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    Thread: ** GruvenParts.com Releases A4/S4/Avant/Passat Billet Dipsticks! **


    1. 01-03-2012 03:59 PM #27
      Why no billet funnel and dip stick tube for the 06A (AWM)? I no longer have mine attached by the bracket because I have a manifold spacer. It is only a matter of time before my new one (replaced couple months back) becomes brittle once again and breaks.

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      01-11-2012 12:13 PM #28
      We are working on many different billet dipsticks. I will pass that info on to engineering so they know. Stay tuned for updates and any part suggestions are appreciated!

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      01-13-2012 09:21 AM #29
      Bump for the A4 dipstick !

      Quote Originally Posted by GruvenParts.com View Post


      A4 / Passat 1.8T Billet Dipstick

      www.GruvenParts.com is proud to release these gorgeous Billet Dipsticks to replace OEM part number 053-115-611C (053115611C). Our billet dipstick is CNC’d from a solid block of 6061-T651 aluminum with a stainless steel cable permanently attached. The cable end has a flitting with hash marks to signify oil level min and max.

      As an added bonus, this part is made to perfectly fit our Billet Dipstick Funnels and can be ordered as a set to save! If you are ordering the billet funnel with the billet dipstick, please ensure your car uses dipstick funnel OEM P/N 053-103-663 (053103663).

      This billet dipstick replaces OEM part number 053-115-611C (053115611C) and fits the following vehicles :

      1996 - 2002 Audi A4/S4/Avant Quattro 1.8T (AEB)
      1998 – 2001 VW Passat 1.8T (AEB)
      1988 – 1992 Audi 80/90
      1982 – 1987 Audi 4000
      1987 – 1993 VW Fox
      1982 - 1985 VW Quantum 1.8L

      Don’t see your car listed here? Don’t worry! We have many more of these billet dipsticks coming for nearly all makes / models. Visit www.GruvenParts.com for the latest.

    4. 01-13-2012 04:41 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by GruvenParts.com View Post
      Another added bonus of the GruvenParts.com control arms : Ours wont hit each other at full turning lock like some of the other versions out there do. We have specially designed these control arms to prevent the two outboard heim joints from contacting one another during full turning lock, which prevents expensive damage that is so common on the competitor versions. This was a feature you asked for and we have delivered.
      Do you disclose to your customers what offsetting the outers does to their suspension geometry?

      Also, 034Motorsport Density Line Adjustable Upper Control Arms and Stern Adjustable Upper Control Arms do not bind at full-lock, and never have.

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      01-13-2012 07:13 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by TallaiMan View Post
      Do you disclose to your customers what offsetting the outers does to their suspension geometry?

      Also, 034Motorsport Density Line Adjustable Upper Control Arms and Stern Adjustable Upper Control Arms do not bind at full-lock, and never have.
      1. Our adjustable control arms do not alter the suspension geometry, they allow customers to actually align their wheels correctly when lowered (or stock). The slight extension at the upper outboard heim doesnt affect on suspension geometry. It does, however prevent the binding at full lock. I dont know about you, but navigating the city streets in a lowered car is hard enough. Not being able to turn it to full lock is plain ridiculous.

      2. One of the reasons we built our control arms was because so many 034 customers came to us requesting control arms that did not collide at full lock, and did not bend when hitting pot holes. At the time, I believe there was some price gouging going on too.

      This is actually right from your (034) website :


      Note 1 - This [034] upper control arm kit does bind at full lock, the rear heim can touch the front link (depending on alignment settings), though this has no real effect on function (the wheel will turn all the way to the steering rack lock), we do not recommend driving around at full lock with these parts installed. If you do drive around at full lock, then you may have other issues relating to the area between the drivers seat and steering wheel that need to be addressed.


      Furthermore, the "Density" line from 034 requires you to unbolt the control arm and remove it from the suspension upright to adjust its length - a tremendous pain in the a$$. Whereas ours allow you to loosen the jamb nuts and simply spin the center portion to lengthen or shorten. Do you disclose to your customers that if you constantly need to pop the pin out of the suspension upright to adjust alignment, you will wear out the upright causing play within joint? (not to mention p!ssing off every mechanic that has to align your car...)

    6. 01-13-2012 08:51 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by GruvenParts.com View Post
      1. Our adjustable control arms do not alter the suspension geometry, they allow customers to actually align their wheels correctly when lowered (or stock). The slight extension at the upper outboard heim doesnt affect on suspension geometry. It does, however prevent the binding at full lock. I dont know about you, but navigating the city streets in a lowered car is hard enough. Not being able to turn it to full lock is plain ridiculous.

      2. One of the reasons we built our control arms was because so many 034 customers came to us requesting control arms that did not collide at full lock, and did not bend when hitting pot holes. At the time, I believe there was some price gouging going on too.
      They don't alter the suspension geometry, yet are manufactured in a way that changes the position of the outer heim joints in a manner that cannot be corrected by the adjustment offered on your arms? Have you done any CAD development or analysis to verify that?

      No 034 arms have bent from hitting potholes. I believe you are thinking of Stern's arms. One of 034's full-spherical arms was bent by a customer who drove around at full-lock despite a disclaimer posteed on the website and included with the product. It was replaced for him under warranty.

      034's full-spherical arms have stood up to years of time-attack racing in the Time Attack B5 A4, which is the fastest B5-chassis road-course car in North America. Does GrüvenParts (yes, you actually can type umlauts here) have any experience testing their "performance" products in a competitive race environment?

      034Motorsport does not "price gouge" customers, but they do actually engineer functional products, which might make their parts cost a few dollars more than lower quality alternatives.

      Quote Originally Posted by GruvenParts.com View Post
      This is actually right from your (034) website :


      Note 1 - This [034] upper control arm kit does bind at full lock, the rear heim can touch the front link (depending on alignment settings), though this has no real effect on function (the wheel will turn all the way to the steering rack lock), we do not recommend driving around at full lock with these parts installed. If you do drive around at full lock, then you may have other issues relating to the area between the drivers seat and steering wheel that need to be addressed.
      This is only on Full-Spherical Track Adjustable Arms. Not on Density Line Arms, which are sold to customers who are... driving around city streets, where full-spherical arms aren't necessary, and transmit much more NVH into the cabin. We do not recommend full-spherical arms for street use due to increased NVH transfer.

      034Motorsport Density Line Adjustable Arms are CAD engineered to maintain proper suspension geometry without making contact at full lock. They also feature a rubber inner bushing to limit NVH transfer into the cabin, making them ideal for street use.

      Quote Originally Posted by GruvenParts.com View Post
      Furthermore, the "Density" line from 034 requires you to unbolt the control arm and remove it from the suspension upright to adjust its length - a tremendous pain in the a$$. Whereas ours allow you to loosen the jamb nuts and simply spin the center portion to lengthen or shorten. Do you disclose to your customers that if you constantly need to pop the pin out of the suspension upright to adjust alignment, you will wear out the upright causing play within joint? (not to mention p!ssing off every mechanic that has to align your car...)
      It does not require removal of the arm whatsoever, nor removal the pinch bolt. There is an allen bolt that threads into the pin that we manufacture in-house. You leave the arm installed, unscrew the bolt, ease the spherical off of the pin, and adjust the arm accordingly. Here is a video:



      We opted for a rod-end design to avoid the "alignment creep" which is inherent with adjusting a turnbuckle-style arm like the Sterns.
      Last edited by TallaiMan; 01-13-2012 at 08:54 PM.

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      01-15-2012 10:35 AM #33
      Have you done any CAD development or analysis to verify that?
      CAD ? No. Although I have thousands of hours using Catia V5 and Solidworks so I could bury myself behind a computer for hours if I felt like it was needed for this. Instead we used real world measurements on alignment devices to ensure our design would allow for proper alignment at any ride height. It works perfectly and hundreds of customers and install shops can attest to that.

      No 034 arms have bent from hitting potholes.
      Not what your ex-customers told us.

      Does GrüvenParts (yes, you actually can type umlauts here) have any experience testing their "performance" products in a competitive race environment?
      I do not race in competive circuits, however quite a few customers of ours do. We primarily do track days which are not timed events but do allow for pushing the car well beyond its limits. I have participated in track days and driving schools at Road Atlanta, Roebling, and little Talledega, hopefully more soon. Thanks for tip about the umlauts.


      http://www.grüvenparts.com

      034Motorsport does not "price gouge" customers,
      Again, these are words written to us by your ex-customers and the reason why we even began making adjustable A4 control arms in the 1st place. If there wasnt a need, we would not of pursued it.


      Regarding your video : I had a shop call me this past week specifically mentioning your control arms being difficult to adjust because they need to disassembled, adjusted, reassembled, then alignment measured. Then the process repeated until the alignment was correct. The whole process is very time consuming and he specifically requested our upper control arms because of that fact.

      And like it or not, you will only be able to remove the spherical from pin so many times before the pin itself wears causing play. Its also not easy to get a little allen wrench up in there above the upright. You will end up with stripped allen bolts, so this isnt a good solution. And I can only hope you tell your customers to loc-tite the hell out of that allen bolt, because if it backs out you are screwed.

      Finally, why dont you make your posts as the actual 034 banner Advertiser instead of a seeming unbiased user? You should not even be allowed to make your commercial postings of videos and links without being an advertiser.

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      02-13-2012 03:14 PM #34
      Bump for some great control arms !!



      Quote Originally Posted by GruvenParts.com View Post

      A4/B5 Front Adjustable Control Arms

      Audi A4/S4/RS4/A6/RS6 and VW Passat B5 Adjustable Front Upper Control Arms

      BY FAR – THE BEST VALUE IN ADJUSTABLE CONTROL ARMS ON THE MARKET !


      You asked GruvenParts.com for affordable, bulletproof, and fully rebuildable Audi A4/S4/RS4/A6/RS6 and VW Passat B5 Adjustable Front Upper Control Arms and we have delivered!

      Just like the GruvenParts.com popular TT/R32 rear adjustable control arms, we designed these based on years of fabricating rock crawler suspension systems for racers and weekend warriors alike. They are made from a special aircraft grade of 4130 chrominum-molybdenum alloy and then powder coated in high gloss black for maximum durability. The heim joints are CAD plated, PTFE lined, and can be ordered with dust boots all around for those planning to re-enact a Grouppe B Ralley race. Finally, all parts are fully rebuildable.

      Don’t waste your hard earned money with the over-priced competitor versions. The quality and performance of the GruvenParts.com adjustable upper control arms are second to none!

      These come as a set of 4 and fit the following models :

      Audi A4/S4/RS4 – 1996-2008 (B5, B6, B7, C5)
      Audi A6/RS6 (incl. AllRoad) - 1998-2004
      VW Passat - 1998-2005

      This product replaces OEM Part Numbers 8E0-407-505C, 8E0-407-505A, 8E0-407-506C, 8E0-407-506A, 8E0-407-509C, 8E0-407-509A, 8E0-407-510A (and possibly others). (8E0407505C, 8E0407505A, 8E0407506C, 8E0407506A, 8E0407509C, 8E0407509A, 8E0407510A)

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      02-14-2012 09:33 PM #35
      I have a 2001 a4 with the 1.8t

      Do you have a billet dipstick for me?

      Does it replace everything?

      Can I see a picture of it exactly?
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    11. 03-07-2012 08:28 PM #37
      Does it really? I too am waiting on one for the same engine (look in the previous posts). That listing says it fits the AEB. Not the AWM.

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      03-19-2012 09:57 AM #38
      Please post the OEM part number of dipstick. I may be mistaken but I thought that would fit.

      I will research once I have your OEM p/n to see what we have that will work

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      03-26-2012 12:03 PM #39
      Nice day to call in sick and work on your car

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    14. 03-26-2012 02:28 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by GruvenParts.com View Post
      Please post the OEM part number of dipstick. I may be mistaken but I thought that would fit.

      I will research once I have your OEM p/n to see what we have that will work
      06B103663G is for the AWM

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      04-23-2012 02:01 PM #41
      You are right I dont think we have any that fit that p/n. I am checking into making that 1.

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    17. 05-16-2012 02:14 PM #43
      What's going on with the units for the 06A block?

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      05-16-2012 03:14 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by Seerlah View Post
      What's going on with the units for the 06A block?
      tick tock tick tock
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      06-28-2012 08:02 PM #45
      I still dont have 1 available. We are working on lots of dipsticks so we will get them all eventually. Please post in here what you want, the more noise the better.

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      06-28-2012 08:20 PM #46
      Many people have 2001 (AWM) because they're the last year of the chassis. So please make A dipstick holder for us!
      Donations always accepted

    21. 06-30-2012 07:41 AM #47
      Yep. The B6 A4 1.8t (AMB) uses the same dip stick funnel, so it just won't be for the B5 A4 AWM platform.

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      07-04-2012 08:39 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by GruvenParts.com View Post
      I still dont have 1 available. We are working on lots of dipsticks so we will get them all eventually. Please post in here what you want, the more noise the better.
      Please add an Audi 30-valve billet dip stick option (2.8L, 2.7tt, and 3.0L).
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      08-16-2012 08:28 AM #49
      Will do, we are looking into revamping the development process on these billet dipsticks. I know this is taking far too long.

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      08-18-2012 02:04 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by GruvenParts.com View Post
      Will do, we are looking into revamping the development process on these billet dipsticks. I know this is taking far too long.
      No prob. Us 2.8L Drivers are fairly patient for any performance parts.
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