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    Thread: R32 (BJS) ignition coils on a 2.8?

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      01-25-2011 09:41 AM #1
      Has anyone ever successfully used ignition coils from an r32 3.2 VR on a 2.8 24v? I have an r32 motor that has fairly new coils in it and it would be great if they worked in the 2.8. Thanks

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      01-25-2011 11:52 AM #2
      I am pretty sure they are the same.
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      01-25-2011 12:05 PM #3
      A am more then pretty sure they're the same.
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      01-25-2011 12:09 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by need_a_VR6 View Post
      A am more then pretty sure they're the same.
      Yeah I agree, I am pretty sure they are the exact same part numbers.
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      01-25-2011 12:39 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by need_a_VR6 View Post
      A am more then pretty sure they're the same.
      So u are running BJS coils in a BDF motor?

      Everywhere i've looked shows a diff part number for the parts. but then again, the part number is their part number and not the VW part number....I don't wanna just install them and fry the ignition system u know. I wanna be absolutely sure.
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      01-25-2011 01:22 PM #6
      the different part # is probably because they are red
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      01-25-2011 03:46 PM #7
      Just the covers for the connectors are red.

      I've used these coils with the same driver on standalone with no issues. I know both have the same 200ohm signal to ground resistance.

      Run em.
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    8. 01-25-2011 04:02 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by JayJetta View Post
      So u are running BJS coils in a BDF motor?

      Everywhere i've looked shows a diff part number for the parts. but then again, the part number is their part number and not the VW part number....I don't wanna just install them and fry the ignition system u know. I wanna be absolutely sure.
      That's what I'm running on my BDF engine now without any issues. Bought them in the R32 classified. I'm sure you'll be fine running them

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      01-25-2011 04:43 PM #9
      I was waiting for a first hand account. Thanks!

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      01-25-2011 05:18 PM #10
      They will work
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      01-26-2011 04:45 PM #11
      Yeah the covers are separate and available on ECS in red, blue, and black.

      Other than that like said above, the coils are same.

      My car:


    12. 01-27-2011 10:37 AM #12
      Aren't R32 COP’s shorter, the R32 I have are shorter than the original 2.8(BDF) COP's. I’ll take a picture if I can.

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      01-27-2011 11:16 AM #13

      where did you get the cover for the wiring
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      01-27-2011 11:32 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by MarcoVR6SC View Post
      Aren't R32 COP’s shorter, the R32 I have are shorter than the original 2.8(BDF) COP's. I’ll take a picture if I can.
      I'm pulling one from each engine this weekend and comparing them before doing the work.
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      02-01-2011 12:13 PM #15
      NO....R32 coils will NOT work in a BDF. The R32's are 1/2 inch shorter than the BDF coils.

      I just replaced all of mine..GAP sent 2 R32 coils by accident. That's how I know!

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      02-01-2011 01:39 PM #16
      which is it?!? i gotta just pull'em already!

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      02-01-2011 03:05 PM #17
      Dude....I just told you they are different.

      If you want I can post up a pic of both to show you the difference in a little bit when I get home from work.

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      02-01-2011 09:33 PM #18
      Take pictures and post the part #'s.

      I have both cars..I run the same coils in each.

      The current part # for most updated coil is 022905715C
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      02-01-2011 11:32 PM #19
      Didn't touch the ignition coils today. i was busy putting these on.


      And i'll be flushing the brake fluid tomorrow and setting the coilover ride height. Thursday installing new exhaust and going to get an alignment friday. when she's all done i'll spend the day finding excuses to drive around with all my new goodies. I won't be able to take the pics of the ignition coils till saturday.

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      02-02-2011 01:09 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaglis View Post

      where did you get the cover for the wiring
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      02-02-2011 07:19 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      Take pictures and post the part #'s.

      I have both cars..I run the same coils in each.

      The current part # for most updated coil is 022905715C
      So, what your are saying is that you run R32 coils in your BDF...when in FACT...they are 1/2 shorter and are a completly different part #? I just installed all new coils...like i said earlier they had sent me 2 R32 coils by accident. The R32's misfired since they don't seat all the way down.

      If you don't think I know what I am talking about.....Call the Stealership....and ask them.

    22. 02-02-2011 01:11 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by *DUBZ* View Post
      So, what your are saying is that you run R32 coils in your BDF...when in FACT...they are 1/2 shorter and are a completly different part #? I just installed all new coils...like i said earlier they had sent me 2 R32 coils by accident. The R32's misfired since they don't seat all the way down.

      If you don't think I know what I am talking about.....Call the Stealership....and ask them.
      Weird, because I'm running R32 coils on my BDF as well and they work fine. I purchased mine from the R32 Classified. Never had any misfire code whatsoever.

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      02-02-2011 03:15 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by mitsui-g View Post
      Weird, because I'm running R32 coils on my BDF as well and they work fine. I purchased mine from the R32 Classified. Never had any misfire code whatsoever.
      Post up your part # for your said coils.

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      02-02-2011 03:58 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by *DUBZ* View Post

      If you don't think I know what I am talking about.....Call the Stealership....and ask them.


      What makes you think the kid at the dumbership knows what they are talking about any more than you do?

      I can simply go to my driveway and pull a coil from each car and post a pic... but you are the naysayer, so you get to do the work.
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      they are the same... 2.8 24v part # ends with a B
      3.2 24v part # ends with a C
      most current revision part #'s
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      02-03-2011 10:07 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      What makes you think the kid at the dumbership knows what they are talking about any more than you do?

      I can simply go to my driveway and pull a coil from each car and post a pic... but you are the naysayer, so you get to do the work.
      Alright man....I will pull a coil out of my car today and post up a pic side by side with the R32 coil to prove they are in fact different. 1/2 inch shorter.

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      02-03-2011 10:11 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaglis View Post
      they are the same... 2.8 24v part # ends with a B
      3.2 24v part # ends with a C
      most current revision part #'s
      I was told the opposite from GAP..... B is for 3.2. And C is for 2.8.

      just saying.....

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      02-03-2011 10:21 AM #28
      wrong... just had them in my hand
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      02-03-2011 10:28 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaglis View Post
      wrong... just had them in my hand
      My part number ends in C. So what you telling me is that I installed 3.2 coils in my 2.8?

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      02-03-2011 10:32 AM #30
      yea probably there the same thing.
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      02-03-2011 10:37 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaglis View Post
      yea probably there the same thing.
      But, there not the same. I know you must think im nuts....I didn't bump my head. I know for a fact one is 1/2 inch shorter than the other. I installed them.

      I will post a pic today when i get home from work.

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      02-03-2011 01:55 PM #32
      Heck the last time I replaced my coils (~2 years ago) the part number ended with like a K or something and I pulled G's out (I think). I thought the B/C coils were WAY old, unless they changed the part number entirely. I still have my old ones and can double check all of this, but they are all BDF coils anyways.
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      02-03-2011 02:41 PM #33
      The letter at the end is the revision letter, VW ran out of letters so a new part number was assigned to the new coilpacks. The same part # with a different letter at the end will look identical, length will be the same. The BDF and BJS would have to be different numbers entirely to be different. I had always thought that they were the same part number, maybe they gave you 3.6 VR6 coils that are shorter? The V is bigger so shorter makes sense...
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      02-03-2011 02:47 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by apstguy View Post
      The letter at the end is the revision letter, VW ran out of letters so a new part number was assigned to the new coilpacks.
      Ah, that's what I was thinking may have happened. Geez, that's crazy they went thru that many revisions!

      So: 022 905 715 C is the latest then Nice.
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      02-03-2011 03:43 PM #35
      Here ya go.

      The one on the left I just pulled from my 2.8. Obviously, the one on the right isn't the same.

      Side by side 2.8 "C" on left....3.2 on right "B"





      "C"


      "B" I know it hard to see...but that is a "B"




      Part #'s are as follows

      2.8 = 022-905-715-C

      3.2 = 022-905-715-B

      I also have the boxes they came in with the same exact part #'s.

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