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      04-08-2012 06:00 AM #211
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      SUVs on the Ring.

      A tank slapper is almost inevitable.
      Its not just an SUV. Some would actually do fine. He was driving a CRV at speed. That was the problem.

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      04-08-2012 06:01 PM #212
      Quote Originally Posted by SebTheDJ View Post
      Awesome.
      Did you record this mr verrukt?

      Lol @ people yelling Was ist Das?! when hello kitty drives by
      Nah, it's been a while since I've been to the 'ring unfortunately. Close to 4 years now.

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      04-10-2012 08:53 PM #213
      Just like NASCAR, people watch it for the crashes.

      Throw a little oil into the mix and look what happens...

      (Glad to see the guys at the end do the right thing and get out to flag people down)


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      04-10-2012 09:12 PM #214
      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

      A TCL'er tries to rent a car at the 'ring...




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      04-10-2012 11:36 PM #215
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

      A TCL'er tries to rent a car at the 'ring...



      ROFL... I was laughing so hard I woke my wife up and had to stop it. I'll have to watch the rest later.

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      04-11-2012 01:21 AM #216
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

      A TCL'er tries to rent a car at the 'ring...



      I too was audibly laughing in a house of sleeping people thanks to this video lol

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      04-11-2012 05:13 AM #217
      Quote Originally Posted by juventuss View Post
      In the case of the S2000, was there anyway he could have corrected or at least attempted to salvage the situation ? We know him braking probably made it worse. If I am caught in a situation where my backend starts coming around how should I "best" correct it. FF, FR, RR, AWD set ups.
      If youre at the point of no return, and youre in an arc-slide like that, if you DONT have ABS, slam on the brakes and lock up all four tires.

      This will keep the car sliding in a straight line, instead of it arcing towards the barrier.



      Again, this will only work if your car doesnt have ABS.

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      04-17-2012 09:32 PM #218
      The sound of this crash made me cringe...


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      04-17-2012 09:59 PM #219
      That didn't sound good for the engine.

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      04-17-2012 10:27 PM #220
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      The sound of this crash made me cringe...
      The second I saw the tail step out, and he choked up on the wheel, and began sawing, I cringed. Gotta love driver induced oscillations.
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      04-17-2012 10:54 PM #221
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post

      1:42 - same CR-V as the video posted before

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      04-17-2012 10:59 PM #222
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      At 1:41 that black suv that gets trashed slides a little bit. That guy wanted to crash
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      04-17-2012 11:38 PM #223
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      The sound of this crash made me cringe...
      Quote Originally Posted by Brendan@bwalkauto View Post
      The second I saw the tail step out, and he choked up on the wheel, and began sawing, I cringed. Gotta love driver induced oscillations.
      I wanted to comment "cut your finger nails" on his video but although I don't understand German I managed to notice this top comment: "Fingernägel schneiden..."

    14. 04-17-2012 11:39 PM #224
      Quote Originally Posted by Brendan@bwalkauto View Post
      The second I saw the tail step out, and he choked up on the wheel, and began sawing, I cringed. Gotta love driver induced oscillations.
      What "Should" he have done? I want to know when I take my Carmy there. Srls, what should be have done? Slowly ease off the gas?
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      04-17-2012 11:46 PM #225
      Quote Originally Posted by Subwoofers View Post
      What "Should" he have done? I want to know when I take my Carmy there. Srls, what should be have done? Slowly ease off the gas?
      No sudden or sharp movements. He chopped off the throttle abruptly and then violently began to "saw" the wheel.

      What he should have done is keep the back tires spinning while counter steering and gently easing off the throttle while inputting equal amounts of reduction in counter steer to ease the car back straight.

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      04-18-2012 12:05 AM #226
      Quote Originally Posted by Subwoofers View Post
      What "Should" he have done? I want to know when I take my Carmy there. Srls, what should be have done? Slowly ease off the gas?
      The short answer is not sharply lift the throttle, and make timely inputs. Basically, when a car starts to oversteer, you want to make a quick and accurate steering correction, not let the slide develop, lift and make a sharp input.

      When oversteering, look where you want to go, slowly come off the pedals, and make a steering input that keeps the front tires pointed straight down the road. Feedback through the wheel will also let you know if you need more or less steering. Once the yaw rate isn't getting worse (you've caught the slide), momentarily pause your inputs, then as the car recovers from the slide, get your steering input out.

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      Pause
      Recover

      Skip Barber guys call it CPR for your car. Gotta warn you though, you should learn it on a skid pad, not on the track for the first time. You'll get it wrong for awhile until you practice it enough.

      Adam is right though about leaving the gas in, but that's for people who have the amount of car control required to get out of that situation. When you're learning, the best thing to remember is "if in doubt, both feet out." Later, when your car control improves, you can change it to "if in doubt, flat out."


      Quote Originally Posted by Adam144 View Post
      I wanted to comment "cut your finger nails" on his video but although I don't understand German I managed to notice this top comment: "Fingernägel schneiden..."
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      Quote Originally Posted by SivNiz View Post
      Have you ever been to the Terror Grill? Would you like to go?

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      04-18-2012 12:08 AM #227
      Quote Originally Posted by Brendan@bwalkauto View Post
      Adam is right though about leaving the gas in, but that's for people who have the amount of car control required to get out of that situation.
      That was rule #1 of Porsche 930 driving that I learned. It is very, very difficult to fight your instinctual reactions of a front engine RWD car but the same techniques can be applied safely to a RWD car.

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      04-18-2012 12:24 AM #228
      Quote Originally Posted by Adam144 View Post
      That was rule #1 of Porsche 930 driving that I learned. It is very, very difficult to fight your instinctual reactions of a front engine RWD car but the same techniques can be applied safely to a RWD car.
      First time I had an Elise get sideways in the rain, my brain was screaming "DON'T LIFT." Nobody else was in the car, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was actually saying it.

      I also talk to airplanes, so I might have. Haha
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      05-05-2012 09:45 PM #229
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

      A TCL'er tries to rent a car at the 'ring...




      Sounds like a typical american

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      05-05-2012 10:28 PM #230
      This E46 stuffs it pretty hard...


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      05-05-2012 10:40 PM #231
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      This E46 stuffs it pretty hard...
      Wow, that other BMW was milliseconds/inches away from getting a side window full of steaming coolant.
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      06-04-2012 06:50 AM #232
      I think ESP prevented this from becoming a much worse situation (full spin)...



      Any crash you can walk (run) away from is a good one!



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      06-04-2012 07:29 AM #233
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      I think ESP prevented this from becoming a much worse situation (full spin)...

      This guy definitely needs to start a thread complaining about how the ESP / electronic nannies are limiting his driving experience.

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      06-04-2012 03:43 PM #234
      Short of someone taking you out or losing grip due to bad track conditions I don't know how the hell anyone goes off the track...

      I must just be a big *****, but I don't think I have ever put my car in the position to shunt the armco.

      It must be the potential wrath of my wife that keeps me on the track.

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      12-28-2012 10:00 PM #235
      ...awesome compilation.

      This makes it very clear how the bikers become quick victims to oil/coolant spills.


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      03-17-2013 08:30 AM #236
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      03-17-2013 11:18 AM #237
      Morons waiting for the friends I bet that happens more than you'd think.

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      03-17-2013 01:30 PM #238
      I sure would want a lot of practice before I attempted the ring in a vehicle I owned. These videos made my day, so unfortunate yet so funny.
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      11-07-2013 06:32 AM #239
      This one is pretty brutal...



      Nice 2013 compilation...


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      11-07-2013 06:50 AM #240
      ^ E92 at the end hit HARD.

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      11-07-2013 07:11 AM #241
      Quote Originally Posted by ValidUsername View Post
      I sure would want a lot of practice before I attempted the ring in a vehicle I owned. These videos made my day, so unfortunate yet so funny.
      You don't need practice.

      1 Don't drive outside your skill level or the limits of your car.
      2 Don't make your first visit on a Saturday afternoon in July.
      3 Stay right. Stay right. Stay right.
      4 Don't get in the way of faster cars - that means every other car out there.
      5 Stay right.
      6 Don't drive like a dick
      7 Profit
      Last edited by NoDubJustYet; 11-07-2013 at 12:19 PM.

    32. 11-07-2013 11:26 AM #242
      It's always shocked me how quick people are to bring cars they have a lot of money into onto a really tough track and just put the gas down. It seems they have no awareness of vehicle dynamics or control......I mean except for the liquid spills, just about every crash would have been preventable of they had some idea how to drive a car. Even then, many of the cars that slide on liquids could have been saved if they hadn't hit the spill too fast and off the correct line...


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    33. 11-07-2013 11:40 AM #243
      Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
      You don't need practice.

      1 Don't drive outside your skill level or the limits of your car.
      2 Don't make your first visit on a Saturday afternoon in July.
      3 Stay left. Stay left. Stay left.
      4 Don't get in the way of faster cars - that means every other car out there.
      5 Stay left.
      6 Don't drive like a dick
      7 Profit
      I'm such a chicken I should probably bring a cardigan with me since I'd be driving like my Grandma (and yes I've done infinity laps in GT5 ).

      It is a puzzle how people get home after casing their DDs out there. I mean it's not like Nurburg is really close to anything. IIRC, Frankfurt is like 2 hours away!

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      11-07-2013 11:43 AM #244
      Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
      I'm such a chicken I should probably bring a cardigan with me since I'd be driving like my Grandma (and yes I've done infinity laps in GT5 ).
      The game helps you learn the course... No game accurately portrays elevation changes though.

      It is a puzzle how people get home after casing their DDs out there. I mean it's not like Nurburg is really close to anything. IIRC, Frankfurt is like 2 hours away!
      Take a taxi to Ahrweiler and then hop on a train... Or catch a ride home with a friend.

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      11-07-2013 12:03 PM #245
      In reference to that last video posted, seeing all those people sitting on that hillside is exactly why I've taken it easy going around that corner when driving the Ring. Seeing that video made me happy I did so.

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