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      02-17-2012 07:23 PM #1681
      Quote Originally Posted by JCJetta View Post
      But that's just it - he did do it all by himself.
      No, he didn't.

      Neither did Bill Gates, but at least Bill Gates admits it.

      Does your boss own a one-man business that exists in a vacuum? Did he spring, like Athena, fully-formed from the head of Zeus, or did he have parents who raised him right, or maybe a teacher somewhere who noticed his potential and gave him a push in the right direction?

      And if you're his employee (which is a horrible word in and of itself) doesn't your contribution count for something a bit more than a paycheck, or do you value yourself so little?

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      02-17-2012 07:38 PM #1682
      Quote Originally Posted by vwtool View Post
      No, he didn't.

      Neither did Bill Gates, but at least Bill Gates admits it.

      Does your boss own a one-man business that exists in a vacuum? Did he spring, like Athena, fully-formed from the head of Zeus, or did he have parents who raised him right, or maybe a teacher somewhere who noticed his potential and gave him a push in the right direction?

      And if you're his employee (which is a horrible word in and of itself) doesn't your contribution count for something a bit more than a paycheck, or do you value yourself so little?
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      03-21-2012 04:08 PM #1683
      This is interesting.

      http://spectator.org/archives/2012/0...-in-wisconsin/

      When debate over public unions flared up in Wisconsin last year, educators claimed Gov. Scott Walker's austere reforms would require thousands of teachers to be laid off.

      They were wrong.

      With small changes in pension and healthcare contributions while allowing school districts to buy health insurance plans on the open market, Walker's reforms have resulted in what could be considered a statewide teacher-retention program. School districts such as Wauwatosa, hometown of Governor Walker and the Weekly Standard's Fox News star Stephen Hayes, faced a $6.5 million deficit and planned to lay off dozens of teachers. But Walker's reforms allowed all those teachers to remain employed.

      At other large school districts such as LaCrosse, Racine, Wausau, and Beloit, if there were any layoffs at all, they were limited to two or fewer. And in addition to retaining teachers, the reforms have instituted merit-based pay systems that allow excellent teachers to be rewarded.

      However, not all school districts adopted Walker's reforms so readily. Milwaukee's school district, which is immediately east of Wauwatosa, rammed through a union contact in December, just in time to avoid being subject to the reforms.

      Now it appears the Milwaukee district is reconsidering its hasty action.

      After the City of Milwaukee announced last week that Milwaukee Public Schools would have to contribute almost 10 million additional dollars to the city's pension plan (which covers non-teaching employees, such as engineers and educational assistants), the Milwaukee teachers union made the unusual move to write a joint letter with the non-union school board and administration, requesting an additional 30 days to negotiate compensation and benefits.

      This request comes on the heels of a 90-day window between November and February to adjust teacher contracts. As the legislation signed by Walker, known as Act 10 and Act 65, makes it impossible to alter existing agreements without nullifying them, a decision to extend this window will have to be made very soon, as the Wisconsin legislature's general session completes its work today.

      However, no matter how badly reforms are necessary, other union leaders are not happy with the Milwaukee teachers union for essentially admitting that Gov. Walker was right, especially before the recall election.

      read more in the link

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      03-23-2012 01:48 PM #1684
      Crickets.

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      03-23-2012 02:34 PM #1685
      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      Crickets.
      It seems OP left TCL and OT.

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      03-23-2012 03:47 PM #1686
      this just in...if you're broke or going to be broke, if you spend less money, you probably won't be broke.

      so painful when reality butts in, eh?
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      03-23-2012 05:09 PM #1687
      Quote Originally Posted by FlashRedGLS1.8T View Post
      It seems OP left TCL and OT.
      Oh really?

      Why?

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      03-23-2012 06:19 PM #1688
      No idea. Just realized the absence.

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      03-23-2012 06:38 PM #1689
      Quote Originally Posted by FlashRedGLS1.8T View Post
      No idea. Just realized the absence.
      Yeah haven't seen him on in a while. He does have a new baby. Probably busy.

      Edit: Actually he posted in OT on 3/18

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      03-30-2012 11:23 AM #1690
      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      Oh really?

      Why?
      Sorry to burst your bubble, but I was on hiatus for a bit. My wife got another promotion and I have been working extra OT. We are planning on buying a house soon, as we have decided the house we are in is not worth the asking price.


      In other news, the recall election looks it will definitely happen on June 5. The people have spoken loud and clear.
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      03-30-2012 11:25 AM #1691
      Just cause you got the recall doesn't mean the people have spoken, we'll see on June 5th

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      03-30-2012 11:44 AM #1692
      We shall see.
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      03-30-2012 11:49 AM #1693
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Sorry to burst your bubble, but I was on hiatus for a bit. My wife got another promotion and I have been working extra OT. We are planning on buying a house soon, as we have decided the house we are in is not worth the asking price.


      In other news, the recall election looks it will definitely happen on June 5. The people have spoken loud and clear.
      I'm actually glad you didn't leave. Watch out though, too much of that hard work and responsibility is going to change your views on entitlement.

      The people will speak on June 5th.

      So what of the contrast between reality (Walker's reforms saving jobs) and the rhetoric (zomg he's trying to destroy Wisconsin!!!)?

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      03-30-2012 12:53 PM #1694
      I knew it wouldn't take long for you to show up.

      My views on entitlement? Wow, you really are full of your self. I came from a humble background and have clawed for very inch I have ever gotten. Because I have a different outlook than you, I must be up to no good.

      I am confident that the people make the best decision and that is a change come June.

      As far as the rhetoric you speak of, I still am not convinced he is saving enough jobs to mask the problems he has created.
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      03-30-2012 03:05 PM #1695
      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      I'm actually glad you didn't leave. Watch out though, too much of that hard work and responsibility is going to change your views on entitlement.
      I find it hilarious that some people associate hard work and responsibility as a conservative trait (actually not some people, just conservatives). Some of the most successful, hardworking, and responsible people i know are far more liberal than i am.
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      03-30-2012 04:14 PM #1696
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post

      As far as the rhetoric you speak of, I still am not convinced he is saving enough jobs to mask the problems he has created.
      bad news. creating jobs and helping the economy poll as the most important issue for about 75% of americans right now.

      also, could you be more specific in regards to "problems he has created." or this just something that people say to make it look like he has dramatically changed things for the worse.

      i already know what the attack ads will be like (keep in mind i do this stuff both for fun and for a living). I'm just curious what you think the "problems" really are.
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      03-30-2012 08:47 PM #1697
      Much of his ant-worker agenda was just struck down by federal court.

      Yay, constitution!

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      03-30-2012 09:02 PM #1698
      Quote Originally Posted by lojasmo View Post
      Much of his ant-worker agenda was just struck down by federal court.

      Yay, constitution!
      ant-workers!?
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      03-30-2012 10:40 PM #1699
      Quote Originally Posted by A.Wilder View Post
      I find it hilarious that some people associate hard work and responsibility as a conservative trait (actually not some people, just conservatives). Some of the most successful, hardworking, and responsible people i know are far more liberal than i am.
      I tend to believe that once you've earned something, the word "deserve" takes on a different meaning.

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      04-01-2012 10:19 AM #1700
      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      I tend to believe that once you've earned something, the word "deserve" takes on a different meaning.
      wtf are you talking about?
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      05-09-2012 06:23 PM #1702
      Quote Originally Posted by A.Wilder View Post
      wtf are you talking about?
      That you only deserve that which you have earned. If you didn't earn it, you don't deserve it.

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      05-09-2012 07:01 PM #1703
      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      Aren't you from Jersey?

      http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...d-from-salons/

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...pDU_story.html

      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...-with-student/

      http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-05/D9UKBTHO2.htm

      http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...lopers_se.html

      http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...150849155.html

      You would make a good politician.


      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      That you only deserve that which you have earned. If you didn't earn it, you don't deserve it.
      You mean like karma and stuff?
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      05-09-2012 07:04 PM #1704
      By the way, the fake democrats have been defeated.

      Guess who didn't win? The person the unions were backing.
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      05-09-2012 07:39 PM #1705
      Saw the title and immediatly thought of scott walker. Clicked on it and i was right, he sucks and so do politics...

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      05-09-2012 09:25 PM #1706
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      By the way, the fake democrats have been defeated.

      Guess who didn't win? The person the unions were backing.

      "fake democrats"?

      Guess which state in the union is the only one to lose jobs in the last two years?

      Take a guess.

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      05-09-2012 09:49 PM #1707
      Actually, I thought of you when I read it. An irrational lunatic who can't see the forest for the trees.

      Speaking of NJ, we have a governor who implemented very similar changes upon taking office. He was reviled by the NJEA and the AFSCME.

      The reforms worked. He now has 56% approval in this state. That's serious for a Republican governor in a very blue state. Taxes have stabilized, budgets are working, and teachers aren't being RIF'd every year like under the previous governor.

      The same things have happened in Wisconsin.

      You're on the wrong side of this issue.

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      05-09-2012 11:09 PM #1708
      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      Actually, I thought of you when I read it. An irrational lunatic who can't see the forest for the trees.

      The reforms worked. He now has 56% approval in this state. That's serious for a Republican governor in a very blue state. Taxes have stabilized, budgets are working, and teachers aren't being RIF'd every year like under the previous governor.

      The same things have happened in Wisconsin.

      You're on the wrong side of this issue.
      QFT. We will indeed see on June 5th. That all this BS and money was spent foolishly.
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      13 years of parochial schools over here. Knowing me one would never figure that.

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      05-10-2012 12:53 AM #1709
      Quote Originally Posted by lojasmo View Post
      "fake democrats"?
      Republicans that ran in the primaries as democrats supposedly to disillusion uninformed voters.

      Quote Originally Posted by lojasmo View Post
      Guess which state in the union is the only one to lose jobs in the last two years?

      Take a guess.
      You haven't been following along have you?

      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      Actually, I thought of you when I read it. An irrational lunatic who can't see the forest for the trees.
      Because I don't share your viewpoint I am an irrational lunatic? You are delusional.

      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      Actually, I thought of you when I read it. An irrational lunatic who can't see the forest for the trees.

      Speaking of NJ, we have a governor who implemented very similar changes upon taking office. He was reviled by the NJEA and the AFSCME.

      The reforms worked. He now has 56% approval in this state. That's serious for a Republican governor in a very blue state. Taxes have stabilized, budgets are working, and teachers aren't being RIF'd every year like under the previous governor.
      Have a ****ing cookie.

      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      You're on the wrong side of this issue.
      Blah blah blah, I am right and you are wrong. Over and over again. Omniscient? Hardly.
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      05-10-2012 01:51 AM #1710
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Republicans that ran in the primaries as democrats supposedly to disillusion uninformed voters.
      That was not their intention with running. They wanted to make sure their was a primary and that all of the recall elections fall on the same day instead of on separate days.


      Not sure what good Barret would do with this state if what he is doing in Milwaukee does not seem to be working.

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      05-10-2012 02:03 AM #1711
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabby-Blitz View Post
      That was not their intention with running. They wanted to make sure their was a primary and that all of the recall elections fall on the same day instead of on separate days.

      Are you sure?


      http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,6808569.story
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      05-10-2012 09:37 AM #1712
      Quote Originally Posted by rookdubdoc View Post
      QFT. We will indeed see on June 5th. That all this BS and money was spent foolishly.
      QFTx2

      Walker has been doing a great job and he will win the recall election

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      05-10-2012 10:55 AM #1713
      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post

      The reforms worked. He now has 56% approval in this state. That's serious for a Republican governor in a very blue state. Taxes have stabilized, budgets are working, and teachers aren't being RIF'd every year like under the previous governor.

      The same things have happened in Wisconsin.
      that is what is happening here in Michigan. Every year for the last 8 or so, teachers have gotten lay-off notices at the end of every school year, this year, the practice pretty much dried up...turns out if finish your budget 6 months early, schools know how to plan their years and don't have to warn every teacher they might be fired. Under our previous democrat leadership we had government shut downs, tax hikes, middle of the night budget deals in late september, etc. you might not like all the decisions the republicans are making here, but i will say they are knocking the budget out by May 31 every year. that is pretty impressive.
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      05-10-2012 11:18 AM #1714
      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post
      that is what is happening here in Michigan. Every year for the last 8 or so, teachers have gotten lay-off notices at the end of every school year, this year, the practice pretty much dried up...turns out if finish your budget 6 months early, schools know how to plan their years and don't have to warn every teacher they might be fired. Under our previous democrat leadership we had government shut downs, tax hikes, middle of the night budget deals in late september, etc. you might not like all the decisions the republicans are making here, but i will say they are knocking the budget out by May 31 every year. that is pretty impressive.
      I can't imagine what would happen in MI if a Walker type republican took over. Your state is deeply entrenched in Unions- Detriot would literally burn if they cut bargaining rights

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      05-10-2012 11:44 AM #1715
      Quote Originally Posted by InternetMeme View Post
      I can't imagine what would happen in MI if a Walker type republican took over. Your state is deeply entrenched in Unions- Detriot would literally burn if they cut bargaining rights
      Wouldn't burning Detroit be an improvement? :lol:

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