raff out of the way of the *real* racers.

93 and 270 and just one class in local beer can racing

[SomeRandomGuy]

93 and 270 and just one class in local beer can racing

Heh. Realize that my comment about the cruiser riff-raff is totally tongue-in-cheek... Our club is very much "beer-can" oriented. No blue blazers and brass buttons for us. We're ALL riff-raff.

We keep changing the start order of the two fleets... every time, someone is pissed off because either the A fleet is trampling through the B fleet that already started, or the B fleet is in the way while the A fleet is trying to come back from the windward mark, because the Bs started second.

Annapolis Race Week was awesome this year. We managed to completely destroy a spinnaker in gusty winds. Now my captain wants to do Annapolis to Newport this summer.

[Spinnaker]

93 and 270 and just one class in local beer can racing

LOL! If you can see him he's beating you. That's a non-spinnaker division I assume?

[Spinnaker]

Balls, these guys have them

Iceboats can sail as close as 7 degrees off the apparent wind

Modern designs of iceboats are very efficient, utilizing aerodynamic designs and low friction, and can achieve speeds as high as ten times the wind speed in good conditions. International DN iceboats often achieve speeds of 48 knots (89 km/h; 55 mph) while racing, and speeds as high as 59 knots (109 km/h; 68 mph) have been recorded.[3] Skeeters and older large stern-steerer iceboats can exceed 90 knots (170 km/h; 100 mph). The rumored, but unconfirmed, top speed of an iceboat is over 130 knots (240 km/h; 150 mph). One reference to a timed run on Lake Geneva, Wisconsin reported an "E-Skeeter" as having reached 137 knots (254 km/h; 158 mph). The same reference reported clocking a DN 60 iceboat on a closed course over black ice on Green Bay, Wisconsin at 94 knots (174 km/h; 108 mph). The stern-steerer Debutaunte, recently rebuilt, was timed over a measured mile at 124 knots (230 km/h; 143 mph) on the ice of Lake Winnebago, Wisconsin in 1938.

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awesome video... Oracle "mini" AC45 out for a run:

[naturaldub]

[337GTiAndrew]

I need to get back on the water!

[Spinnaker]

I need to get back on the water!

You're in South Florida!

Sometimes I just go to look at the boat in the shrink wrap

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I have a friend that was really big into this. Maybe I can get him into this thread to post some pics.

[omgwtfbbq!]

Can't find any pics of the boat we bought to replace this one, but when I was younger I raced a J24 with my step-dad after stepping up out of optis. Mainly did fore-deck work, but also trimmed as necessary since we couldn't ever keep the boat crewed (the reason we bought the Ultimate 20 to replace it). We mainly did thursday night beer-can racing, but we couldn't compete with the Melges 24s in perf and consistently stomped the only other U20 in the fleet.

All these (except the first one) were taken during the same regatta out of the Davis Island Yacht Club in Tampa.

Leaving the dock


sailing to the starting line


Rounding the windward mark on the first go around


Second windward leg


Wind dropped to 4 knots, rounding the windward mark for the last time


Then some magic happened and we passed everyone, ended up winning by about a boat length, our first regatta win and first win on the J


I know its not the VOR or the Team Orange tri-maran, but I had a lot of fun, wish I had a good club to race with here in Daytona.

[naturaldub]

Can't find any pics of the boat we bought to replace this one, but when I was younger I raced a J24 with my step-dad after stepping up out of optis. Mainly did fore-deck work, but also trimmed as necessary since we couldn't ever keep the boat crewed (the reason we bought the Ultimate 20 to replace it). We mainly did thursday night beer-can racing, but we couldn't compete with the Melges 24s in perf and consistently stomped the only other U20 in the fleet.


I know its not the VOR or the Team Orange tri-maran, but I had a lot of fun, wish I had a good club to race with here in Daytona.

Nice pics!! Beer-can racing is the best, I sail on a J-24 in the summer for our wednesday night races, real good fun.

[rpmk4]

seems like alot of work for some relaxation some cool boats in here

[SomeRandomGuy]

seems like alot of work for some relaxation some cool boats in here

The racing part isn't relaxing at all. In fact, it can be quite stressful, especially in heavy air when a lot can happen very quickly.

It's all the drinking afterwards that helps us relax.

[Spinnaker]

It's all the drinking afterwards that helps us relax.

We drink during, take our beer can racing seriously!

[SomeRandomGuy]

We drink during, take our beer can racing seriously!

Some of the guys in the B fleet like to drink while racing. I don't like to until afterwards. Things happen a little too quickly sometimes, and we've (the fleet, not my boat) had some pretty bad collisions on the river.

[Bullitt_TDI]

high school I did PHRF B out of Annapolis.

Sr year and college I raced J/30s

Mid 20s Mumm/farr 30.

[Johnny Carcinogen]

This thread is literally making me salivate for the start of Wednesday night racing.

I do foredeck on a C&C 115 out of the West River in MD. There's nothing quite like it

[Spinnaker]

I do foredeck on a C&C 115 out of the West River in MD. There's nothing quite like it

I love foredeck, however at 6'2" 200 am more suited for the pit, or rail meat (which I don't mind either).

[naturaldub]

I love foredeck, however at 6'2" 200 am more suited for the pit, or rail meat (which I don't mind either).

The more I read back and forth with your posts I am starting to think we're the same person as I am also 6'2 200 and am often pit, moreso rail meat

[Johnny Carcinogen]

I love foredeck, however at 6'2" 200 am more suited for the pit, or rail meat (which I don't mind either).

Hey now, I'm 6'1" 180, not some waif dancing about on the bow

Somehow I got volunteered to do foredeck after my first season. I believe it came down to being able to ignore repeated shouts of "IS IT MADE??? IS IT MADE?!?" and just do the gybes. Being able to switch a #1 jenny for a #2, only to have the wind die seems to be my speciality as well.

Come on spring, I can't wait to get back out there! If any of you guys are going to be in the Galesville/Shady Side area drop me a line.

[Johnny Carcinogen]

Volvo Ocean race is so bad ass. I would love to have one retrofitted as some sort of double handed blue water racer cruiser

Can somebody explain why :58 would ever be necessary? Lost guy perhaps?

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skied halyard?

[Spinnaker]

The more I read back and forth with your posts I am starting to think we're the same person as I am also 6'2 200 and am often pit, moreso rail meat

I will always take an active role if possible, but is someone needs moveable ballast on a Farr 40 I'm not saying no.

Can somebody explain why :58 would ever be necessary? Lost guy perhaps?

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