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    Thread: Jeep and Mopar Take on the AEV Brute With the Wrangler JK8

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      04-07-2011 06:12 PM #1
      http://www.trucktrend.com/features/n...ent/index.html

      The JK8 Independence kit will be available this summer from Jeep/Mopar! No pricing yet.







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      04-07-2011 06:14 PM #2
      Just make it stop. It's like Chinese water torture, these Jeep pickups. Just ****ing put it in the dealerships already.
      Now go get your shinebox

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      04-07-2011 06:14 PM #3
      I really REALLY dig that.

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      04-07-2011 06:24 PM #4
      I like it, but Jeep should just quit pissing around and build their Nukizer 715 concept instead.



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      04-07-2011 06:30 PM #5
      That thing is way too wide! Look at the picture with the parking spaces that would never fly. Hummer got away with it, because there arent very many of them. It's still a cool truck concept though.

      Also wranglers have always been narrow for a reason. Something that big would be pointless unless you're in the desert or mud.

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      04-07-2011 06:35 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Keybordem View Post
      That thing is way too wide! Look at the picture with the parking spaces that would never fly. Hummer got away with it, because there arent very many of them. It's still a cool truck concept though.

      Also wranglers have always been narrow for a reason. Something that big would be pointless unless you're in the desert or mud.
      The Nukizer concept?

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      04-07-2011 06:37 PM #7
      this is exactly what i"m looking for!!!!!

      How much mopar!?
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      04-07-2011 06:52 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Señor Peligro View Post
      Just make it stop. It's like Chinese water torture, these Jeep pickups. Just ****ing put it in the dealerships already.
      Looks to me that it'll be available from the Mopar catalog. So I see no reason why I shouldn't start fapping like a macaque - erm, sorry, I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to recreate this truck yourself.
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      04-07-2011 08:29 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbiodiesel! View Post
      Looks to me that it'll be available from the Mopar catalog. So I see no reason why I shouldn't start fapping like a macaque - erm, sorry, I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to recreate this truck yourself.
      Come on now, it's not the same as buying one off the lot. It's not that difficult for Chrysler to make the pickup version on the regular assembly line. They should do it... I mean TCL is already guaranteed 4 or 5 sales.

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      04-08-2011 09:47 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW01 View Post
      this is exactly what i"m looking for!!!!!

      How much mopar!?
      The AEV Brute conversion for the TJ is around $9K. I would expect the JK8 to cost similar.

      http://www.quadratec.com/showcases/aev/brute/

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      04-08-2011 09:50 AM #11
      Don't find that attractive at all. It needs some styling to the bed.

      Step in the right direction, at least.
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      04-08-2011 09:51 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Keybordem View Post
      That thing is way too wide! Look at the picture with the parking spaces that would never fly. Hummer got away with it, because there arent very many of them. It's still a cool truck concept though.

      Also wranglers have always been narrow for a reason. Something that big would be pointless unless you're in the desert or mud.
      Aren't very many Hummers? What part of the world do you live in? They're as common as a Frod Focus around here.

      It has a standard Wrangler windshield. And some wider flares. It's no wider than most full sized pickups. And for those that do venture offroad, not all Jeep offroading requires a narrow Jeep.

      I'd take it over the JK8 any day, even if it meant I couldn't squeeze between trees.
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      04-08-2011 09:55 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      The AEV Brute conversion for the TJ is around $9K. I would expect the JK8 to cost similar.

      http://www.quadratec.com/showcases/aev/brute/
      im thinking it will be less since the brute also comes with a bed while the jk8 is just a cab close out it will prob be closer in price to a rubitrux conversion at $3k-$5k
      http://rubitrux.com/conversions.htm



      *also technically the rubitrux is just the cab closeout on the brute without removing the back half of the jeep and putting a bed on and the price includes labor
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      04-08-2011 10:24 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by PassSedanGLX View Post
      Don't find that attractive at all. It needs some styling to the bed.

      Step in the right direction, at least.
      Jeep has shown more refined concepts in the past, but those would have all needed to be factory built.




    15. 04-08-2011 10:26 AM #15
      I don't have anything constructive to add, but...

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      04-08-2011 10:29 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Chaos View Post
      im thinking it will be less since the brute also comes with a bed while the jk8 is just a cab close out it will prob be closer in price to a rubitrux conversion at $3k-$5k
      http://rubitrux.com/conversions.htm


      *also technically the rubitrux is just the cab closeout on the brute without removing the back half of the jeep and putting a bed on and the price includes labor
      The rubitrux "conversion" is simply a half-top. That's a TJ Unlimited with the half top on it, that's it. There's no "conversion" to be done. To make a BRUTE involves using a TJ Unlimited and cutting the tub, adding the bed, etc.
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      04-08-2011 10:29 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Keybordem View Post
      That thing is way too wide! Look at the picture with the parking spaces that would never fly. Hummer got away with it, because there arent very many of them. It's still a cool truck concept though.
      You shut your whore mouth!

      It's not that wide...it's on the line on the left and about 1.5-2' away from the right-side line. Full-size pickups are just as wide, if not wider and they are all over the place. Hummer didn't "get away" with anything...

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      04-08-2011 10:30 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      The AEV Brute conversion for the TJ is around $9K. I would expect the JK8 to cost similar.

      http://www.quadratec.com/showcases/aev/brute/
      The Brute conversion is a helluva lot more than $9k. Double that, and you're getting close, once all is said and done.
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    19. 04-08-2011 10:46 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by iamsuperdan View Post
      I like it, but Jeep should just quit pissing around and build their Nukizer 715 concept instead.

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    20. 04-08-2011 10:51 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbiodiesel! View Post
      The Brute conversion is a helluva lot more than $9k. Triple that, and you're getting close, once all is said and done.
      Fixed that for you, based on my co-worker who owns one he built himself.

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    21. 04-08-2011 10:55 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Adam144 View Post
      To make a BRUTE involves using a TJ Unlimited and cutting the tub, adding the bed, cutting and extending the middle of the frame (between the axles), cutting and extending the rear of the frame (behind the rear axle), etc.
      There's some extra insight for you.
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      04-08-2011 11:01 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbiodiesel! View Post
      ...Double that, and you're getting close, once all is said and done.

      Quote Originally Posted by TurboMinivan View Post
      Fixed that for you, based on my co-worker who owns one he built himself.
      That is if you also want the 5.7 Hemi, highline fenders, hood, etc. right? If you just want only the pickup conversion, but keep the 4.0 and the stock body panels and only put 31's on there, did all the fab work yourself, I assume it would cost considerably less, no?

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      04-08-2011 11:04 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboMinivan View Post
      There's some extra insight for you.
      That was part of the etc.

      But I appreciate sharin' the knowledge.
      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      yes, i am bored by FWD driving dynamics, and anyone who doesn't drive there cars to the limits and the beyond.

    24. 04-08-2011 01:01 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Quinn1.8t View Post
      That is if you also want the 5.7 Hemi, highline fenders, hood, etc. right? If you just want only the pickup conversion, but keep the 4.0 and the stock body panels and only put 31's on there, did all the fab work yourself, I assume it would cost considerably less, no?
      My co-worker retained the stock engine, transmission and axles. You can clearly see that he upgraded to the high fender kit, but remember: he got his hardware--all of it--at his company's wholesale cost... which means he didn't spend any more money at AEV than you would if you just bought the basic kit. So you aren't saving any money there compared to him.

      But what about the lift? He did all that installation himself (since he had years of experience doing this for his company), so there was no labor for that. The lift kit, again, he got for wholesale cost... so he spent less than you're thinking he did.

      The elephant in the room is the body shop labor. As I mentioned, you have to cut the frame in the center of the vehicle, graft in extensions, then you have to cut the frame at the rear and extend that, also. But what's worse is modifying the tub itself. This isn't some redneck sawzall maneuver you rush right through. You have to drill through lots of body welds, carefully separating the external body shell from the inner body, then make like a surgeon and cut both pieces so they match the Brute kit. Then you get to weld it all together and grind it smooth so it looks OEM. After that, prime, paint and clearcoat for a nice finish. (You did remember to completely gut the entire interior before you started, didn't you?)

      AEV claims the kit takes 60 hours to install. Matt says that would only be true if you already have experience building dozens of Brutes. For your first time out, Matt says it takes 200 hours of labor to do it right. Sure, you could half-ass it in a few places to try and save some time, but the end result would clearly demonstrate your impatience (or inexperience) and it would look... well, half-assed.

      Matt sums it up best when he says he cannot imagine someone building a Brute for less than $35,000 (including the donor Jeep, which he only paid $8500 for) since he is in his more than that. In my opinion, the only way you'd undercut that price is if you (a) are a professional body man with decades of experience so you don't have to farm out the body work, (b) an experienced mechanic who can properly modify suspensions and such so you don't have to farm that out, either and (c) you can also get all your parts from every vendor at wholesale cost.
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      04-08-2011 01:04 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Quinn1.8t View Post
      That is if you also want the 5.7 Hemi, highline fenders, hood, etc. right? If you just want only the pickup conversion, but keep the 4.0 and the stock body panels and only put 31's on there, did all the fab work yourself, I assume it would cost considerably less, no?
      What TM said - $9k might do you for the parts alone, but I've looked into Brutes, and they take significantly more specialist technical labor than AEV would have you believe.
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