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    Thread: Integrated Engineering Race Cams 119.2hp GAIN!!!!!!

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      01-27-2011 12:52 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@integrated View Post
      The cores are cast in Europe and ground in the usa.
      Here's a cam core before grinding:
      Pete,
      we were under the impression that the prototypes you used for testing were OEM cams welded up and reground which would make sense from a production standpoint. If all the cams you have been testing were machined from raw blanks then I owe you a humble apology.It will be interesting to see how these fair against other camshafts on the market.
      119hp gain is no easy formula.
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      01-27-2011 05:52 AM #38
      was waiting for the offical show...

      i haven't run my 3651's yet and i am already over them...wanna send me a set since i haven't even started the car yet? the medium set? :]
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      01-27-2011 07:15 AM #39
      Looking great Pete.

      Is power gain proportional to initial power ?

      Started with X hp and now you have X * X% hp ?

      Smaller initial power results in less gains?
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      01-27-2011 10:24 AM #40
      Would be nice to see some information regarding the drop in intake and the medium full set. I am in the process of building my AEB head and would love to try these as a DD car.

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      01-27-2011 10:24 AM #41


      Edited for the troll.... lol

    7. 01-27-2011 10:56 AM #42
      looking forward to seeing the numbers on the medium grind Pete~

      Nice work!

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      01-27-2011 10:59 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Dub-Nub View Post
      Would be nice to see some information regarding the drop in intake and the medium full set. I am in the process of building my AEB head and would love to try these as a DD car.
      Pete advised against this
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      01-27-2011 11:38 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by derekb727 View Post
      Pete advised against this
      I am interested in either the full race set or the medium set for my AEB head on my 06A block as well. Why is this advised against for DD BT?

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      01-27-2011 11:40 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by liloldbie View Post
      I am interested in either the full race set or the medium set for my AEB head on my 06A block as well. Why is this advised against for DD BT?
      the big cams are advised against DD. Not cams in general

      these cams only produce about 3-4 in of vacuum. not ideal for the break booster to help you stop and the greatest for stop-and-go traffic
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      01-27-2011 11:44 AM #47
      that little vacuum would suck in stop and go traffic, def a learning curve to braking with those unless an aftermarket vacuum pump was added-imo advised
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      01-27-2011 11:46 AM #48
      Saw this over on FB, figured there'd be some commotion here on em. Sick work. Will you guys have a car at Wuste with these installed? I'll be back to bomb your booth space.

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      01-27-2011 11:46 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by derekb727 View Post
      the big cams are advised against DD. Not cams in general

      these cams only produce about 3-4 in of vacuum. not ideal for the break booster to help you stop and the greatest for stop-and-go traffic
      Makes sense now.

      Any idea what the medium set ran for vacuum? Or let alone just the intake cam?

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      01-27-2011 12:05 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers View Post
      What I see here is either 1 of two things..

      (1) the baseline numbers of the test werent accurate

      (2) Pete and the boys just pulled a gamechanging hat trick that puts our cylinder heads in major league territory with the B and k series hondas, and the Nissan Sr 20..

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      No I didnt. Now I did. Haha thanks.
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      01-27-2011 01:44 PM #51
      Okay, so when these cams get released, someone has to figure out how to use them in conjunction with the VVT .

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      01-27-2011 01:54 PM #52
      agreed
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      01-27-2011 10:56 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by liloldbie View Post
      Makes sense now.

      Any idea what the medium set ran for vacuum? Or let alone just the intake cam?
      pete told me this:

      medium 12in or so
      drop in 16in or so
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      01-27-2011 10:56 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by theswoleguy View Post
      that little vacuum would suck in stop and go traffic, def a learning curve to braking with those unless an aftermarket vacuum pump was added-imo advised


      can you elaborate on this vacuum pump...?
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      01-27-2011 11:15 PM #55
      wow, very impressive. any chance of a video to see this in action

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      01-27-2011 11:31 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by Bryoc View Post
      wow, very impressive. any chance of a video to see this in action

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      01-27-2011 11:38 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by derekb727 View Post
      can you elaborate on this vacuum pump...?

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      01-28-2011 12:57 AM #58
      Pete,


      Can you give us insight into which valve train components will be needed for these cams?
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      01-28-2011 07:10 AM #59
      Good job Pete
      Looking forward to seeing more

    25. 01-28-2011 07:31 AM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by derekb727 View Post
      Pete advised against this
      He's asking about the small and medium set, not the large set.
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      01-28-2011 07:39 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by screwball View Post
      He's asking about the small and medium set, not the large set.
      is he? are you sure?

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      01-28-2011 10:07 AM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by screwball View Post
      He's asking about the small and medium set, not the large set.
      Quote Originally Posted by derekb727 View Post
      is he? are you sure?
      Before this thread blows up also i will let both know

      I was asking about the small and medium set. I pmed derek to get more info and that's where we realized it was the small and medium set.

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      01-28-2011 10:35 AM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by theswoleguy View Post
      that little vacuum would suck in stop and go traffic, def a learning curve to braking with those unless an aftermarket vacuum pump was added-imo advised
      It's not so bad. I ran with my vacuum at ~3 for about a year. It's not bad in traffic because when you let of the gas the vacuum shoots back up. However, it does suck when you are coming to a stop and put the clutch in. I would have to tap the gas to get them to work right

    29. 01-28-2011 10:57 AM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by derekb727 View Post
      Pete,


      Can you give us insight into which valve train components will be needed for these cams?
      This....because I run a drop in intake cam now on a 62mm turbo. It doesn't do much at all.

      But....I don't have the money to get different length valves, solid lifters, or anything of that sort.

      I would like a recommended parts list for both the middle of the road and the race only cams.

      I feel you couldn't achieve these gains on duration only, I would assume lift had to be altered. Lift being the #1 reason the 20V head lags behind Honda cylinder heads.

      If lift was altered much, you're looking at changing quite a bit in the head.

    30. 01-28-2011 11:02 AM #65
      My bad

      Not trying to stir the pot, just trying to be clear, that's all.
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      01-28-2011 01:18 PM #66
      I'm working on solving the vacuum issue anyways. When these go for sale the big set will be dailyable. The medium set is more like a spicier set of 3651's. I might try an even bigger set yet, but I have CFM data from our dyno suggesting that we may be reaching the point of diminishing returns, so no promises there.

      I pretty much found out what the vacuum issue was yesterday after working on it all day, should have it sorted soon. We want to get these available to you guys as soon as possible, but on the flip side- not until they are perfect. I don't want to come out with v2, and v3, etc- and burn the early adopters. That's our responsibility when doing the R&D and part of the final price.

      As you can see, they have timing marks, no bolts to fall out, and they will clear the VVT tensioner without grinding.

      Thanks for your patience guys, we are working diligently to finish this stuff up as quickly as possible, trust me. We want them for sale just as badly as you guys.
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      01-28-2011 01:22 PM #67
      spicies than 3651's is awesome....thanks pete/IE!!
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    33. 01-28-2011 01:33 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@integrated View Post
      We want to get these available to you guys as soon as possible, but on the flip side- not until they are perfect. I don't want to come out with v2, and v3, etc- and burn the early adopters. That's our responsibility when doing the R&D and part of the final price.
      Good man! We've all seen that around here way too often in the past, regarding everything from softwares, to turbo kits, to mounts, and cams. So BIG to being responsible. mmmmmm......refreshing.
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      01-28-2011 01:37 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by inivid View Post
      Good man! We've all seen that around here way too often in the past, regarding everything from softwares, to turbo kits, to mounts, and cams. So BIG to being responsible. mmmmmm......refreshing.
      Im not sure if including software falls in that category because getting software updates can mean new tweaks to improve it, new features, etc.

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      01-28-2011 01:43 PM #70
      Can't wait to check these babies out and run them on my car for all the haters already talking garbage.


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