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      03-17-2011 09:07 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      Not a stupid question. Most cars do have radio prep from what I understand (I saw a Versa at the auto show without the radio, it still had a roof antenna and radio prep). I know back in the day 9when my Mk2 was new) you had the choice of "radio prep" or an actual radio. No cars came without a radio harness.
      Yup. My '87 GTI 16v came with the radio prep package. You bought your own head unit and installed it.

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      03-17-2011 09:08 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by carpathian_basin View Post
      Did the door panels have speaker grilles/cutouts? Sorry for the stupid question.
      I believe they did, but I'll check.

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      03-17-2011 09:10 AM #28
      Without a nice interior, VW has nothing going for it...
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      03-17-2011 09:18 AM #29
      I don't think we'll be seeing many of these base models at dealers. This is not the "S" trim, which comes standard with AC, AM/FM radio with aux input, and the 2.0. The VW website shows the S trim as the lowest trim level, so this stripper base model must be a fleet configuration. The MSRP on the S is 15,995 and this base model is $1000 less than that.

      It is indeed strange to see two of these at a dealer showroom.

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      03-17-2011 09:31 AM #30
      http://www.crutchfield.com/

      for all your car stereo needs. As for the AC, I drove a mk3 with no AC all summer and I'm still alive. It's not bad, and the price is extremely low for a jetta.

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      03-17-2011 09:31 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by trbochrg View Post
      I can't remember the last time i have seen a VW without a radio....they have had so many "Standard features" such as Radio, AC and "power everything" for the past few years.
      If I'm not mistaken, the last Golf available without a radio in the US was the Mk III Golf CL.

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      03-17-2011 09:38 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by addicted2vw View Post
      If I'm not mistaken, the last Golf available without a radio in the US was the Mk III Golf CL.
      The Golf and Jetta City had no radio or AC, like these cars. They didn't advertise those even in brochures though. We didn't get the CL in the USA. That was a Canadian 1.8l Monoport injection model.

      Quote Originally Posted by PA_Dub View Post
      I don't think we'll be seeing many of these base models at dealers. This is not the "S" trim, which comes standard with AC, AM/FM radio with aux input, and the 2.0. The VW website shows the S trim as the lowest trim level, so this stripper base model must be a fleet configuration. The MSRP on the S is 15,995 and this base model is $1000 less than that.

      It is indeed strange to see two of these at a dealer showroom.
      That makes sense. I wonder how they got there. I'm tempted to scan the lot and see if there are more. Anyone who wants to know where they are, they're available for purchase, just contact me

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      03-17-2011 09:47 AM #33
      VW doesn't list this model on their site, I guess they're too embarrassed But it is listed on the pricing sites like Edmunds. It's not a fleet-only model...fleets probably wouldn't want it, they usually want a popular level of equipment so they can resell the car after a few years.

      If you think this is crazy, you can get a new Nissan Altima equipped this way too! I think Nissan is the only company that will still sell you a midsize/fullsize sedan without radio or A/C.

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      03-17-2011 09:51 AM #34
      That's interesting to me that there's a basier-base model than what's shown on the website. I love the concept, it never hurts to have options. Sub-$14k for a brand new Volkswagen is territory (when inflation is taken into account) that VW probably hasn't been in since the Fox.

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      03-17-2011 09:52 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      II would totally buy one if I had 13k to blow, and wanted a track car. There are a ton of SC and turbo kits for these engines that give them very respectable power, and the decontenting would be good in this case. Throw a fun suspension on it and I'd rock it! Yes, even with the solid rear beam
      you know when someone posts something like this, they're deep into the kool aid. and by that, I mean spends a couple of hours daily in the sensory deprivation tank filled with kool aid.

      but hey, whatever floats your boat I guess...

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      03-17-2011 09:52 AM #36
      out here in Calgary this would be perfect. there is no need for A/C 3400 feet above sea level and at the base of the rockies

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      03-17-2011 09:55 AM #37
      I think this is a great idea. Will they sell many like this? No. Will that price get people in the door? Yes. bring people in with the cheap car, then they say, "I love it! but put a radio in it. And AC. Can I get it with power mirrors?" And boom. Now you're selling a Jetta that's $2000 more, and the customer still thinks they're getting a cheap car. I know if I had a very limited budget, this is the car I'd choose over a Hyundai or used Honda or something of the sort.

      Honda did this for years with cheap Civics. 4 Speed manual, driver's side mirror only, no hubcaps, no AC, AM/FM radio only, vinyl seats, etc.
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      03-17-2011 09:59 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by drhavoc View Post
      out here in Calgary this would be perfect.
      Yeah, and here in Texas, not so much
      My current 97 2.slo Golf is my first car ever with a working A/C, and I won't give THAT up
      I'm OK with power nothing (except for mirrors) and manual is a given. Radio prep much preferred over OEM radio.
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      03-17-2011 10:05 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by iamsuperdan View Post
      I think this is a great idea. Will they sell many like this? No. Will that price get people in the door? Yes. bring people in with the cheap car, then they say, "I love it! but put a radio in it. And AC. Can I get it with power mirrors?" And boom. Now you're selling a Jetta that's $2000 more, and the customer still thinks they're getting a cheap car. I know if I had a very limited budget, this is the car I'd choose over a Hyundai or used Honda or something of the sort.

      Honda did this for years with cheap Civics. 4 Speed manual, driver's side mirror only, no hubcaps, no AC, AM/FM radio only, vinyl seats, etc.
      It just seems that in the past 10-15 years the automotive world has generally abandoned these tactics, maybe that's why this seems so strange to us all.

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      03-17-2011 10:11 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by Ben.Reilly View Post
      Without a nice interior, VW has nothing going for it...
      says the guy with the Cavalier...
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      03-17-2011 10:13 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      And this suprised me...
      (pic of windshield)
      Well not really... I didn't expect them to move like hotcakes. But it seems odd that these are the models this dealer would choose to show off in the showroom. Another guy in the showroom asked me, "are they serious with the no radio?" The other model advertised $99/mo payments, with a lot of other fine details I don't remember.
      Quote Originally Posted by PA_Dub View Post
      I don't think we'll be seeing many of these base models at dealers. This is not the "S" trim, which comes standard with AC, AM/FM radio with aux input, and the 2.0. The VW website shows the S trim as the lowest trim level, so this stripper base model must be a fleet configuration. The MSRP on the S is 15,995 and this base model is $1000 less than that.

      It is indeed strange to see two of these at a dealer showroom.

      It wouldn't surprise me at all if they put those two in the showroom with blowout prices because someone who orders new cars for that dealership ordered them by accident. Cars aren't like parts that you can return if its wrong; you have to sell it or dealer trade it to get rid of it.

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      03-17-2011 10:16 AM #42
      Sometimes I flip flop between do I need a "performance car" or just basic transportation. So one day I was feeling basic transportation would be enough for me and my 2 kids. I thought that Jetta could be a great option because not only could I trade my S4 in for a new car, but I would also get cash back.

      I pull into the VW dealer and park next to another b6 S4 [he is shopping for a CC]

      I ask the dealer for the keys to the poop brown base Jetta they have outside.

      As the dealer hands me a valet style key she says kinda under her breath "you know that thing has no A/C right" No I did not know that but deside to check it out anyway.

      So I get in the car and see where the radio should be. I thought to myself thats odd why would they hide the radio. So I push on the panel like an idiot thinking the plastic would flip up and underneath would be some dials. Nope.

      The steering wheel feel is very similar to how my sons steering wheel feels in his FJ Cruiser power wheels. Cheap Plastic.

      Ok I get it, the price tag is cheap so the car feels cheap. Thats fair and I could deal with all the other stuff but I "need" a/c. I know I know my parent parents didnt have a/c in their cars and their kids turned out of. But if given the choice to not cook my kids out I wont.

      My basic feeling on the car is. If you arent going to come with a radio and you arent going to come with an a/c I think you should do better then 30 mpg.

      I can go get a civic still under plenty of factory warranty that has all the things that Jetta is missing and get better MPG, more HP, and is cheaper then that Jetta.

    18. 03-17-2011 10:18 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by g60vwr View Post
      says the guy with the Cavalier...
      Indeed. No wonder the guy is so bitter and hateful. Poor sap...

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      03-17-2011 10:21 AM #44
      Power windows?? Metallic paint? Not stripped enough.

    20. 03-17-2011 10:22 AM #45
      I don't see a problem with this. Would I ever buy one, no. But if there are people out there that want this why not offer it as an option? If you don't like it then don't buy it.
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      03-17-2011 10:23 AM #46
      It's like the Evo RS...only without the fun

    22. 03-17-2011 10:25 AM #47
      I'll still take it any day over a base Corolla or Civic.

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      03-17-2011 10:28 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      Power windows?? Metallic paint? Not stripped enough.
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoEuphoria View Post
      It's like the Evo RS...only without the fun
      lol

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      03-17-2011 10:36 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by g60vwr View Post
      says the guy with the Cavalier...
      Quote Originally Posted by Dr Drake View Post
      Indeed. No wonder the guy is so bitter and hateful. Poor sap...

      Gotta love VW owners
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      03-17-2011 11:17 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by MN6845 View Post
      Taking cheap to a new level.
      I have to start thinking about getting a car for my daughter. Since the majority of young drivers wind up in an accident, I want a car that's - cheap - safe - without a lot of distractions. This looks really good!

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