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    Thread: DarkSideGTI Big Turbo Build Round 2

    1. Member BOUDAH's Avatar
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      02-10-2011 03:31 PM #26
      But you're not taking some eas way out and doing it how you want to. So thats admirable. and hella cool

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      02-10-2011 03:40 PM #27
      I have a lot to do. I am planning on shaving the front bumper, getting an R-line rear bumper, shaving the hood, and painting the roof black as well. O and getting new wheels. Hope to have everything done before Wuste in June. But I am hoping to just be able to drive it within a month.

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      02-10-2011 05:04 PM #28
      to you

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      02-10-2011 05:43 PM #29
      What do you mean your rod bearings were installed wrong?
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      02-10-2011 06:01 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      What do you mean your rod bearings were installed wrong?
      When I pulled the cyl 5 piston to replace it I must have installed the rod cap on backwards. There are no dowel pins like on the IE rods, so it is easy to put them on backwards. that or there was some kind of contamination, although I cleaned the bearings with brake cleaner and then applied assembly lube.

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      02-10-2011 06:17 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
      When I pulled the cyl 5 piston to replace it I must have installed the rod cap on backwards. There are no dowel pins like on the IE rods, so it is easy to put them on backwards. that or there was some kind of contamination, although I cleaned the bearings with brake cleaner and then applied assembly lube.
      yeah we talked about this before and it could have been many things, from over torque which could compress the bearings too much or under torque which lets them loose, or installing the cap backwards therefore the bearings are installed wrong which could cause some issues with oil getting to the bearing.

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      02-10-2011 10:31 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by huichox4 View Post
      yeah we talked about this before and it could have been many things, from over torque which could compress the bearings too much or under torque which lets them loose, or installing the cap backwards therefore the bearings are installed wrong which could cause some issues with oil getting to the bearing.
      Okay let me get this straight one more time because I'm getting nervous lol the bearings go in one way and one way only due to the little indent in both upper and lower bearing. With aftermarket rods, do the little indents need to be facing a certain way (front or back) or does it not matter?
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      02-11-2011 10:37 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      Okay let me get this straight one more time because I'm getting nervous lol the bearings go in one way and one way only due to the little indent in both upper and lower bearing. With aftermarket rods, do the little indents need to be facing a certain way (front or back) or does it not matter?
      they will only fit one way, the rods have a little indent on them too for the bearings to seat there, the rod caps are marked as the rods so you just make sure the marks are matching or on the same side. with new rods and bearings you assemble the rod outside and torque it, measure the inner diameter and then compare with the outer diameter of the crank journal were the rod is installed. check your clearance/Gap and if its within tolerance you install it as per spec.

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      02-11-2011 11:03 AM #34
      Even the OEM ones are marked, I just made a mistake.

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      02-14-2011 04:38 PM #35
      so what do you guys think, Hold out for a used 3.2l crank, or get a 2.8l crank with custom pistons? 85mm kinda scares me on the 3.2l block. I've only heard of one person breaking a block and that was DM, they were probably pushing 35+ psi.

      I didn't get to work on the bay over the weekend because I had to work. The overtime should help pay for some of this crap though.

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      02-14-2011 09:33 PM #36
      looking good. I have a 3.6L crank for sale. Diff pistons is all that is needed. Lmk. I am doing a bunch of stuff to my R right now. I now your pain (big money)
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      02-14-2011 10:19 PM #37
      I've heard the 3.6 crank doesn't work since the V angle is different. It messes up the firing order.

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      02-15-2011 09:45 AM #38
      I vote for using the 3.2 crank. I'd wait it out for a bit, seems like you've got plenty of other things to keep you busy. Nice looking build you've got here.

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      02-15-2011 11:06 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by AndyTR32 View Post
      I vote for using the 3.2 crank. I'd wait it out for a bit, seems like you've got plenty of other things to keep you busy. Nice looking build you've got here.
      Looks like I don't have to wait too long. I found a crank last night. It should be shipping out to me tomorrow thanks to websaabn.

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      02-15-2011 01:05 PM #40
      ^ Good to hear. Even though I'm a noob when it comes to all this crazy engine building and turbo talk, I think having the 3.2 is better, why knock down the displacement to 3.1? Either way, glad to see you found one, following this builld closely, great work, and good luck!

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      02-15-2011 01:45 PM #41
      Honestly no one would have ever noticed the difference between a 3.1l and a 3.2l, but I am glad I am sticking with R32 parts.

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      02-15-2011 01:50 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
      Honestly no one would have ever noticed the difference between a 3.1l and a 3.2l, but I am glad I am sticking with R32 parts.
      I would have...and you would have

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      02-15-2011 02:22 PM #43
      i don't think so. it is a pretty small difference.

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      02-15-2011 08:35 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
      i don't think so. it is a pretty small difference.
      there is more to how the engine will make power than just a raw displacement.
      a longer stroke will net more torque, whereas the shorter stroke will be happier at high revs.

      you could potentially wrap more rpm with a short stroke and a fatty piston....hell, with the stock bore and shorter stroke the engine would spin up super quick. esp with big boost.
      (think indy car engines. 2.5-2.8L v8's with turbos)

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      02-16-2011 11:16 AM #45
      Got my POR15 engine painting kit and my catch can yesterday.




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      02-16-2011 12:31 PM #46
      Where did you get that catch can from? Looks very nice.

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      02-16-2011 12:44 PM #47
      Got it from here.

      http://performanceunlimited.com/cobr...thertanks.html

      I might have to change the bracket around to get it to go where I want it.

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      02-16-2011 09:05 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
      Got it from here.

      http://performanceunlimited.com/cobr...thertanks.html

      I might have to change the bracket around to get it to go where I want it.
      catch can location is something i'm eager to see. i haven't even considered where i am going to stuff one of those buggers. need one, but they don't quite go with my shaved theme...
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      02-16-2011 09:32 PM #49
      this will be very nice .

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      02-17-2011 10:22 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by dr. b View Post
      catch can location is something i'm eager to see. i haven't even considered where i am going to stuff one of those buggers. need one, but they don't quite go with my shaved theme...
      just use a little filter in the valve cover directly at the shows ..... a shiny chromed one or even color matched to your valve cover would still keep it clean or take the whole thing out all together ...... when you drive it install a catch can if you want

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