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    Thread: My Fiat 126 bis: let me show you it.

    1. Member Lupo TDI's Avatar
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      05-08-2011 04:53 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by feliks View Post
      Oh, yes, Fiat 126
      Long ago, in my garage lab 126.6.




      Regards Andrew

      What were you trying to do to the engine? I spot an electrical fuel pump, right?

      You and vdubchaos:

      Why does my car not want to start?? Any hints/tips/ideas?

    2. 05-08-2011 07:00 PM #27
      Way cool
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    3. 05-09-2011 12:27 PM #28
      Awesome car!

      Anyone have an idea of how I would be able to import one to the United States?

      My Family in Poland has one that my uncle drove, but he passed away and the car just sits in the barn now. Its a 1988, Bought brand new and maintained perfectly. I told my Aunt I'd pay for the car because I really want to keep it in the family. I just do not really know where to start if I want to bring it over.
      I know it still has 2 more years to qualify for the 25 year import rule, but would there be any other things to know?
      I know, I know, this would probably be a waste of money to bring it over, but the sentimental value is far greater to me.

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      05-09-2011 01:34 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      It weights 620kg more or less, quite light so if I ever manage to get 30-40ish hp out of it it should be fun!
      If you squeeze 40 hp out of that, it should be a blast to toss around. What we here in the States call a 40 horse VW engine, is 34 DIN hp. They're a little slow, but if you dropped 300 lbs off of it (where your car is right now) it would get around pretty well, indeed! Add another 6 hp and you'd have a very entertaining little car.
      Quote Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
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      05-09-2011 04:44 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      If you squeeze 40 hp out of that, it should be a blast to toss around. What we here in the States call a 40 horse VW engine, is 34 DIN hp. They're a little slow, but if you dropped 300 lbs off of it (where your car is right now) it would get around pretty well, indeed! Add another 6 hp and you'd have a very entertaining little car.
      Yeah, most definitely :-)

      This is my inspiration:



      It belongs to my neighbour's brother, I had once a ride in it and well... I am already grinning Fun, fun fun is all I can say.

      A beetle is still something I'd love to own, but who knows, maybe I'll stick to classic two cylinder Fiats

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      05-11-2011 01:20 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      This is my inspiration:



      It belongs to my neighbour's brother, I had once a ride in it and well... I am already grinning Fun, fun fun is all I can say.

      A beetle is still something I'd love to own, but who knows, maybe I'll stick to classic two cylinder Fiats
      That's a pretty cool car, too. I, like you, love lightweight simple cars that are fun to work on and sometimes modify. There's nothing like them!
      Quote Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
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      05-13-2011 09:32 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      That's a pretty cool car, too. I, like you, love lightweight simple cars that are fun to work on and sometimes modify. There's nothing like them!
      Yep, good plain and simple cars!

      And on that note: Just got it going again! Turns out the spark plugs were black and thus not giving spark anymore. I cleaned them and now the car runs like a charm, well, at least for a parallel-twin engined car! I just have to understand why the sparks got so black in the first place. The carburetor has not yet been adjusted so I uess that plays a big part in the equation. My guess is: too rich. Am I right?

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      05-15-2011 03:23 PM #33
      So yesterday evening at 22PM my GF and I we tightened all the screws and bolts belonging to suspension arms etc. down to the correct torque figures. After that a test drive was of course needed, in an unregistered car... We drove off, we wanted to get some gas, as the fuel tank was almost empty after all the trials done previously. So, 400 metres later (that is roughly 1300 feet for you) we get to the station, fill up the "cookie box" with a whoppping 15 liters (4 gallons), then proceed to fill up a jerry can. It was there that I noticed that petrol was spilling out of my car... great.

      I proceed to pay then we drive off. In the rear view mirror I see that the spill stopped. "Good thing" I think to myself while making a right turn. And there I clearly see it on the road: It spills again... The following happened: The hose for the air circulation came off at the tank and the tank and filler neck being on the left side of the car, every time I made a right turn petrol came out I think one of these on each door is appropiate:

      So this morning we took off the tank and fixed that too with a new hose clamp. Let's hope this was the last problem it had. I want to get it to the Tüv by june. And today, after everything with the tank was fixed again a new test drive was made: --> It's so loud, so slow, so fast in reactions, so everything so different than the other cars that it just puts a smile on your face!
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      05-27-2011 02:04 PM #34
      Today I bought a Gunson Colortune "transparent" spark plug. If you're not familiar with them: they have a transparent collar around the center ceramic shaft so you can see the color of the combustion. Depending on the color your engine is running either too rich or too lean or more or less correctly. II had the choice to buy this one, buy a CO gas tester for 4 times the price or get a tow truck to collect the car and bring it to a shop and back. The plug was definitively cheaper. Next week when I'll be in Luxembourg I'll be able to try it out.

      Here's what you get:



      The black tube can be used if the environment is too bright; there's a mirror on one end so you can see what happens in your motor. There's an extension as well otherwise you'd hide the spark plug with the rubber thingy on your spark cable.



      In this sequence you can see the transparency of the plug:









      In the meantime I contacted Fiat Deutschland and asked them for a "birth certificate" for my car and they replied they're looking for it, yay!!! My g/f already asked me why I'm smiling like an idiot I must admit I didn't think it would be that easy to get one, but that's a great service. I haven't been able to get one through Fiat Luxembourg/Belgium, nor was I able to get the technical data sheet, or a copy of, from the luxembourger motoring departement.

      Tomorrow I will pick up a water cooler from another fiat-126-forum-user as mine is leaking. I will install it and will try to get mine fixed in order to have a spare.

      Next week I will also try to install the floor carpet properly and the remaining trim pieces and then it should be ready to go.

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      05-27-2011 02:13 PM #35
      Keep at it.

      What an awesome little car.

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      05-31-2011 02:27 AM #36
      Small update:

      I've been collecting parts from some "fiat-126-forum.de" users last weekend; I now have a watertight water-cooler with fan, a rear window with the connections for the heater wires still attached to it, a soft grommet for said window; the original "biodegradable (and therefore really really rare)" rear shelf for covering up the boot and wayyyy more important to install some loudspeakers and a grommet for sealing the bootlid off. I am going to use the original shelf as a template and I'm going to make one out of wood.





      I met two very nice people, one of them has one of the first air-cooled ones and thus he could even register it as an historical car and the other one has a watercooled one with 36hp, so that's like 35% more than mine! He used another cam, another carburetor and some other smaller things, me likey!

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      05-31-2011 10:41 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      ...every time I made a right turn petrol came out
      I love it!
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      i'd lock this thread but i have no clue how...

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      05-31-2011 02:23 PM #38
      Keep pluggin' away at it. How close are you to being ready for the TÜV inspection?
      Quote Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
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      05-31-2011 03:51 PM #39
      I will!

      Theoretically it should be all right after this week-end. If the cooling system will be leak-free that is. And no other problem comes out... Oh yeah, the exterior mirror issue is still there. But I guess I will weld 2 nuts either on the outside of the door or better on the inside and that should be good.

      Then, when I'll have that paper from Fiat Germany (they're working on it, I still can't believe it!) I even might be able to register the car in Luxembourg, after all. In that case, it's a matter of days. If not, I will have to organise a tow truck or a flatbed or something to get the car to Bitburg or Trier (the nearest Tüv to Luxembourg where the car is located right now), where they will check every single technical bit to see if it is up to spec and then, with that paperwork, I can register the car at the DMV here in Aachen where I live. I don't need to have the car with me at that moment as they can see that the car conforms to the regulations on the Tüv documents. There I will get my german plates and documents and the next time I'm in Luxembourg I'll just have to switch the plates. I am actually hoping for the Luxembourger variant right now... faster and probably cheaper too. But who cares now... all I want is my summer in the Fiat!

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      06-05-2011 04:36 PM #40
      I just got back to Germany after having spent the Weekend at my Parents' in Luxembourg and found this envelope in the mailbox:



      I opened it and this is what I found:



      Hell Yes, an official document with all the technical data that's needed for a registration!!!

      Back to friday now:

      I started with the "glass plug" to adjust the fuel mixture. Unfortunately I didn't take pictures, it was too cranmped and I didn't want to keep the cam too long near the exhaust tubes but it works. Yellowish flame for a too lean mixture, nice blue flame for the correct setting and a blue-whiteish flame for a too rich mixture. Then I was cleaning the new old radiator as I heard a louder-than-normal exhaust approaching; I look up and see this:



      My nephew's new ride, a brand-spanking new Fiat 500 Abarth esseesse in pearl white and Sabelt sport seats. So, of course a few pictures were taken and a test-drive was due. It's all right that I'm not used to drive powerful cars, but I have driven the old Renault Clio Sport with te 2.0 N/A engine producing 170ish hp as well as various 1.8T/1.9TDI sport hatches and as far as I can remeber, none impressed me this much. Yes, it has torque steer and depending on the situation even a lot of it, but I guess you'd learn to live with it. The seats are perfect for me, the shift feel is good too, it really feels different from a normal, non-Abarth 500 (or even Fiat). And of course, I could get used to make 80% of the cars I encounter disappear from the rear-view mirror at the push of the go pedal

      Some pics:












      tiny turbo - massive satisfaction!


      Back to "work"; the cooler:


      The engine bay without cooler and fan:




      Yours truly:


      The family stable: The Fiats, my dad's VW T5 California Camper and my Brick


      Then, on Saturday I decided to change the rubber seals around the driveshafts at the gearbox as they had become hard and slowly but steadily gearbox oil was coming out of them. First thing to do: out with the old oil. No problem with that. Then, on to the seals. Drivers side: No problem. Passenger side: The Starter motor is in the way... So, out with the starter motor. But to do this, the exhaust has to come off... So, this whole procedure took its time and to add insult to injury the oil fill bolt was tight. Really tight. So tight that I rounded the head (a 1/2" square btw...) So, I went to bed and today I found a nut that would just fit on the rounded square and I welded it on. I was finally able to untighten it, fill in the oil, screw in the bolt, put on the seal, reinstall the starter motor and the exhaust. Somewhere in-between but before reinstalling the exhaust I asked my gf (who was helping me with all of this and helping me staying cool... Thank You!) to start the engine... the look on her face - priceless! Never thought it could be that loud!

      Gearbox - passenger side:


      The infamous plug:



      Things left to do: Rear bumper mount, interior, driver's side mirror and some TLC for the body so it looks good for the Tüv. Next weekend I should be able to fix those.
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      06-06-2011 12:41 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      The infamous plug:



      Things left to do: Interior; driver's side mirror and some TLC for the body so it looks good for the Tüv. Next weekend I should be able to fix those.
      You'd better grind-down that weld on the plug and paint it, you know how the TÜV is!
      Quote Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
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      06-06-2011 03:16 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      You'd better grind-down that weld on the plug and paint it, you know how the TÜV is!
      Hehe, I think I'd be rabid if they refuse the car only because of that...! But I just ordered a new one.

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      06-06-2011 03:18 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      Hehe, I think I'd be rabid if they refuse the car only because of that...! But I just ordered a new one.
      Quote Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
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      06-11-2011 05:22 PM #44
      Mirror is fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I used two M6 blind rivet nuts and the right drill (9.1mm) and it seems to work like a champ! Not a lot of updates for today, I was busy installing a cruise control in my brick (which doesn't work yet...) but expect more by this time tomorrow.

      Oh, I have found and ordered an H4 transparent glass headlamp upgrade; can't wait till they arrive
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      06-14-2011 02:15 AM #45
      So the interior is almost done (loudspeakers are missing). Unfortunately the carpet is a wee bit too short, you can see it on the driver's side. Maybe I'll have to look for a glove-box out of an RHD car, that would definitely do the trick I think.







      Things that were done: door stop on the pass. side has been soldered on (quite badly, but to do it properly the fender must come off...), the front trunk has been cleaned up, I put the jack, the spare wheel and the rubber bands fixating these two items back in, the rear right bumper fixation has been repaired and I tried to seal a leak on the gearbox again. It still leaks, but only if it is parked on the slope. If it's on the flat (ie in the garage) there's no problem now.
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      06-19-2011 06:08 PM #46
      A little vid of me starting the car:



      The idea to mask the mising carpet on the driver side is a no-go, after some measurements I found out I couldn't move my left leg anymore if I put a box there...

      And keep the fingers crossed, friday is the day I'll be trying to get it through Tüv inspection to register it.
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      07-08-2011 09:48 PM #47
      Best of luck with registration, and thanks for sharing. What an awesome little car

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      Bump for updates!

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      09-28-2011 05:29 PM #49
      That is my favourite car in here

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      Quote Originally Posted by manol2 View Post
      That is my favourite car in here
      You even said it with some weird European accent/spelling.

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