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      05-04-2011 07:10 PM #1
      I activated auto window up on my friends MkV Jetta and I've since become re-obsessed with adding the rain and light sensor to my MkVI Golf TDI.

      I can find absolutely nothing about fitting the OEM system to this chassis.

      Can anyone here shed some light on this?

      I've found info for the MkV retrofit..but not for MkVI (http://furmanka.blogspot.com/2008/08...-lusterko.html)

      They show a RLS with the pinouts:


      With only 3 pins...this can't be too complicated...right?

      How do I find out where to connect this to the CECM? What else is needed? New wiper stalk?

      I've gotten a quote from a place like Safelight Auto Glass, and they "claim" that they have the correct windshield. If my windshield cracks...I would seriously consider replacing with the RLS windshield and being the guinea pig.

      Thoughts?/Info?

      EDIT: I'll be updating this with info on the install

      I didn't take as many pictures as I should have, but I'll do my best to fill them in as I have more time.

      To add the RLS you will need:
      -RLS harness (you can make your own, but I ordered mine from Kufatec.com)
      -Rain and Light sensor (1K0-955-559-M or newer)
      -Auto headlight switch
      -Repair wire (000-979-021)
      -2 5A mini fuses
      -Wire hangar
      -zip ties
      -Auto dimming rear view mirror (part#)
      -Access to VCDS (vagcom)

      Tools:
      -T20 driver
      -Trim removal tool (or flathead screwdriver...just be careful)

      RLS Harness:
      The RLS harness has 7 pins wired up (3 pins in the RLS, 4 pins in the auto dimming mirror). There are 2 pins NOT wired in the mirror section. These 2 missing wires are for auto dimming side view mirrors. This feature will require additional wiring that I will not cover here.

      Procedure:
      1. Install Kufatec harness
      -Remove "AIRBAG" cover on driver's side A pillar
      -Remove T20 screw located behind "AIRBAG" cover
      -Pull pillar cover away from pillar, being careful not to mess with the airbag!
      -Remove 2 T20 screws on each side of the sun visor. Remove visor
      -Remove trim around bluetooth microphone and buttons. Use your trim removal tool to pop out this panel
      -Now, remove the trim around the sunroof switch, again using your trim removal tool
      -Locate the two T20 screws closest to the sunglass holder, remove them
      -Depress the two tabs adjacent to the screws and lower the switch assembly
      -Place harness so that the connectors extend down the windshield to where the base of the rear view mirror is
      -Fish the shortest wire of the harness through the headliner and into the sunroof switch assembly
      -Locate the blue 6-pin connector on the switch assembly, notice that pin 6 is empty!
      -Open the 6-pin connector and insert the pin into slot 6. This wire tells the auto-dimming rear view mirror when the dome light is on so that the mirror will disable auto-dimming
      -Slightly pull down headliner and hide the harness inside, working your way over to the A-pillar
      -Run the harness down the current wires that run down the A-pillar, zip tie together
      -Unfold hanger and fish hanger through to the CECM. I started from the CECM to the pillar, I found it was easier to go from the bottom rather than the top
      -Tape the harness to the hanger and pull the harness through
      -Reassemble the sunroof switch assembly
      -Reassemble the A-pillar

      2. Wire harness into the fusebox
      The repair wire will allow you to add two fuses to the fusebox. One fuse will be for the RLS and the other for the auto dimming rear view mirror.

      The RLS needs constant power, the auto dimming mirror needs switched power.

      I had 1 available spot in my fusebox for the RLS. I don't have a single available spot for the mirror. I still am figuring this out.

      -Follow this DIY to add a fuse to the box:
      http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62584

      -Find a screw and connect the ground. I used a screw in the fusebox as everything in the fusebox was unpainted and seemed to be a good ground

      At this point, you have 4 of the 6 wires connected (dome switch wire, RLS power, mirror power, common ground).

      3. Wire remaining signal wires:
      -Remove the T20 torx screw securing the OBDII connector
      -Locate the white plug in the CECM
      -Remove white plug and tap the RLS signal wire into wire 33. On my car, this wire was purple with a white stripe
      -Wire reverse signal wire for auto dimming mirror using the same procedure. This is connected to pin 28 of the black connector.

      Now the entire harness is completely wired up. Stick some fuses in the fusebox and close everything up

      4. Install auto headlight switch:
      -In the off position, push in the switch and turn clockwise to release the switch, pull out.
      -Remove old switch and connect auto switch and install

      5. Install RLS:
      -Install new windshield
      -Install RLS
      -Connect harness to RLS and mirror
      -Install mirror and cover up wires with trim pieces

      6. Code using VCDS:
      Here I will cover options that are REQUIRED for functionality and also options that are optional.

      Required:
      09 - Central electronics
      Byte 17, bit 4 "Assistance driving light (ADL) active"
      Byte 21, bit 5 "Rain/light sensor (RLS) installed"

      Optional:
      09 - Central Electronics
      Byte 17, bit 3, 5, 6

      09 - Central Electronics/RLS coding
      Byte 0, bit 0, 2 (rain closing and highway driving light)

      I will update this as I take more picture and video
      Last edited by toasters; 10-05-2011 at 05:25 AM.

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      05-04-2011 07:26 PM #2
      The RLS mirror has a different mount, so it needs a different windshield.

      Unless safelite is saying that the mkv and mkvi use the same windshield, there hasn't been a North American Golf/GTI with a RLS, so there's no windshield. Maybe when the R goes on sale?

      I know what you mean, I got out of a CC loaner and I miss it now. If my windshield cracks, I'm going to take a serious look at if the JSW uses a MKV Jetta windshield because I think that's my only hope.

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      05-04-2011 07:36 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by aenea View Post
      Unless safelite is saying that the mkv and mkvi use the same windshield, there hasn't been a North American Golf/GTI with a RLS, so there's no windshield. Maybe when the R goes on sale?
      I dunno...but they say they have it.


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      05-04-2011 08:28 PM #4
      Does your car have OEM HIDs from the factory?
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      05-04-2011 08:57 PM #5
      OK! If you can get one, the wiring diagram I have says the rls goes to a LIN bus pin on on N33, which would be pin 33 on the white plug. There will already be a wire there, you need to tap in to it.

      You don't need a new wiper stalk, once you tell the car you have a rls, the interval switch adjusts the rain sensor sensitivity.
      Last edited by aenea; 05-04-2011 at 09:25 PM.

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      05-04-2011 11:04 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by aenea View Post
      OK! If you can get one, the wiring diagram I have says the rls goes to a LIN bus pin on on N33, which would be pin 33 on the white plug. There will already be a wire there, you need to tap in to it.

      You don't need a new wiper stalk, once you tell the car you have a rls, the interval switch adjusts the rain sensor sensitivity.
      What is in 33 now?
      OEM+ Bi-Xenon HIDs | Front & Rear Fogs | Highline CECM | Euroswitch | RNS-510 HW:08 SW:1140 w/ Software VIM | Backup Camera | 9W7 | Dash Cubby | Aspherical Mirrors | GTI Steering Wheel w/ .:R Badge | GTI 6MT Shift Knob | GTI E-Brake Boot | GTI Pedals | GTI 18" Detroits
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      05-04-2011 11:50 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Code3VW View Post
      Does your car have OEM HIDs from the factory?
      Yes, I have OEM HIDs. Does this make a difference when adding the RLS?

      Quote Originally Posted by aenea View Post
      OK! If you can get one, the wiring diagram I have says the rls goes to a LIN bus pin on on N33, which would be pin 33 on the white plug. There will already be a wire there, you need to tap in to it.

      You don't need a new wiper stalk, once you tell the car you have a rls, the interval switch adjusts the rain sensor sensitivity.
      Does the "intermittent" mode on the stalk become the "auto" mode?

      Also, would simply adding an auto headlight switch enable auto headlights? I assume that single wire carries signal for both the rain and light sensor?

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      05-05-2011 12:19 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by toasters View Post
      Yes, I have OEM HIDs. Does this make a difference when adding the RLS?
      It might have made a difference if 33 didn't already have a wire in it...oem hids = highline cecm.
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      05-05-2011 06:39 AM #9
      Kufatec harness

      I guess it includes a description on how to install it too

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      05-05-2011 07:03 AM #10
      The LIN bus connection to the wiper motor. The RLS taps in to that connection. Here's the wiring diagram:



      And yeah intermittent mode becomes auto mode and the auto headlight switch gets its information from the same connection.

      Quote Originally Posted by Code3VW View Post
      What is in 33 now?

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      05-05-2011 02:34 PM #11
      hey guys,

      i installed the auto rear view mirror and rain (light) sensor in my 2006 mkv jetta 2.0T a few years ago before i sold it. to reiterate most of the other posts, you do have to replace the glass and purchase the auto rear view mirror, two connectors, cables (20-22 awg), and 3 cable routing housing pieces that house the harness from mirror to the headliner. you will need to connect it up to the lin bus, ground and fuse box. you can also add the auto light switch and the anti dazzle side mirrors that also run off the rain (light) sensor. all this will also need to be turned on by programming the VAG-COM (VCDS).

      the auto dim mirror is much, much nicer than the basic flip one. i recently purchased a new 2011 golf tdi and it's frustrating going back to the night glare of flip mirror, but i am not crazy about changing the glass w/o damage. Be sure you get OEM glass. You may also want to touch base with malooshack who runs the furmanka link from the post above. He is very knowledgeable with these type of OEM upgrades and also sales pre-built harnesses.


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      05-05-2011 05:05 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Chroptus View Post
      Kufatec harness

      I guess it includes a description on how to install it too
      Nice find! I think I'll be picking this up in a few days and see how complicated the install instructions are (hopefully I can translate them to english).

      Quote Originally Posted by aenea View Post
      And yeah intermittent mode becomes auto mode and the auto headlight switch gets its information from the same connection.
      Is additional wiring to the headlight switch necessary?

      What information is being sent to the side mirrors? And what is an "anti-dazzle" mirror?

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      05-05-2011 06:02 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Chroptus View Post
      Kufatec harness

      I guess it includes a description on how to install it too
      Kufatec is charging 59 EUR for shipping. OUCH!

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      05-06-2011 02:46 PM #15
      Is additional wiring to the headlight switch necessary?
      No additional wiring, but you do need to replace the standard switch with one with the "auto" option and program the VCDs to know that it is installed.



      What information is being sent to the side mirrors? And what is an "anti-dazzle" mirror?
      Light information from the rain/light sensor. The rain/light sensor senses rain and light. The rain is just determined from the amount of light that reflects off the water beads to the speed. Amount of sensitivity is set on what used to be the intermittent setting on the wiper stalk.The light sensor also determines whether it is day or night to turn on your headlights and auto dimming in the mirror. The sensor can also be set with VCDs to The anti-dazzle are just a fancy VAG name for side mirrors with auto dimming. So the sensor connector has 3 data connections/pins. 1 to the center rear view mirror and 1 to each side mirror. I think the euro anti-dazzle mirrors also have the puddle entry light underneath them and the ability to fold, but there may be three versions in all. I ended up putting the package 1 and up US Jetta 2005.5 mkv with puddle lights on my mkv, but no folding or anti-dazzle for about $200 each.

      The price for the folding anti-dazzle side mirrors were really high several years ago (i.e. $500 and up) and they did not work with my 2006 electronics, but I would expect them to work with the Golf VI. There are also other neat euro only features like the lower door entry lights (i.e. instead of reflectors on US version), headlight washers, chirp alarm, window/sunroof closing with rain sensor, etc that the highline CECM system supports.
      Last edited by davidch; 05-19-2011 at 08:03 PM.

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      05-12-2011 07:59 PM #16
      I'm going to start collecting parts and would like to find part numbers for everything I need

      I think I'll need:
      -Rain and light sensor
      -New rear view mirror
      -Trim pieces to cover up wiring to sensor


      Any other pieces?

      Anyone have access to ETKA and can lookup these part numbers for me?

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      05-12-2011 08:45 PM #17
      This what you're looking for?



      and the mirror

      Last edited by Tweak3D; 05-12-2011 at 09:19 PM.

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      05-12-2011 09:52 PM #18
      Beautiful...thanks.

      Trying to visualize what piece 27 is. I really hope I'm not missing any parts in this retrofit.

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      05-12-2011 11:04 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by toasters View Post
      Beautiful...thanks.

      Trying to visualize what piece 27 is. I really hope I'm not missing any parts in this retrofit.
      27 and 28 are both plastic trim pieces (top and bottom) which cover the wires from the sensor itself to the headliner. Color is Satin Black. You will probably need the wiriting for it, but I'd say kufatec would probably be the easiest. I am interested in this retrofit too, but I cannot get anyone to confirm the part number for the glass on a JSW . Ill help out any way I can though as I assume the parts outside of the glass will be the same.

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      05-13-2011 12:29 AM #20
      I hate to be a debbie downer here, but have you ever had a car with auto wipers? My trailblazer had them, and I hated them. It looks like it's a lot of work, it'd really suck to add them, then regret it.

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      05-13-2011 12:02 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Tweak3D View Post
      You will probably need the wiriting for it, but I'd say kufatec would probably be the easiest.
      You can also get the harness off German e-bay. Go to http://stores.ebay.de/tuning-fanatic...d=231978854817 and type in 'golf 5 regensensor' (without the quotes). I've got one on order. It cost $43 plus $14 shipping and was well worth it for me since I'm not keen on creating my own wiring and connections. Just be sure to use Google translate (I just cut and pasted the web site wording into the Google translator).

      I've got everything I need, other than the just-ordered harness (there's a great DIY on the MKV forum to install the mirror below the space where the current one is) but am balking at removing the existing mirror due to the threat of breaking the glass so I might wait until the first rock-induced crack and I need the glass replaced.

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      05-13-2011 06:57 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Tweak3D View Post
      This what you're looking for?

      and the mirror
      Actually I'm showing completely different part numbers...the parts you have appear to be for the Golf Plus (like the VW Fox).

      Here's what I show:


      And for the mirror:

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      05-13-2011 08:48 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by toasters View Post
      Actually I'm showing completely different part numbers...the parts you have appear to be for the Golf Plus (like the VW Fox).
      toasters,

      you are correct. these ones posted by tweak3d are incorrect and are for golf plus. i noticed it at work, but wanted to check when i got home to be sure. the ones you posted directly above are correct for the mkvi golf. the golf tdi oem match would be the two tone statin black back/pearl grey front (i.e. SMA). you will need parts #15 and #16 on sensor page and parts #15, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22. Note, that #22 clips in the headliner and requires a small "U" shape cut into the headliner. the rain sensor connector has 3 pins. one pin is for the CECM wire, the other two are optional to run wires to the side mirrors. there is also a connector for the mirror that i don't see, but other than that everything looks good. also, if you adding this to the standard glass you will need the repair kit which has adhesive and the rectangular block to set the sensor in, i think. if your replacing the oem glass with the rain sensor version, it has all that attached. ECS Tuning will likely have all the parts. Be sure to check with maloosheck for harnessing prices too here: http://vagpartsforsale.blogspot.com. Anyone confirmed that you can actually get the OEM rain sensor glass for the mkvi golf yet.

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      05-13-2011 08:53 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Tweak3D
      I am interested in this retrofit too, but I cannot get anyone to confirm the part number for the glass on a JSW
      according to the 2010 ETKA, the the MKVI Euro Variant has the same glass as the MKV JSW/Jetta. if true, you would definitely be able to get the OEM rain sensor glass since it was available in the US in the 05.5 and 06 model years. The rain sensor glass part number is: 1K5 845 011 BM

      the mkvi golf/gti have revised glass with sound damping which is not the same. Rain sensor glass part number here is: 5K0 845 011 K
      Last edited by davidch; 05-13-2011 at 09:17 PM.

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      05-13-2011 08:56 PM #25
      I would love to do this but seems like a hefty amount of work, etc.

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      05-13-2011 09:20 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by GTINC View Post
      Certainly a lot of opinions about the feature, but the system on my 2000 GTI-GLX is almost perfect and would be hard to be without for most situation. Can't imagine a down side to a system that runs the wipers only when needed, varies the interval to conditions and is always ready and waiting to serve you.
      agree... the rain sensor works great on the VWs i have owned ('03 mkiv jetta glx, '04 touareg, '06 jetta 2.0T that i installed). even if you decided you didn't like you could turn them back off in the VCDS. you could still use the sensor for the auto lights and auto dim mirror.

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      05-13-2011 09:25 PM #27
      I miss these features from my MKIV. If I wasn't getting an R I would probably attempt a retro.

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      05-14-2011 02:33 AM #28
      I just ordered the rain and light sensor. Its only $9.95 over at ecstuning. I picked up two.

      Now to order the wiring harness. I'll install that and make sure everything works. As long as it does, I'll order the new mirror, windshield, and headlight switch.

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      05-14-2011 09:36 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by toasters View Post
      I just ordered the rain and light sensor. Its only $9.95 over at ecstuning. I picked up two.

      Now to order the wiring harness. I'll install that and make sure everything works. As long as it does, I'll order the new mirror, windshield, and headlight switch.
      it says "for the golf mkv"... will that rain sensor work with ours?

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      05-14-2011 11:29 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by toasters View Post
      Actually I'm showing completely different part numbers...the parts you have appear to be for the Golf Plus (like the VW Fox).

      Here's what I show:


      And for the mirror:
      My apologies, its odd, if I select golf its defaulting to golf plus I just tried again and it is doing now that you've pointed it out. Great deal on those sensor since they are on clearance. Its worth the $10 to see if they work. I've grabbed one myself!

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      05-14-2011 11:38 AM #31
      hmmm, differences between the sensors on ECS and in the ETKA

      http://www.golfmk5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2890290

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      05-14-2011 01:25 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by GTINC View Post
      Certainly a lot of opinions about the feature, but the system on my 2000 GTI-GLX is almost perfect and would be hard to be without for most situation. Can't imagine a down side to a system that runs the wipers only when needed, varies the interval to conditions and is always ready and waiting to serve you.
      The ones I had seemed like they never knew what they were doing, they'd either be going full speed for a light drizzle, or be on the slowest setting during a monsoon. It must have just been that system, because my dad, and a few of my friends that drove it in the rain all thought they were annoying. It was actually one of the reasons I was looking at getting a new car.

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      05-14-2011 03:12 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Tweak3D View Post
      hmmm, differences between the sensors on ECS and in the ETKA

      http://www.golfmk5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2890290
      Quote Originally Posted by Smrtypants44 View Post
      it says "for the golf mkv"... will that rain sensor work with ours?
      The sensors are indeed different, but not in function.

      The sensor for the MkV is 1K0-955-559-M.

      According to ETKA:
      1K0-955-559-M is replaced by 1K0-955-559-R.
      1K0-955-559-R is replaced by 1K0-955-559-T.
      1K0-955-559-T is replaced by 1K0-955-559-AB.
      1K0-955-559-AB is replaced by 1K0-955-559-AF.
      1K0-955-559-AF is replaced by 1K0-955-559-AH.

      1K0-955-559-AH is the correct sensor for the Golf MKVI.

      It appears that the sensor is simply a different revision. What changed? I'm not sure. Obviously the manufacturer is different.

      But since the mkV uses the same sensor as the mkVI, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the old revision mkV part should work on the mkVI.

      I guess I'll be the guinea pig and find out.

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      05-14-2011 06:22 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by toasters View Post
      The sensors are indeed different, but not in function.

      The sensor for the MkV is 1K0-955-559-M.

      According to ETKA:
      1K0-955-559-M is replaced by 1K0-955-559-R.
      1K0-955-559-R is replaced by 1K0-955-559-T.
      1K0-955-559-T is replaced by 1K0-955-559-AB.
      1K0-955-559-AB is replaced by 1K0-955-559-AF.
      1K0-955-559-AF is replaced by 1K0-955-559-AH.

      1K0-955-559-AH is the correct sensor for the Golf MKVI.

      It appears that the sensor is simply a different revision. What changed? I'm not sure. Obviously the manufacturer is different.

      But since the mkV uses the same sensor as the mkVI, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the old revision mkV part should work on the mkVI.

      I guess I'll be the guinea pig and find out.
      interesting... they have the "M" and "R" models for $9.95. the AH one at ECS is $197 (it is available for $150 though at 1stvw... may want to check there also going forward for the other parts). it seems that i paid about $150 several years ago and probably bought the M or R... lol. imho, these revisions are likely just internal improvements of the sensor. you would think that they would work with the newer model but you never know for sure. certainly worth i try at that price.

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      05-15-2011 10:48 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by toasters View Post
      The sensors are indeed different, but not in function.

      The sensor for the MkV is 1K0-955-559-M.

      According to ETKA:
      1K0-955-559-M is replaced by 1K0-955-559-R.
      1K0-955-559-R is replaced by 1K0-955-559-T.
      1K0-955-559-T is replaced by 1K0-955-559-AB.
      1K0-955-559-AB is replaced by 1K0-955-559-AF.
      1K0-955-559-AF is replaced by 1K0-955-559-AH.

      1K0-955-559-AH is the correct sensor for the Golf MKVI.

      It appears that the sensor is simply a different revision. What changed? I'm not sure. Obviously the manufacturer is different.

      But since the mkV uses the same sensor as the mkVI, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the old revision mkV part should work on the mkVI.

      I guess I'll be the guinea pig and find out.
      I bought it too...figured why the hell not for that price...let us know if it works


      also the repair kit is $18/off at 1stvw... so ideally just for function you just need the repair kit, sensor, harness and euro switch correct?
      Last edited by Smrtypants44; 05-15-2011 at 10:54 PM.

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