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    Thread: UGR TT Gallardo wrecks leaving C&C Atlanta

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      04-03-2011 11:51 PM #51
      UGR cars use either AEM or MoTeC standalone engine management depending on options, and while a lot of them are run as RWD on the dyno I would imagine that most if not all go back to AWD after they have their power numbers. Anybody know if this was a 6 speed manual or E-Gear car?

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      04-04-2011 12:01 AM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Ben_S View Post
      while a lot of them are run as RWD on the dyno I would imagine that most if not all go back to AWD after they have their power numbers. Anybody know if this was a 6 speed manual or E-Gear car?

      I have a friend that has run at the Texas mile a few events and he is the one that told me they convert to RWD. (and run like that)

      Apparently they hang out over at 6speedonline if anyone cares enough to look.
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      04-04-2011 12:01 AM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      You can limit TQ for each gear, regardless of throttle position. Nobody ever mentioned WOT except you.
      The original question he answered regarded what happens with turbo boost when you feather the throttle, and how it's tough to limit or modulate once the turbos are spooling. It wasn't really about electronic limits for this, though everyone went on to point out how that can be done.
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    4. 04-04-2011 12:25 AM #54
      All turbos should be banned.

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      04-04-2011 12:36 AM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by MylesPH1 View Post
      The original question he answered regarded what happens with turbo boost when you feather the throttle, and how it's tough to limit or modulate once the turbos are spooling. It wasn't really about electronic limits for this, though everyone went on to point out how that can be done.
      No amount of electronic nannying can fix stupid.
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      04-04-2011 12:40 AM #56
      UGR's turbo setup makes for an insane powerband. Also with AWD, I wish someone took a video of them punting it off the road. 1,000++whp in these cars is no joke at all.
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      04-04-2011 03:00 AM #57
      The story:

      "This happened today at Caffeine & Octane here in GA. Owner (Name held back, I'd request the same if you know him) is a laid back and down to earth guy (was giving joy rides to 60 year old lady ). As he was leaving, stepped on it a little, car slid, spun around and jumped the curve. He wasn't even doing 20mph. Walked up to him and he was fine, but it turned out culprit was his shoe heel. Part of it came loose and as he stepped on the brakes, the loose part stayed partially on gas. Which kept him from full braking and gassed the car at the same time. He maintained his cool as people made fun of the situation, mad props to him for staying calm. We got together and helped him get the car out and on flat bed (it was a bitch to get in on). His last few lines were, "well gives me a reason to put some nice wheels and tint my tail lights lol."

      Damage: The rear frame snapped off clean where the control arm bolts on to. No under body damage, no leaks, and car fired right up. He said car is going in for repairs monday and should be back for next C & O.

      PS: Before some smart comments come up like, "needs to learn to drive." He has owned this for over a year, and his other cars include a built TT C6 Plastic mess-06 making 1200whp+. Just bad luck i would say.
      So apparently it was a wardrobe malfunction.

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      04-04-2011 08:11 AM #58
      Unintended acceleration?

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      04-04-2011 08:49 AM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by warrenW View Post
      isn't there a way around this though? BOV, wastegates, etc?

      (excuse my ignorance- i am not super well informed on turbo setups)
      You can use electronics to manage boost by gear, boost by RPM, whatever you want.


      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      When your boost pressure is below the threshold of your wastegate springs, you have no control over how the turbos spool.

      Run lighter springs and turn it up with a controller. Much more consistent with an electronic controller anyway.
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      04-04-2011 08:56 AM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by peloton's quote
      Damage: The rear frame snapped off clean where the control arm bolts on to.
      so these cars have detachable penii?

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      04-04-2011 09:00 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by sirswank View Post
      so these cars have detachable penii?
      LOL, nice throwback... makes me think of Beavis and Butthead

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      04-04-2011 09:15 AM #62
      PS: Before some smart comments come up like, "needs to learn to drive." He has owned this for over a year, and his other cars include a built TT C6 Plastic mess-06 making 1200whp+. Just bad luck i would say.
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      04-04-2011 09:34 AM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post

      Run lighter springs and turn it up with a controller. Much more consistent with an electronic controller anyway.
      I've already said you can have control issues at high RPM with softer springs.

      And of course you'd use an electronic controller. I'm pretty sure that's all done from the stand alone.

      You can program anything you want electronically, but that doesn't mean the system will respond perfectly. It's a closed loop system meaning it needs to read the boost and adjust the wastegates accordingly. Considering how quick these cars blow through the RPM band, that's not easy.

      Look at the power curve, it doubles horsepower and torque between 4k and 5k RPM. At part throttle, you're going to have a flat torque curve when the turbos don't spool. As you keep increasing the throttle, you'll eventually get spool in that region and the car will gain power. It will always be lumpy in that region.

      Big turbo cars will never have power curves and power delivery as smooth as a normally aspirated car. The more air you move with the turbo, the more difficult it becomes.


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      04-04-2011 09:35 AM #64
      Part of it came loose and as he stepped on the brakes, the loose part stayed partially on gas. Which kept him from full braking and gassed the car at the same time.
      He must wear Italian shoes too.

      (story sounds like bs to cover a dumb mistake.. but whatever)
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      04-04-2011 09:41 AM #65

      her son?


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      04-04-2011 10:20 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by MustacheGT View Post
      Did you hear/see that yellow C6 rumbling around?

      Also, it's moving to the other side of NP Pkwy next month since AMC whined about parking and there isn't enough parking in its current spot.
      I'm pissed I missed it this month

      Yeah I heard the movies were bitching b/c "people go to the movies early Sunday"...the meet seems to have grown since it moved up here from Roswell.

      Sad to see the Lambo get hurt

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      04-04-2011 10:35 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by Subwoofers View Post
      What happened?
      too much power combined with too little common sense and too little driving talent would be my guess

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      04-04-2011 11:16 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by MustacheGT View Post
      Did you get to see my 97 Accord?

      Did you drive your C5? What color is it?
      It's black. It was the only dirty Corvette in the show. It had #91 on the windsheild.

    19. 04-04-2011 11:27 AM #69
      Nothing of the actual crash yet but here's the tow off. Well...sort of.
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      Quote Originally Posted by xtravbx View Post
      No one was talking about crub sensors, whatever those are.

      And also, what are "fents, burshes, and briks." ?

      We must not have those in Florida.

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      04-04-2011 06:14 PM #70
      Summary of C&C in one picture. Pure craziness.


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      04-04-2011 06:15 PM #71
      And that was just the front lot.

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      04-04-2011 06:16 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by JustinCSVT View Post
      And that was just the front lot.
      When parking was full, it was funny to watch cars just drive up and down the rows and then park over by burger king.

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      04-04-2011 06:26 PM #73
      No one has posted the video yet?

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      04-04-2011 06:28 PM #74
      he looped it! he looped it!
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    25. 04-04-2011 06:29 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by zerind View Post
      No one has posted the video yet?

      love the "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" as the lambo disapears into the burshes.
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