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    1. Member jordan_fehlman's Avatar
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      03-29-2011 06:08 AM #26
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      03-29-2011 06:44 AM #27
      Looks good man, get that upper polished!

      Whats your system specs?
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      03-29-2011 08:31 AM #28
      Already started the polishing project... most of the pipes are now polished (not as well as I want, but I'll get there). Manifold is a different story... that'll probably be done next winter.

      As far as a setup... nothing too special

      rebuilt Garrett T3 .52 trim (.48 hotside)
      2-1/2 downpipe back with a highflow cat
      FMIC (obviously) with 2-1/4 piping all around
      AEG manifold (obviously)
      Bosch red tops (30lbers) with C2 stage 1 software (from summer 2007... I think it's ver. 2 software)
      Pushing around 11psi - close to 200whp i assume... haven't dyno'd in a while
      Autotech 260 cam with lightweight lifters... everything else motor wise is stock
      ACT stage 1 clutch (slipping)
      BFI Stage .5 motor mount inserts

      I've got a clutchnet unit to replace the ACT clutch, along with a new rear main seal and possibily a bolt kit too for the 02O. I'd go stand alone, but the car has to pass plug-in OBD2 emissions where im living, so PNP software is a must and i want stage 2. I'd also love to do some head work... but money is tight, so yeah.

      plans for the spring/summer include fixing my leaky exhaust, changing the clutch and associated parts i mentioned earlier, and driving it.

      edit: picture of the car

      Last edited by nfx; 03-29-2011 at 08:36 AM.
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      03-29-2011 04:33 PM #29
      hey man sick build

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      03-29-2011 04:43 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by raymondlee View Post
      hey man sick build
      Thanks man!


      Thought I would share a photo of my intercooler setup with you guys.


      If anybody has any questions about the Air/Water setup, I'll be glad to answer them for you.
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      03-29-2011 04:51 PM #31
      now that water is going to be sprayed through the cooler to lower the air temp passing through right?

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      03-29-2011 05:02 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by ItAintRubbinItAintDubbin View Post
      now that water is going to be sprayed through the cooler to lower the air temp passing through right?
      Yes , A Water to Air Intercooler setup is similar in principle to a traditional air to air setup, except that there is water passing through the core of the intercooler instead of air which is responsible for drawing the heat out of the intake air. Water and other coolants disperse heat faster and more efficiently than air can.

      After the water makes it's way out of the intercooler it's been heated, it then goes through the Air/Water heat exchanger, it's basically a radiator, as the water moves through the heat exchanger it cools back to ambient air temps. Then it makes it's way to the Ice box, which mine personally will always be filled with chunks of ice, even though the ice box isn't necessary for the setup, you can clearly think of the benefits of passing 40 degree water through the Intercooler
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      03-29-2011 06:20 PM #33
      hey hey now i see an all aluminum radiator. what'd you find that worked?
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      03-29-2011 06:21 PM #34
      Making me want to keep my 8v and turbo it instead of doing a 16v turbo
      Goodluck
      I hope you take videos of it running when it's finished
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      03-29-2011 07:02 PM #35
      Keep it up, 8v is just classier. Cheers

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      03-30-2011 05:13 PM #36
      nice project...but only 8psi? thats no fun lol.
      I ran my old 2.0T at 13-14lbs daily on a bone stock 170k mile obd2 aba for a VERY long time before the h/g finally went. then i pulled out the tired half blown t3 s60 and slapped in a $100 ebay t3/t4 along with some arp studs and a c2 spacer. then raised the boost to 21psi. tons of fun until i got rid of the car.
      it put down 203.7whp on the small turbo at 14psi. im guessing from the butt dyno that it was at least 275whp on the t3/t4...at least thats what it felt like lol
      crank that boost up and have some real fun with it man. these motors can handle plenty of abuse
      I like Boost
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      03-30-2011 05:30 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by VWDugan View Post
      nice project...but only 8psi? thats no fun lol.
      I ran my old 2.0T at 13-14lbs daily on a bone stock 170k mile obd2 aba for a VERY long time before the h/g finally went. then i pulled out the tired half blown t3 s60 and slapped in a $100 ebay t3/t4 along with some arp studs and a c2 spacer. then raised the boost to 21psi. tons of fun until i got rid of the car.
      it put down 203.7whp on the small turbo at 14psi. im guessing from the butt dyno that it was at least 275whp on the t3/t4...at least thats what it felt like lol
      crank that boost up and have some real fun with it man. these motors can handle plenty of abuse
      Oh I'm going to.

      Quote Originally Posted by AJmustDIE View Post
      Also, I will only be running 8 PSI when the build is "completed" after I get the tranny paid for I'm buying a set of JE pistons and IE rods to lower my compression so I can raise the boost. Just so your minds don't wander..
      I knew somebody was gonna miss it.. lol.
      But yeah man I agree, 8psi will be no fun. But it will be cranked up!
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      03-30-2011 05:38 PM #38
      I would find an OBD-I block/head for now. OBD-I ABAs have forged cranks and rods factory. The OBD-I heads are a bit better flowing than the OBD-IIs.
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      03-30-2011 05:40 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by AJmustDIE View Post
      Oh I'm going to.



      I knew somebody was gonna miss it.. lol.
      But yeah man I agree, 8psi will be no fun. But it will be cranked up!

      oh no...i didnt miss it. i read every word. but personally i would start out at at least 10psi. nice round number lol.
      i had a boostvalve.com 2-stage boost controller on mine that worked great. 12-13psi around town daily and with the flip of a switch it was at 20-21psi depending on the weather lol
      I like Boost
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      03-30-2011 06:09 PM #40
      Can't wait to see this done, Very nice.
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      03-30-2011 06:49 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by catbed View Post
      I would find an OBD-I block/head for now. OBD-I ABAs have forged cranks and rods factory. The OBD-I heads are a bit better flowing than the OBD-IIs.
      I'm aware. But my crank will be fine at these power levels, I'm not looking at going over 300 anytime soon. But in the near future I will sourcing an OBDI engine and setting it up when I get a garage. It's gonna be bored over and completely went through. That's when I'll be ready to put down some serious power with a huge garrett turbo.

      Quote Originally Posted by VWDugan View Post
      oh no...i didnt miss it. i read every word. but personally i would start out at at least 10psi. nice round number lol.
      i had a boostvalve.com 2-stage boost controller on mine that worked great. 12-13psi around town daily and with the flip of a switch it was at 20-21psi depending on the weather lol
      Can't safely go to 10 or over psi without lowering compression. I don't have a head spacer nor am I getting one. I'm not willing to auto detonate my engine to death, especially it being obdII, . I'm doing it the right way, the safe way.


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      Well guys, I got rained out again today, so not much of an update. When I went to go attack the exhaust manifold it fought me every step of the way. Three bolts on the bottom went round on me so I had to torch them out.

      It's most likely going to be raining all day tomorrow and it will be another day of nothingness.
      Thanks for keepin' up with this everyybody.
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      03-30-2011 08:04 PM #42
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      03-30-2011 08:07 PM #43
      Man that sucks
      I can't wait to see this done.
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      03-30-2011 08:16 PM #44
      this might be good
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      03-30-2011 09:19 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by AJmustDIE View Post

      Can't safely go to 10 or over psi without lowering compression. I don't have a head spacer nor am I getting one. I'm not willing to auto detonate my engine to death, especially it being obdII, . I'm doing it the right way, the safe way.

      this is not completely true. like i said. i ran 14-15psi daily on a BONE STOCK OBD2 aba for quite a while with zero issues until the h/g finally went. this was on a C2 stg 2 btw.
      I dont blame you for wanting to do it the right way though...more power to you. personally I like to push the limits of the stock engine with what i have...aba motors are a dime a dozen and easy to change out if you blow one up...and it makes for good carnage pics
      I like Boost
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      03-31-2011 06:57 AM #47
      pft... stock block, stock compression, original headgasket... i accidently put 15psi through it once. and it sits around 11-12psi without an issue.

      Don't be a wuss
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    23. 03-31-2011 07:25 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by VWDugan View Post
      this is not completely true. like i said. i ran 14-15psi daily on a BONE STOCK OBD2 aba for quite a while with zero issues until the h/g finally went. this was on a C2 stg 2 btw.
      I dont blame you for wanting to do it the right way though...more power to you. personally I like to push the limits of the stock engine with what i have...aba motors are a dime a dozen and easy to change out if you blow one up...and it makes for good carnage pics

      Psi is a measure of restriction. That is it. It is not a measure of power level, or a way of measuring the strength of components.


      15 PSI through a 60trim is alot less punishing then 10 PSI through a 50 trim, which is nothing compared to 7 PSI through a 6265, which is nothing compared to 5 PSI through a GT50, ect.

      Also, running 15 PSI on a Super 60 with a .48 housing is completely different then running 15PSI through a Super 60 with a .63 housing, which is completely different then running 15 PSI through a Super 60 with a stage 2 turbine wheel in a .63 housing.



      People really need to start ignoring PSI in regards to other peoples setups. It means nothing car to car. It is only useful as a measure of inprovement in VE of your engine when doing modifications to increase such.

    24. 03-31-2011 07:28 AM #49
      Also, why do you 2.0T guys keep swapping to the Mk4 manifold? The swap gives you less plenum volume, and MUCH longer runners... Thats a BIG step backwards in 99% of FI setups.

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      03-31-2011 08:13 AM #50
      I think its because the porting is a little bigger..... But I'm not to sure.
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