# Thread: 4 door golf, my first VW

1. Well it looks as though bushings are a bad idea in the beam. Hmm maybe Ill have to make some with some spherical bearings.

2. to start. i LOVE this thread, i'm in school now training to become a machinist and this thread is so inspirational! keep up the great work!

and about the bushings, i dunno how well it would really work to have solid ones, i remember when someone posted a video of the original 1985 introduction of the mk2 and they explained that the bushings were designed to help corning by letting the beam kinda move and go with the front.

i'll try and find and mark the vid.

love this thing! get a front valence and its sex! the front looks angry!

3. Originally Posted by chrisgilmour
to start. i LOVE this thread, i'm in school now training to become a machinist and this thread is so inspirational! keep up the great work!

and about the bushings, i dunno how well it would really work to have solid ones, i remember when someone posted a video of the original 1985 introduction of the mk2 and they explained that the bushings were designed to help corning by letting the beam kinda move and go with the front.

i'll try and find and mark the vid.

love this thing! get a front valence and its sex! the front looks angry!
Thank you. I plan on building full suspensions one day when I understand them a little better.

I straightened my sheetmetal out under the bumper. I may paint it today if the rain lets up.

4. Originally Posted by Truckinduc
So when I start the car cold and drive it I get around 13.2 volts for the first few miles. Once its up to temperature I am only getting 12.8 volts.

Is there any test I can do to see if the alternator is going out?
Yes. Take a DC digital voltmeter. With the engine running put the negative probe on the alternator body and pierce the point of the positive probe through the + wire coming out of the alternator. You should get about 14.0 V, ±0.2V or so.

If you don't get that, the alternator is faulty.

If that voltage is good, then measure across these points:
• Between the + wire and the + post on battery.
• Between alternator body and - post on battery.
Both should be less than 0.05V (<0.02V would be even better); if either one is high, start measuring at closer points until you find where the significant voltage drop is occurring.

IMHO, the most likely culprit is a loose or corroded ground connection--on the engine, at the chassis, et al.

5. at startup, after jumping it, its getting 14.02 at the alternator and 13.85 at the battery.

after idling for 15 minutes the engine is up to 210* f. and im getting 13.68 at the alternator and 13.31 at the battery.

this shows that my in dash voltmeter is pretty accurate. so after a 20 minute drive it should be making around 12.5 at the battery which Im guessing is around 12.9 at the alternator.

All this is with lights and accesories turned off.

6. .16 between the alternator + and + post. .058 between alternator housing and - post.

7. .051 between - post and main ground at tranny bell housing. .01 between alt. casing and maing ground at bell housing.

I have found a crimp connector in the main + wire between the atl and battery + post. It didnt seem to have much effect on the voltage drop though.

Ill either shorten it to get rid of it or solder and shrinkwrap it.

From those numpers above it would lead me to believe there is a fault in the positive side wiring, but it confuses me why it would put out less and less power the farther I drove. Maybe the wires getting hot increases resistance?

8. 13.53 at alt after long drive. 12.98 at battery. Im going to replace the alt. + lead to the battery and see what happens. Its causing the most voltage drop.

also had a little mishap on the drive.

9. said mishap

10. Just heat it up and hammer it back to place.

Looks painful. What does this mishap go by the name of?

11. Not exactly. The entire subframe is destroyed. Looks like a crumple zone. It was thin to begin with because I drug it so much. Thats probably a good thing since it took the inpact instead of translating it into the frame and bending a frame horn. I hope the frame is still straight.

The mishap was a manhole cover that was just a little to tall. I had never hit it before though.

Its all good Ill have another subframe by the end of the week which will get extensive modifications.

I guess Ill be daily driving something else for a few weeks.

12. how have i only found this thread now?

amazing work! wish i had the tools to do this myself.

13. Those voltage drops are a bit on the high side. The problems are more likely in connections than in the wire (unless you can see that the wire is frayed or damaged). It's common for bad connections to worsen with heat, especially if they are corroded. But it at least seems that your alternator's OK.

14. Originally Posted by Truckinduc
Not exactly. The entire subframe is destroyed. Looks like a crumple zone. It was thin to begin with because I drug it so much. Thats probably a good thing since it took the inpact instead of translating it into the frame and bending a frame horn. I hope the frame is still straight.

The mishap was a manhole cover that was just a little to tall. I had never hit it before though.

Its all good Ill have another subframe by the end of the week which will get extensive modifications.

I guess Ill be daily driving something else for a few weeks.
I did the same exact thing, except in my case there were 3 little ones in a group. One took out the k frame and control arm just like yours, and another cover tore my drain plug out.

I love the build btw, its ****ing awesome. Dunno about that front end but i can dig it. Btw, i have almost no rubbing (only when puling into a parking spot i hear a little tire rub on the flares. I don't think i'm as low as you though, close for sure.

Would you be willing to sell the ball joint spacers? I want some desperately

15. Some of the damage

almost time for a new oilpan

and where she will be sitting for a few weeks.

16. Ouch man that looks like it hurt. Get that thing back on the road! put another 600K on it

17. Ouch.

18. started on my new control arms. Front mounts are these bushings, rear mounts will be hiems in a non stock location.

Should have a replacement subframe this weekend. Then I cut it up.

19. I like where this is going. Especially the rear end getting an independent setup.

20. that awesome parts you build! is possible to buy somme parts?

update after 13days!!

21. Originally Posted by Flipdriver80
Originally Posted by Flipdriver80
I didnt realize this **** was still "cool"... although im fairly certain it never was.
Originally Posted by Flipdriver80
please stop using the word haters...

im not hating because im jealous, im saying i dont prefer his way of modifying his car....
Get over yourself. Please by all means, show us the custom parts you machined for your own car.

OP-
Please keep posting pictures. You have a lot of skills that most here would kill for. I can't think of a better use for a 600k mile car that more than likely would have ended up being recycled

22. Originally Posted by Spray Junkie
Get over yourself. Please by all means, show us the custom parts you machined for your own car.

OP-
Please keep posting pictures. You have a lot of skills that most here would kill for. I can't think of a better use for a 600k mile car that more than likely would have ended up being recycled

^This.

There are people that may disagree with what he does.
But I'm also not the one custom fabricating parts for a 600k Mk2 to get it that low, so you know what?

We should sit back, shut up, and hope that this guy lets us watch him work on this, because anybody who i've ever showed this, whether they like VWs or not, has given props due to the knowledge and abilities shown.

amazing work.

23. Well like it or not this project is still ongoing. No physical work but I have almost finalized the design for the new control arms. Im also trying to figure out the largest brake rotors I can bolt up to the stock hubs singe I have some big 4 pot calipers I can use on the car.

That and more sheetmetal will be cut up, wider track, and lower.

24. I just wanted to post to say that you have some incredible skills.
Ignore all the haters trashing on you: they're the "buy it" type instead of the "build it" type - ergo, you have more talent in your left nut than 99% of them.

I'm not really a fan of the slammed look, never have been, but man, you turned a car that would likely have ended up crushed and turned it into quite the machine.

I wish you lived closer to me so you could show me a few things.

Can't wait to see what you do next.

25. Thanks man I appreciate it. Im looking for some mkIII spindles so I can make my own 11" brake system. In the mean time while the golf has been sitting I have been building my truck.

its got about 10x the work into It than I have put into the golf. Click this link if you want to see the entire build.

http://www.driftworks.com/forum/drif...k-skidder.html

26. Just finished reading through both your threads. Im completely blown away by your fabriaction skills! Keep up the good work, I cant wait to see your truck finished and the bike...rediculous!

27. Ill throw this in for good measure.

WANTED

cable shifter

MKIII hubs

drivers side inner door handle

rain gutters

28. Hey, just want to say that your fab work is really cool! I probably wouldn't do this stuff to my car but I'm very impressed and I think it's rad that you have the ability to do what you want with the car. It's indestructible!

29. Started pulling it apart

and bracing up my new subframe

30. worked on my manifold more. 3 runners made and tacked in. Last one will be the hardest.

31. i love all the rocks in the subframe lol

32. I have found gravel in my rain tray before. Makes me weary of not running a timing belt cover. At least its a non interferance motor.

33. Just read through this thread and the one you have on DW and simply amazed by your fab skills. Not a big fan of the look of the golf but all the custom work that has gone into it makes me completely forget about the look lol. And the truck you are building is insane!!! My hat is off to you

34. Holy **** man... Your Mazda's build thread blew me away. I hope one day I can come close to the kind of raw fabrication skills you have

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