nice move. If anyone can figure out a fix its the genius guys at ross-tech.
#1
x-posted from the MKVI forum -- has anyone been able to successfully change the default volume on the BT voice prompts?
I got my VCDS cable from Ross-Tech the other day and have been playing around making all the usual updates.
One thing I'd really like to do however, is change the default volume of the voice dialing prompts on the 9W7 bluetooth module. I did see a post or two mentioning this, and in 77-telephone adaptation there is a channel called "Base Volume of Speech Output." The default value is "4.76837e-007 db" (basically, 0), and I was able to change this to different values. I tried -2, -3, and -6, and although the coding was accepted, there does not seem to be any difference in the volume.
Just wondering if anyone has been able to successfully change the speech volume, or if there is a different/additional setting I need to make in order for it to take effect.
TIA!
To clarify: yes, you can change the prompt volume with the in-car volume controls, but the problem is that the voice prompts and the call volume are tied to the same control. What ends up happening is that you have to turn the volume down during voice prompts (so you don't break your eardrums), then you have to quickly turn it up when the call connects. Call volume on the phone itself (Moto Droid) is maxed.
#3
There are two separate adaptation channels, one for each volume, but for the life of me, can't get the volume for the voice commands to behave. I set it lower and it will only stay lower for the current session. Once the car is turned off and back on the volume raises again, but the stored value remains the same. i gave up after many attempts.
#4
#5
I have it set at -6 db and it is perfect... until I turn it off and on. I even tried setting the BT audio higher so that they would be closer to balanced and then I could just turn it down at the radio, but oh no, that setting is at max already. This is a no win situation at this time unless someone can figure out the voodoo.
#6
#7
This was an issue for shawng:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-coding-needed
I retrofitted that module and I don't have any functionality concerns with it. Some modules will default adaptation values after the diagnostic session has ended. My 9W2 (base phone module) was like that in a few channels. Some radios will do the same and adaptation is only for diagnosis.
Bump this back up with a complete Auto-Scan after the weekend and we can compare notes and adaptation values.
I primarily use a Droid 2 with this module. Unlike the old 9W2 phone module, it can't seem to sync 2 phones at one time?
#9
Here's my autoscan; thanks for looking into this.
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.3
Data version: 20101206
Sunday,23,January,2011,15:17:43:01124
Chassis Type: 7N0
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2B 2E 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56
62 72 77
VIN: WVWGV7AJ0BW045634
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CCT) Labels: 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AP HW: 1K0 907 115 AA
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0020
Revision: AAH17--- Serial number:
Coding: 0403010A18070160
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 74C90B656E3D
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BC HW: 1K0 907 379 BC
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H30 0106
Revision: 00H30001
Coding: 114B600C492600FF881106E7921D0041B70800
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 74C90B656E3D
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518) Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 HW: 5K0 959 434
Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 082 0707
Revision: 00082000 Serial number: 0000000000
Coding: 030C0C
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP A01010
ROD: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP_VW36.rod
VCID: F2C58D7D9429
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels: 3C8-907-336.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 907 336 AJ HW: 3C8 907 336 AJ
Component: Climatic H14 0305
Revision: 00009001
Coding: 0000001002
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
ROD: EV_Climatic_VW36.rod
VCID: 75CF36616547
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 L HW: 1K0 937 087 L
Component: BCM PQ35 H 104 0615
Revision: 00104 AE
Coding: 6D180A3A80272AC41088008174008F84402D0086574D8DF064 802020A040
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3A55E55D0CD9
Part No: 1K1 955 119 F
Component: Wischer 30061 21 0512
Coding: 009795
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 B HW: 5K0 959 655 B
Component: AirbagVW10G 021 0706
Serial number: 003C4R00LYM.
Coding: 00003031
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01012
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360_VW36.rod
VCID: 3957FA5109DF
Seat occupied recognition:
Part No SW: 5K0 959 339 HW: 5K0 959 339
Component: BF-Gewichtss. 007 0002
Serial number: ---0000R--0005881J00
Driver's Airbag Crash Sensor:
Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V H01 ----
Serial number: 3572MSME33037552ZZZL
Passenger Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Beif.V H01 ----
Serial number: 3582MSME34472454ZZZR
Driver's Rear Airbag Crash Sensor:
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H --- ----
Serial number: 3512QSME10076452ZZZG
Passenger's Rear Airbag Crash Sensor:
Component: S.Sens.Beif.H --- ----
Serial number: 3522QSME08265A22ZZZR
Driver's Front Airbag Crash Sensor:
Component: F.Sens.Fahr --- ----
Serial number: 35527SME0A1D0323ZZZ8
Passenger's Front Airbag Crash Sensor:
Component: F.Sens.Beif --- ----
Serial number: 35627SME15656022ZZZ4
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BR HW: 5K0 953 569 E
Component: LENKS.MODUL 009 0135
Revision: FF010036 Serial number: 20100701100382
Coding: 100A140000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS A01004
ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS_VW36.rod
VCID: 7DDF2E415D77
MFL:
Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 HW: 5K0 959 542
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H05 0010
Coding: 820000
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 5K6 920 971 C HW: 5K6 920 971 C
Component: KOMBI H04 0406
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 270D01
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod
VCID: 354FF66125C7
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H27 0602
Revision: H27 Serial number: 300610F2000772
Coding: E9817F0650061203000002
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: EDFF9E018D17
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0406
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000007
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod
VCID: EAF5951DBCF9
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764) Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 HW: 5K0 905 861
Component: ELV-PQ35 018 0100
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 10000115186002
Coding: 0100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquVW360UDS A01003
ROD: EV_ELVMarquVW360UDS_VW36.rod
VCID: EDFF9E018D17
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C HW: 5N0 035 342 C
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7668233083
Coding: 020000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 27732C29EF6B
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J794) Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 HW: 1K0 035 274
Component: RNS315-NAR H03 0007
Serial number: VWZAZ2K8404850
Coding: 040500210100000000001000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315VWNARV1UDS A01005
ROD: EV_RNS315VWNARV1UDS.rod
VCID: E1E7F23141CF
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 D HW: 5K0 959 701 D
Component: Tuer-SG 009 2151
Coding: 0001204
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 334BC8792BB3
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74 3001
Revision: 00H17000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3147C271D1AF
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System (R12) Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 035 456 HW: 5K0 035 456
Component: KonzernAmp 8K H06
Revision: -------- Serial number: BP218109098519
ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1 A01003
ROD: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1_VW36.rod
VCID: E7F3EC29AFEB
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 B HW: 5K0 959 702 B
Component: Tuer-SG 009 2119
Coding: 0001204
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3245CD7DD4A9
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 5M0-907-357-A.lbl
Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C HW: 5M0 907 357 C
Component: AFS-Steuergeraet 0142
Revision: 00H04000 Serial number:
Coding: 1446940
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3449CB652EBD
Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l 0004
Coding: 00000022
Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r 0004
Coding: 00000022
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 D HW: 5K0 959 703 D
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101
Coding: 0001168
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
VCID: 354FF66125C7
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 D HW: 5K0 959 704 D
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101
Coding: 0001168
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
VCID: 364DF16D38C1
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 C HW: 7P6 035 730 C
Component: TELEFON H05 0440
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007668359616
Coding: 0A00000000010100
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01007
ROD: UHVNA_VW36.rod
VCID: 3245CD7DD4A9
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
#10
Same coding as mine. Is there any way to get a report of all the adaptation channels.
#11
#12
#13
Just an FYI, it doesn't really seem to be a personal preference issue -- for folks that are having the issue it's like this -- basically, when you have your system volume set at a level where you can hear your phone calls, if you engage voice command, the volume is so deafeningly loud that people outside the car can hear it.
So, it sounds like your setup is not behaving that way.
#14
I personally have my BT phone in-call volume set at about 24 to hear the person very clearly. When I hit the voice control the lady comes on and is so freaking loud the speakers sound like they are gonna pop. If I turn the down the volume of the lady speaking to a normal level it will also turn down the in-call volume which then cannot be heard very well. It sounds like this is the same issue everyone is having.
11 mk6 gti APR KO4 12.0@119 GoAPR
#15
yup, that about sums up the issue.
@ Dana, it is -19C outside right now and while warmer in the garage, this will have to wait. I hope someone else can do this in a warmer locale.
#16
#17
bump.
just wondering if there is anything I can do to help with researching this issue?
#18
Sorry for the delay. Due to the winter season I'm a little limited on car/shop time as well.
My default was:
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/333...olumestock.png
I made a bunch of changes, ending with this last night:
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9...olumeafter.png
I locked the car overnight so I believe my summary is pretty accurate, ruling out a key or sleep cycle altering the results:
The volume of the voice command (spoken volume from the female voice) seems to have 2 settings.
1) When the radio is Off and the button is pressed I believe the adaptation value is accurate. After the adjustment ( reducing the channel value ) I can hardly hear her voice.
I don't normally press that button with the radio off and I will admit it was quite loud with default adaptation values.
2) When the radio is On the volume of the telephone controls the voice command and the actual volume of the calls. My observation is that I have the Minimum Telephone Volume settings in the RNS set near the 1/4 mark. Normally I turn down the Navi and Tele volume when I am finishing up a trip or phone call, so I never had a complaint in this area.
See if the RNS/RCD has a [Sound] button menu for Telephone volume. This seems to control the min start-up volume and increases the volume if the knob was turned below that setting. Ex: If I turn the volume off and the phone rings it starts at the 1/4 way mark I have selected there.I didn't try messing with this while driving, but I wouldn't doubt the speed sensitive volume (overall radio settings) would also change the telephone volume with vehicle speed.
#19
#20
#21
If you have different results let us know. I'm not calling that Correct or Fact so any comments or opinions are welcome. This is (most of) the car I'm using for these observations:
Saturday,05,February,2011,16:28:51:03064
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.3
Data version: 20101206
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56
62 72 77
VIN: WVWHD7AJ4AWxxxxxx
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 G HW: 1K0 937 087 G
Component: BCM PQ35 H+ 103 0576
Revision: 00103 AC
Coding: 6E180A3E90272AC40088008554008904413D1586434D8D6064 8020200000
VCID: 356A218D25C7
Part No: 1K1 955 119 E
Component: Wischer 30060 21 0501
Coding: 009795
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
Component: J0527 055 011
Coding: 0001832
VCID: 76E8E6817841
Part No: 5K0 959 542
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H05 0010
Coding: 00000131
Shop #: WSC 00000
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 5K6 920 970 G HW: 5K6 920 970 G
Component: KOMBI H05 0206
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 180F00
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod
VCID: 387428B932D5
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0112
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 230609F2001083
Coding: ED817F06501612000002
VCID: 69D2BDFD39FF
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 919 879 HW: 5N0 919 879
Component: Kompass 001 0001
Revision: 00001000 Serial number: 1225223T5Q6C04
Coding: 0000002
VCID: FEF87EA1D071
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 D HW: 5N0 035 342 B
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0140
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7667440739
Coding: 010000
VCID: 2854F8F9E275
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 C HW: 3C0 035 684
Component: RNS-MID H17 1040
Serial number: VWZ6Z7H9250052
Coding: 0C070000010000AE00
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 234EEFD59B53
1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System (R12) Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 035 456 HW: 5K0 035 456
Component: KonzernAmp 8K H06 0340
Revision: -------- Serial number: BP218198607632
ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1 A01003
ROD: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1_VW36.rod
VCID: E7D63BC5AFEB
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 C HW: 3C0 035 684
Component: RNS-MID H17 1040
Serial number: VWZ6Z7H9250052
Coding: 0C070000010000AE00
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 234EEFD59B53
1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 C HW: 7P6 035 730 C
Component: TELEFON H05 0440
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007668766339
Coding: 0200000000010100
ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01007
ROD: UHVNA_VW36.rod
VCID: 32601A91D4A9
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
#22
This remains the only thing that really bugs me about my car... the deafening volume of the BT lady. I assume no further discoveries have been made on how to separate the call volume from the voice control volume, but thought I would ping this thread just to see. TIA.![]()
2011 GTI / Autobahn / 4DR / 6MT
APR Stage 1 Tune / Carbonio CAI
#23
Unfortunately, the BT lady volume is just not adjustable independently of the telephone reception level. No one has found a working volume offset setting just for the BT lady.
Last edited by Mr.Timewise; 06-12-2012 at 03:14 PM.
2010 Jetta SE 2.5L Tiptronic Salsa Red
9W7 Bluetooth | RNS-510 | Homelink sun visor | Extendable passenger sun visor | MFSW w/ paddles | Hi-line SWCM | Hi-Line MFD+ instrument cluster | Auto-dimming inside rear view mirror w/ compass | Trunk lid open switch in grab handle | Silver lens tail lights | Front & rear door warning/puddle lights
#24
I have the same problem, I have used multiple phones from multiple os's (android, blackberry, and ios). I get the same results with every phone that I try. When the bluetooth volume on the phone is maxed out I have to have the car's volume 3/4 to max depending on how much noise is coming in from the outside of the car. If I have the car's volume up that high when the bluetooth lady comes on I cringe from the sounds the speakers make. I have already had to have 2 speakers replaced in my 11 JSW and I am convinced it is due to this issue as I never have the radio volume above 1/4. I just got my Ross-Tech cable yesterday so I am a bit hesitant to start messing with any of the coding right away on my own. If anyone has a fix to this i would GREATLY appreciate it! Thanks guys!