2.0T Coilpacks and spark plug gap, trying random new stuff.

[gdoggmoney]

I wanted to but I tore my jetta apart for a new un-bent subframe, and then all sorts of stupid drama and it is still apart.

Meh.

[05GTIMarine]

heres the link to the new thread.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...Adapter-plates.

[erevlydeux]

If you guys want technical info, then get a spark plug gap tester. Find someone with an advanced coilpack tester. Call Bosch. Call Eldor.

Y'all have been asking for info but haven't taken many steps to actually test it out.

In the mean time, unless this thread magically gets a plethora of tech info, I'll post up findings and ideas to run them cleanly. It's still a collaboration thread more than anything.

[gdoggmoney]

A gap tester is not going to do much. pop a pack out, throw a dead plug in the cyl with no plug. Pop the injector harness to not wash gas into your oil and your bores........


Ground plug end, look at pretty spark. Expand gap until it stops sparking?

To get voltage we need equipment. I'm down to order it, but i've been a little busy with cars, work and kids to seek that. I asked for a link earlier, but nobody provided.

meh.




/* Edit */ So busy that i have supposed to been sending my manifold and dump tube t pagparts for 2 weeks to fab my Audi v-band 5857 kit. I still have not.

That also holds up the pagparts kit for my 02 1.8T Jetta...........

yeah I am that busy I can't get my stuff out to finish what I want.

[erevlydeux]

A gap tester is not going to do much. pop a pack out, throw a dead plug in the cyl with no plug. Pop the injector harness to not wash gas into your oil and your bores........


Ground plug end, look at pretty spark. Expand gap until it stops sparking?

To get voltage we need equipment. I'm down to order it, but i've been a little busy with cars, work and kids to seek that. I asked for a link earlier, but nobody provided.

meh.

Gap tester is the quick and dirty way to roughly test it. I'm also pretty sure I linked one or two HV probes for DMM usage as well.

EDIT: Hmm, looks like I simply remember searching but didn't actually link anything... here's a 1000:1 HV probe that should be good to 40kV.

http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CGYQ8wIwAw#

[Malant]

Installed last night, spark plugs gapped to .040, not a single misfire on my ko4-02x. Going to keep stepping it up and play with it some more on Monday.

Car idles better, not sure if I can tell a difference in throttle response as I have put a new chip, turbo inlet pipe etc on the car this week so it just feels great all around.

These really do work!!

[Vegeta Gti]

i'm still not sold completely..i ran my car @26psi last nite with the new tune and it's just fine.

and i have alot more goin on than most BT cars let alone stock turbo modified cars...2 of my coils are 7 or 8 years old, one is 2 years old and one is 4 months old

[Brightgolf]

Mine make my idle so much better (I have all stiff ass mounts) and the motor itself is peppier (before the turbo picks up). Acceleration is a lot smoother and I got rid of a vibration I'd usually get during hard acceleration. Definitely worth it to me at least.

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

Why the hell not I says... For the price of admission im surprised this hasnt been done before

[05GTIMarine]

i'm still not sold completely..i ran my car @26psi last nite with the new tune and it's just fine.

and i have alot more goin on than most BT cars let alone stock turbo modified cars...2 of my coils are 7 or 8 years old, one is 2 years old and one is 4 months old

it looks like its time for you to update all your coils so they are the same age. just do it. they are only 108 max from the dealership and you can be the only one with a big turbo setup.

[gdoggmoney]

i'm still not sold completely..i ran my car @26psi last nite with the new tune and it's just fine.

and i have alot more goin on than most BT cars let alone stock turbo modified cars...2 of my coils are 7 or 8 years old, one is 2 years old and one is 4 months old

All the cool kids are doing it. Come on, take a hit.

[erevlydeux]

All the cool kids are doing it. Come on, take a hit.

Do we have the part numbers for the MK6 2.0T coils? ECS doesn't even list any coilpacks for any of the MK VI cars. I wanted to grab one to compare to the MKV coilpacks.

p.s. You should update your original post with all the part numbers, etc. Digging through the 6 pages is a pain in the ass. That, or groggory should make an FAQ/edit his FAQ if he already has one.

[05GTIMarine]

Do we have the part numbers for the MK6 2.0T coils? ECS doesn't even list any coilpacks for any of the MK VI cars. I wanted to grab one to compare to the MKV coilpacks.

p.s. You should update your original post with all the part numbers, etc. Digging through the 6 pages is a pain in the ass. That, or groggory should make an FAQ/edit his FAQ if he already has one.

ive listed it multiple times.

06H-905-115

they are solid pieces no heat shield. i just installed mine on brightgolfs audi a4 so he can aleviate ignition issues. my car currently has my stock coils.


all i can say is that he has a huge grin on his face whenever i see him. his ignitoin problems are gone, on stock gap. we are going ot extend the gap to .042 when he gets out of work today hopefully. we will see.

[gdoggmoney]

Makes you wonder how many people have given up on these cars due to ignition issues, and FWD frustration.

[erevlydeux]

ive listed it multiple times.

06H-915-115

Where did you grab this from? It's not listed on any VW parts site. Suppose it could just be an issue with parts not being stocked yet from anywhere but dealers... but still curious.

[ejg3855]

Makes you wonder how many people have given up on these cars due to ignition issues, and FWD frustration.

TT resolves the Fail Wheel Drive, and I put the 07K coils on one of the TT's but its been pouring so haven't really pushed it.

[gdoggmoney]

I'll edit the first post tonight if I get time, if not in the next day or two. I need to get my jetta back together and give the wife her subaru back.

I'd drive a TT, but for big power i'm sketch on haldex.

I bought an A4 1.8TQ for that reason.

[05GTIMarine]

Where did you grab this from? It's not listed on any VW parts site. Suppose it could just be an issue with parts not being stocked yet from anywhere but dealers... but still curious.

sry for my typo i was taking it off of memory and messed up.

06H-905-115

[05GTIMarine]

I'll edit the first post tonight if I get time, if not in the next day or two. I need to get my jetta back together and give the wife her subaru back.

I'd drive a TT, but for big power i'm sketch on haldex.

I bought an A4 1.8TQ for that reason.

haldex can hold quite a bit as r32 run the same haldex and they are pushing 5-600 awhp out there. you should get the haldex controller and adjust it to true 50/50 or 40/60 first. then start pushing the power up thats what i would do

[Brightgolf]

Lol haldex is junk compared to quattro. I love my a4 in the snow. I called my tuner up back in the winter during a hue snow storm and the guy said "I could barely make it up the hill to the shop in my tt with four studded snows, theres no way you'll make it up." I drove up the hill no problem and into the garage with almost 2 feet of snow on the ground and the dude damn near **** himself when he saw I just had all seasons on.

[Vegeta Gti]

the NEW haldex is much much better..gen3 is gonna take alot more power and better control/responce.

money is tight or i'd buy a set..but the dealer down here..wants $64 each..sooo, no thanks

[05GTIMarine]

the NEW haldex is much much better..gen3 is gonna take alot more power and better control/responce.

money is tight or i'd buy a set..but the dealer down here..wants $64 each..sooo, no thanks

theres no fing way. 06H 905 115 are 25 bucks at every dealership ive called. call his bluff and ask to see the invoice. i sold mine to brightgolf as he is my room mate to get cash to fund more research.


MK6 coilpacks once again are p# 06H 905 115. theres nor revisions yet as these are the newest coilpacks out there.

[Vegeta Gti]

do you live in hawaii??

i went done there..this is typical man, their prices here are completely insane...i go tmy wholesale guy looking into his price..he gets wholesale pricesx100 lol

last time i bought an R coil...well the one...it was like $75 bucks dude... it's just how it is here labor rate is $130 or something..completely insane

[erevlydeux]

do you live in hawaii??

i went done there..this is typical man, their prices here are completely insane...i go tmy wholesale guy looking into his price..he gets wholesale pricesx100 lol

last time i bought an R coil...well the one...it was like $75 bucks dude... it's just how it is here labor rate is $130 or something..completely insane

Sucks hard. I'll snag you a set of coils if you want... at cost. Would probably be $75 shipped I imagine.

[Vegeta Gti]

i appreciate it..waitin for my buddy to get back to me..it takes him forever to return calls/text..but next day free delivery and shipping rules once he orders lol

i am not gonna enjoy trying to figure out gap for this **** btw...i run .024 currently and it runs beautifully.

[sabbySC]

I'd buy you some coils and mail them to you but I'm in Canada. Someone send him some coils, there is no need to be ripped off by the stealership!

[erevlydeux]

i appreciate it..waitin for my buddy to get back to me..it takes him forever to return calls/text..but next day free delivery and shipping rules once he orders lol

i am not gonna enjoy trying to figure out gap for this **** btw...i run .024 currently and it runs beautifully.

Well gap is just a matter of power, no? So, the more power, the bigger the gap you can run. The more exposed spark, the better chance of full on-time ignition. Boost obviously adds another variable, but it's easy enough to test.

Start out at a normal gap + a little extra. If you do .024 now on normal coils, .030 ought to be easily doable with these given the anecdotal evidence. Test it out... if it runs good, add another .005. Rinse and repeat until misfires happen. Back it down .002 or something and recheck. Repeat as needed until misfire free.

[Vegeta Gti]

that was the plan..but i won't be doin repeated remove and install on a hot head. i'll wait tilli have coils and a coupe sets of plugs with diff gaps, as i am also running colder plugs as well.

.030 def sound slike a good middle ground and have a set at .028 and .032...then of course my current setup...try each at 14psi..19psi and 26psi and see how she goes for a day each, unless issues occur

list of my mods for those who are interested:

worked AEB head(details with held)
cat 3651 cams
AWP block
IE rods
ARP hardware( head bolts, flywheel, fasteners,etc)
stock pistons with new rings
SEM amnifold port matched
80mm tb
treadstone manifold port matched
gt3071r .63
630cc
unitronic freshly updated software
02J TDi trans with peloquin

1984 Jetta GLi

so i will have considerably more oomph than most here to put these guys to the test with, i hope it proves something...once they are dialed and if there is a difference in reliability and such..it own't be shown for a looongg ass time...months and months down the road, considering i have A series coils still kicking...power diff should be immediate...if i can..and i have the setup for the 2.0 coils dialed..i will go back to my 1.8 setup for dyno and do an extra run with the 2.0 setup..all on 92 pump gas

[Vegeta Gti]

so my parts guy just said $50 each...

something isn't right here...how much did you guys say you can get OEM coils for each again?

[erevlydeux]

so my parts guy just said $50 each...

something isn't right here...how much did you guys say you can get OEM coils for each again?

I paid $15/piece for the black MKV 2.0T coils @ 1stvwparts.com. Is there something preventing you for ordering online?

[Vegeta Gti]

shipping...i usually write an email to peopel asking for usps flat rate..but most won't do it..and anything under 2lbs is usually about $30-40 buck sin shipping from ups or fedex..and it never takes a day either lol

trust me..3.5 years of dealing with this..get old..shipping is lame for us out here...makes me miss the mainland even more

no tracks..at all...zero..worst roads in the US...highest prices for everything yet worst quality...least pay and highest cost of living..


i can go on.

i thought the MKVI were a touch shorter than the MKV or did i miss read somewhere?

[erevlydeux]

shipping...i usually write an email to peopel asking for usps flat rate..but most won't do it..and anything under 2lbs is usually about $30-40 buck sin shipping from ups or fedex..and it never takes a day either lol

trust me..3.5 years of dealing with this..get old..shipping is lame for us out here...makes me miss the mainland even more

no tracks..at all...zero..worst roads in the US...highest prices for everything yet worst quality...least pay and highest cost of living..


i can go on.

i thought the MKVI were a touch shorter than the MKV or did i miss read somewhere?

Sounds like the perfect reason to get the heck out and come back across the pond.

At any rate, if you want, I'll get you them at cost and do USPS flat rate. Shoot me a PM if you're down and we can work out the details. I'll nab you whatever you want, red/black MKV, black MK6, etc. I'm not entirely sure on the length differences, if any, as I haven't picked up the red MKV coil/black MKVI coil for comparison yet.

[Vegeta Gti]

i'm tryin to get a job..but it seems when i send my resume to people..they don't even look at my address, they get all interested, i get my hope sup then they see i am in hawaii..then they never respond back or don't answer calls.

if someone is serious to hir eme, i would fly in for an interview and move..wife would stay here for awhile,etc.

anyway...i'll pm ya later

[erevlydeux]

i'm tryin to get a job..but it seems when i send my resume to people..they don't even look at my address, they get all interested, i get my hope sup then they see i am in hawaii..then they never respond back or don't answer calls.

if someone is serious to hir eme, i would fly in for an interview and move..wife would stay here for awhile,etc.

anyway...i'll pm ya later

What's your area of expertise? If you happen to be a software engineer/QA engineer/software project manager/UI engineer.... we have openings at my company in Boston.

[Vegeta Gti]

that is def not it lol i went to school and boston..love the place but wouldn't live there...i have been searching the areas we prefer and some we don't..my wife still refuses to leave her job and get one on the mainland, and i see where she is coming from, but she is most def the bread winner. lol

anyway...back on topic