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    Thread: Drake 16v heads for sale

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      04-14-2011 01:35 PM #51
      good luck I guess.

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      04-20-2011 08:14 AM #52
      Photos of these heads amount to automotive porn. And I like it.
      I echo the sentiments of others, I wish I could justify putting this in my car, but its not worth it. My car came out of a farmers chicken coop. Paid 400 bucks for it. To sink this much into a cylinder head is absolutely crazy. I can't help but wonder how much enjoyment I would have ripping down the highway with one of these heads, megasquirted, running E85.
      Is there no one with the finances to buy and run one of these, so the rest of us can at least see the legend resurrected? I am almost tempted to go get a second job just to save up for one.

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      04-20-2011 08:12 PM #53
      I'm gonna make sure I keep playing the powerball and some scratch off. Hopefully I get lucky.

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    4. 04-22-2011 04:22 AM #54
      WOW! Beautiful head design. Super-V. I cant imagine how crazy it would be to run this head with a turbo.

      This head would be making alota love with a 1.8L block.

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      04-23-2011 08:35 PM #55
      amazing pieces of history their. I would love to have one of them to build around my mk1. They are a bit out of my price range though thanks for sharing them with us.

    6. 06-09-2011 02:34 PM #56
      A huge shout out goes to Robert Collins once again for putting this info and product out here on the net after
      So many years! For the pics and effort to get them, just awesome!

      I'm from another continent, and I would love to own one of those heads (busy saving actually). I read about
      The legendary Drake head many years ago and a good friend and I tried getting more info or even an actual
      Head all to no avail so for it to be offered up new on the net after almost 20yrs of searching is
      Just incredible.
      I managed to get an Oettinger head easier than it was finding more info on the Drake. I think the price is relative
      Its value.
      Btw does anyone have the brochure?
      Ciao from South Africa

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      06-10-2011 03:43 AM #57
      does anyone know another way to contact Steve? I called him and left a message and i have emailed him. i very interested at getting a complete head. any help is appreciated.

    8. 06-22-2011 07:42 PM #58
      You mean to call Stewart? Just keep trying his business number, it's not hard to get through to him.

      Stewart Van Dyne
      (714) 847-4417

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      06-23-2011 04:13 AM #59
      ok ill try again. i tryed that number before and i also emailed him frrom this company's web page

    10. 06-23-2011 12:57 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by max and tiny View Post
      ok ill try again. i tryed that number before and i also emailed him frrom this company's web page
      EMail is probably not the best way to get in touch with Stewart, but the phone always works for me. I'll talk to Stewart today or tomorrow and kick him around a little for not getting back to people.

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      06-23-2011 01:23 PM #61
      thanks. i just want the price for a whole head.

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      06-23-2011 04:42 PM #62
      Its made that way because the line of head bolts sit at/on/under cam lines, and they would not be accessible for tightening without first removing cams anyway.
      Its also easier make.

    13. 06-30-2011 01:52 AM #63
      Here's an update on people trying to get in touch with Stewart. I won't quote exactly what he said because it was filled with both filled with swear words and hilarious at the same time.

      Keep in mind, Stewart built an Indy-500 winning motor...back in 1972. So he's getting up there in his 60's. He doesn't really "do" technology. He recently discovered his web site email link was broken; so if anybody sent an email...he never got it. It doesn't matter much because he won't really look at the emails anyways. The same goes for the answering machine. He advised against leaving messages. For anybody trying to get in touch with Stewart, he said to just keep calling and calling until you get an answer.

      In a 10-minute phone call, he can answer more questions than a month's worth of emails. Stewart put it this way: "The phone was invented 100 years ago...and it f*ing still works."

      There's also been the discovery of a fresh Drake 16v race motor. The motor was built, and apparently never raced. It is supposedly "fresh" and in Southern California. It's most likely the motor I once owned, but no way to completely verify that now since I don't remember what my serial number was. But if it were mine, that would explain why it's in Southern California -- when all of the other Drake 16v motors were sold out of state.

      As a Drake 16v motor, it's built with about 1935cc, and either Okrasa crank, or Moldex billet crank, Carillow rods, and 14:1 compression ratio JE Pistons. It's complete with dry sump, dry sump pump, magneto (crank fire ignition), and distributor. It probably has the Hilborne fuel injection too, but I didn't confirm that. At 14:1 compression ratio, it was designed to run on methanol. Horsepower output would be apprixomately 275-285 horsepower at the crank. Price for the full race motor: $10,000. For anybody wanting to take this motor and turn it into a street motor, it's a steal of a deal -- especially considering the Okrasa or Moldex crank, Carillo rods, and dry sump. My hunch is this price is negotiable, but probably by no more than about $500 (that's just my guess).

      Again, for people trying to reach Stewart, call, don't email, and don't leave messages:
      Stewart Van Dyne
      (714) 847-4417

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      08-07-2011 07:51 PM #64
      Back in the early eighties my shop was doing business with Drake when you were still in Orange ,Ca. We bought several engines and other goodies(Headers,Liestritz exhausts,LAMBDA controls,suspensions, cams ...)I think just about everything as there were not many sources back then.. Anyway I remember dealing with Tim... where did he wind up?..Also. what would it take to make the centrifical advance cam gear?

    15. 08-08-2011 10:50 AM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by vnichw View Post
      Back in the early eighties my shop was doing business with Drake when you were still in Orange ,Ca. We bought several engines and other goodies(Headers,Liestritz exhausts,LAMBDA controls,suspensions, cams ...)I think just about everything as there were not many sources back then.. Anyway I remember dealing with Tim... where did he wind up?..Also. what would it take to make the centrifical advance cam gear?
      Tim is Stewart's brother. Tim ended up in Tempe Arizona last I heard -- 20+ years ago. I don't know where he is today.

      We had a prototype centrifugal cam gear that we dyno tested once. I don't remember if it made any power over the non-centri cam gear. It would seem likely that it made more torque in the bottom end, and same up top, but frankly I just don't remember. It was a rather clunky device loaded with springs.

      What was the name of your shop...I might remember you.

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      08-08-2011 10:28 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by PencilGeek View Post
      Tim is Stewart's brother. Tim ended up in Tempe Arizona last I heard -- 20+ years ago. I don't know where he is today.

      We had a prototype centrifugal cam gear that we dyno tested once. I don't remember if it made any power over the non-centri cam gear. It would seem likely that it made more torque in the bottom end, and same up top, but frankly I just don't remember. It was a rather clunky device loaded with springs.

      What was the name of your shop...I might remember you.
      CDSI we were in Lombard Illinios..

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      08-09-2011 12:24 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by vnichw View Post
      CDSI we were in Lombard Illinios..
      I remember Tim always trying to sell me one(so it would no longer be a prototype?). And remember being told the same low end and top end characteristics...

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      09-12-2011 07:14 AM #68
      If I thought I could get one of these into a car and running for $5k I'd do it, even though it means basically throwing out the first $5k or so I probably have into it. At $10k, plus the miscellaneous accessories, I'll just buy another car.

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      11-30-2011 03:04 PM #69
      So the "fresh" race engine is a friend of Stewart's? Did he ever talk cost for the complete engine he has in those pictures?

    20. 12-01-2011 05:23 AM #70
      So much time, money, work and commitment would go into getting one of these heads running but there would be nothing that could compare to the outcome. I think the cost would be worth it in the end.

      I wish i could meet the designers just to thank them for making something so beautiful.

      Thanks for posting this piece of history for everybody to see.

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      12-01-2011 01:23 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by saddest6day66 View Post
      So the "fresh" race engine is a friend of Stewart's? Did he ever talk cost for the complete engine he has in those pictures?
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    23. 12-18-2011 09:46 AM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by 1983rabbitgti View Post

      almost every guy with a 16v would want one. this is SUUUUUUPER baller.
      x2

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      04-18-2012 01:06 AM #74
      I would love to have a full motor from drake. 9:1 comp for.boost with that head on e85 would make 4 digits ill bet
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      04-18-2012 01:19 AM #75
      so have any of these been sold? whats the story as time has gone on here?

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