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      05-05-2011 01:23 PM #1
      Here's a couple shots of my 2k11 Grassroots challenge project.

      I got this car as a project that was never completed by a buddy of mine. It had a stock counterflow with a worked head, halfworking MS setup, and alot of other things lacking reliability/finalization in regards to the powertrain. He did however take care of braking, bushings, and all that jazz. I rattle canned it white....it was tan and grey and rust and varying degrees of peeling on the tan.

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      -obd1 aba motor on obd2 motronic with mild port work, 268 cam, and a fairsized wet shot of nitrous(zex smartbox)
      -4k trans with phantom grip shim kit
      -Maserati biturbo 14x6's wrapped in 195/45 t1-r's(soon to be polished)
      -Beat beat beat h&r coilovers
      -deleted sunroof and spare tire well, and most other things







      The challenge is in october, and there's no wiring in the car, so i've got a little work and testing to do until race day.

      LMK what you guys think.
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      05-05-2011 02:02 PM #2
      Good things.

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      Maserati + Scirocco = Noice

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      05-05-2011 03:57 PM #4
      My dad was pretty important in pre-ferrari maserati days. He travelled all over the country fixing them for the factory. He spent a significant amount of time in Italy both then, and then again for the Mangusta reincarnation.

      That means we have a biturbo and quattroporte boneyard behind our shop. Free wheels

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      05-05-2011 04:31 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post
      My dad was pretty important in pre-ferrari maserati days. He travelled all over the country fixing them for the factory. He spent a significant amount of time in Italy both then, and then again for the Mangusta reincarnation.

      That means we have a biturbo and quattroporte boneyard behind our shop. Free wheels
      You had me at FREE WHEELS
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      05-05-2011 05:08 PM #6
      I spy a 928 in the background... whats the scoop on that one..?

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      05-05-2011 06:25 PM #7
      The owner rents a parking spot from us. It's been sitting for awhiiiile.

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      05-05-2011 10:49 PM #8
      I dig the early Mk2s. Nice and clean. Car looks well kept. Don't f*ck it up!

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      05-05-2011 11:11 PM #9
      I started laying all the obd2 motronic wiring out tonight. Dash out, heaterbox out. I'm going to wire the car all mk3 eventually, but for now i'm just rocking 2 fuseboxes. I grabbed a parts car like 6 months ago, and pulled every single wire to make this crazy simple. My girl is working nights for the next 6 nights straight, so i hope to get this thing running like, this weekend.

      My gti is fun, but it's at the point where it's absolutely no fun(not safe, haha) to turn in. I'm way pumped about this car.

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      05-06-2011 12:42 AM #10


      been wanting to do a $20xx challenge car for years. if only the car i got for free wasnt my daily...

      thos wheels are amazing on that car.




      good luck and i look forward to seeing it in GRM!
      ...but then again, i do drive a festiva

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      05-06-2011 03:57 AM #11
      In for progress on this as well.
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      I can't wait to see the progress on this one.
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      05-08-2011 08:42 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post
      My dad was pretty important in pre-ferrari maserati days. He travelled all over the country fixing them for the factory. He spent a significant amount of time in Italy both then, and then again for the Mangusta reincarnation.

      That means we have a biturbo and quattroporte boneyard behind our shop. Free wheels
      The Bi-Turbo had cool engine.
      I dig the rims.
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      05-08-2011 11:32 PM #14
      Got rolling a bit. Lots of work this weekend just organizing things....figuring what i have, and what i need. Lots going on....2 fuseboxes in there. Everything's cleaned up, sanded the floors, and painted, cleaned the carpets up, started mocking up fuel lines/flipped aba rail and brackets, lowered the back of the f-ing thing. I started thinning the motronic harness of all the obvious stuff. I'll finish once the thing's running. The head needs to come off anyway, so it's getting decked a little further by a machinist buddy. See if we can't get a healthy 11.5:1.

      HO!





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      05-08-2011 11:42 PM #15
      Looks like you have much to go! lol.
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      05-09-2011 12:14 AM #16
      It's all easy peasy stuff though. Stuff i've done a bunch. It'll go fast.

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      05-11-2011 01:39 PM #17
      I pulled the head off the car last night, busted it down, and polished most of the valves back to shiny.

      My old mk3 that this came from was idling in front of my shop a year or so ago....and it popped a heatercore. All the coolant ended up on my carpet, and the motor overheated and shut off. But then it ran fine afterward....last straw, parted the car.



      I can do my own porting, so i'm going to open this thing up considerably. I want a big cam eventually. From the parts mk3 that i got for this project, i gave a machinist buddy some crappy american racing aluminum wheels. In return, he's decking this head for me. Looking for 11.5:1 compression.

      Additionally, i've got a used pacesetter 4-1 header, big gap order(gaskets, clutch bolts, timing belt, etc), and a passenger side window regulator on the way. I'm looking into exhausts, and TT makes a 2.5" kit with a magnaflow for $270. I might just say **** it and order a brand new, reasonable exhaust afterall.

      I'm also getting to the point where i might have to have a "grassroots setup" for the motor. I want to buy some other performance parts, cam, etc to try to hit 150whp, but i'm not sure that i can get it under the budget. Worst case, i'll keep the 268 cam around, and throw it in just to keep things honest. Maybe i can afford it, light figuring puts me around $1100 at this point. Time to start scrounging/getting free and cheap crap to get the thing drivable the rest of the way.

      So, if anybody knows where i might find a used hydro 288 cam, i could def live with a little less midrange!
      Last edited by root beer; 05-11-2011 at 02:15 PM.

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      05-20-2011 12:51 PM #18
      I haven't been sleeping on this! Just on pictures.

      What i've been up to:
      -Motor/trans out, clutch/fw on, everything back in
      -head's still with machinist buddy for decking. Taking 50thou off.
      -arp studs are in, and the block's cleaned up
      -aligned it....so much easier to push now, haha
      -new clutch cable all adjusted up
      -made most of my filler plates to patch up the hvac holes
      -tons of body related bits here and there
      -Lower x brace on
      -shift linkage is done, 90mm axles are in(trans build, shim kit, and 100mm upgrade happening soon, but later)
      -found my gas door, painted and installed
      -Painted and put on my vr waterpump pulley
      -dumping the pacesetter header, which doesn't look like it's going to fit, in favor of a used 1.75" TT tall block header and 2.25" exhaust. I wanted 2.5", but i got a sweet deal on the 2.25 kit. GOTSTA HAVE DA FLOWS

      The finer details take me what feels like forever. I'm used to 6 cylinder mk3's, not 4cyl mk1's!

      Getting there! I'm almost done teaching for the summer, and I'm so pumped to have this thing for a fun summer daily. I don't want to work on this thing at all this summer. That's reserved for making the gti in my sig go faster. Should be cracking high 11's all motor in that this summer, street driven.
      Last edited by root beer; 05-20-2011 at 01:26 PM.

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      05-20-2011 02:30 PM #19
      rooting for you

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      05-28-2011 02:10 AM #20
      I had to take a week off this thing. I'd been working on it despite being busy with school. This is my first year teaching chorus/global music, and we had a spring trip and concert in 2 weeks. All done now, ready to get crackin for real.

      Got my cylinder head back from decking. Ended up taking 50thou off for what i thought would be 11:1 compression......until i decided to lighten the front of the car of all the extra aluminum.

      Work in progress, i'll post pics comparing to a stock obd2 head when i'm done. First 8v head i've done. Most of my previous experience has been with vr6 motors.

      I'm hoping to get this head reassembled, and installed this weekend. Too many things being held up by this not being on.

      Header/exhaust should be here next week. Included is a pic of a short runner that i'm picking up for street/track use. I don't think the sri will be fitting in the challenge budget. Challenge trim will probably end up being with a ported stock intake/268. Street/track trim will probably be sri/288.





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      05-28-2011 02:38 AM #21
      Did you get that SRI from tigninja?

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      05-28-2011 02:41 AM #22
      trying to

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      05-28-2011 05:21 AM #23
      timmy i'm pretty sure that i have a 288 hydro cam laying around down here for an 8v...with a TT cam gear attached to it. Its yours if you want it!

      PS did you give away the mk3's american racing wheels!
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      05-28-2011 10:14 AM #24
      Dig that crap up and lmk. I'll come get that asap.

      The parts car's AR mags, not the white ones. Only thinned out the AR collection by 1 set, haha.

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      05-28-2011 02:16 PM #25
      I really can't tell you how excited I am that you're working on an 8v.
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      05-28-2011 06:54 PM #26
      Me too. I've seriously wanted a simple ass aba swapped mk1 for like 5 years.

    27. 05-28-2011 07:36 PM #27
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      05-28-2011 09:21 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post
      Me too. I've seriously wanted a simple ass aba swapped mk1 for like 5 years.
      Buy my rabbit. Big turbo aba swap.. its fun!

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      05-28-2011 10:22 PM #29
      If i go any further with mk1's, i'm going to want a jetta. Plus, I get too much enjoyment out of turning bolts for no reason.

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      05-29-2011 01:46 AM #30
      TIGninja made this, and is shipping next week. Pumped.















      I finished all the porting I'm getting into for now. I ran out of sanding rolls, but i think this is a good stopping point for now. ABA stock valves are really terrible. I'll do something with them someday, but for this weekend, they're getting lapped back in. There's a couple pics at the top of a stock obd2 head just for some kind of comparison.










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      05-29-2011 01:52 AM #31
      If I send you my "new" head, will you make it this pretty for a nominal fee?

      But,
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      05-29-2011 02:05 AM #32
      I'd love to if i had the time man. I've got too many projects on my plate for too damn long!

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      05-29-2011 02:12 AM #33
      Dirt Cheap racing + Scirocco= Win in my book

      It's my two favorite automotive things together.

      Definitely keeping an eye on this because I plan on using OBD wiring for my future engine plans.

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      05-29-2011 02:14 AM #34
      Ohhhh... ok..

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      05-29-2011 02:21 AM #35
      Got a compressor? Get a straight grinder, and a porting kit with all the sanding rolls from eastwood. People like to make porting this mysterious, magical process. I've had good luck just going at it and using my best judgement. It's just doing a little reading, doing a little visualizing, take your time, and don't go crazy on the first one you do. It's even cooler on 8v's because these heads go for scrap pricing.

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