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    Thread: Root Beer's Street/Strip S2 N/A++ 8v

    1. Member AJmustDIE's Avatar
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      05-29-2011 02:28 AM #36
      lol, I was wanting a reaction from that pic..
      But yeah, I'd do it myself, and I would go slow my first time.

      The thing is.. I've never taken a head apart before..
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      05-29-2011 02:34 AM #37
      Haha, the pic was good. Sorry, house sitting at my parents house, all ****ed up watching The Killing with my 12 year old labrador.

      There are some different ways to bust a head down. I use a press, combinations of sockets, then a deep ~19mm socket with a slot cut in it. Secure the head, secure the bottom of the valve, press the retainer down off the keepers, knock them to the side off the valve, and let the press off.

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      06-05-2011 06:37 PM #39
      Alright. I've been rolling on this a bit. I finished cleaning the valves, polished lifter bores, and cam journals. and assembled the head, torqued with ARP's. Spent alot of time on a ported stock lower manifold. We'll see how dumb i am when i get it on the rollers stock manifold/268 for a baseline. The shape of my ports is just kinda silly now...had to trim up my gasket to match, haha.

      Coolant hoses are getting mocked up, wiring's getting plugged in. Still waiting on my header and exhaust.

      I ditched my big stock dumb heavy fan shroud and fan. Picked up a brand new oem 08 civic plastic shroud and fan for $10.01 shipped from ebay. Score....should fit nice, cool more efficiently, and drop some much needed weight from the front of this car. The back is toooootally stripped, the front will always have a motor in it, so yea...


      Underdrive crank pulley-$40


      Beefy ass x brace


      The back of the car right now


      Also, spent ALOT of time organizing my parts shed. My god. I've got way too much **** right now. Just one shelf...anybody need a vr head?


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    5. 06-05-2011 10:03 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post
      Got a compressor? Get a straight grinder, and a porting kit with all the sanding rolls from eastwood. People like to make porting this mysterious, magical process. I've had good luck just going at it and using my best judgement. It's just doing a little reading, doing a little visualizing, take your time, and don't go crazy on the first one you do. It's even cooler on 8v's because these heads go for scrap pricing.
      And pick yourself up a few of these. At least get a round ball, oval, and a straight with round top in the long shank version. Finish with cartridge rolls or flap wheels in various grits. (i prefer the flaps) You'll thank me when you find all your grinding wheels are caked with aluminum


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      06-05-2011 10:43 PM #41
      or you could just get the eastwood grinders grease when you get your porting kit. it keeps the rollers from getting clogged up and helps them last longer. plus on the finer stuff it makes for a smoother finish (not that you really want all that smooth in the ports, but for polishing its pretty awesome)

      the burs tend to be a bit aggressive, especially for people who are just starting. the sanding scrolls are more time consuming but are far less prone to accidentally removing too much material.
      ...but then again, i do drive a festiva

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      06-06-2011 07:29 AM #42
      Yea, i've got carbide bits, and i use them for cast iron, but for aluminum i prefer starting with just cheap packs of grinding stones, then moving to sanding rolls/cones.

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      06-06-2011 10:21 AM #43
      Sweet thread. I love reading your posts about VR stuff, glad to see you over here.

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      06-06-2011 02:58 PM #44
      I love the look of this car!!! I will be doing something similar with an 84 I got on trade. Keep the photo's coming!!

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      06-06-2011 10:44 PM #45


      whattttttttttttttttt
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      06-07-2011 08:39 AM #46
      Mass hysteria!

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      06-07-2011 10:53 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post
      My dad was pretty important in pre-ferrari maserati days. He travelled all over the country fixing them for the factory. He spent a significant amount of time in Italy both then, and then again for the Mangusta reincarnation.

      That means we have a biturbo and quattroporte boneyard behind our shop. Free wheels
      I have a friend (who owns the local german car specialist shop here in town) who used to work for a dealer in Reno that sold Maseratis in the mid 70's and 80's doing this same exact thing. Apparently when they would come to the dealership a lot of the electrical and rubber would be rotted out on them from sitting at the factory. From what he said Maserati would do their production runs way in advance and the cars would end up sitting for extended periods of time without any sort of attention.

      Don't care, still want a Maserati biturbo at some point.
      A sloth gets robbed by three turtles. The sloth calls the cops and they ask him "so can you tell us about the robbery?" and the sloth say's "I'm not sure.............It all happened so fast......."

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      06-07-2011 11:00 AM #48
      Nice.

      My dad also did some cool stuff with the Firestone Firehawk series. He built all the race motors. He modded wastegate vac lines with a T and carburetor jets(interchangable inside the car) to make more boost.(pre boost controllers) Added an extra pickup in their gas tanks. This was a 'factory stock' style class.

      Anytime anybody's in Maryland, shoot me a pm and we'll do down in my parents basement and nerd out on 80's pictures.

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      06-07-2011 07:51 PM #50
      Love this thread, I'm doing a 24 Hours of Lemons Scirocco this year should be a fun build!

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      06-08-2011 02:41 AM #51
      Crappy night on a customer car. Still had time to blow off some steam and cut **** up!

      I keep telling myself that this crap's going to add up.


      And i've got to rant about people putting batteries in the back of the car for performance. 0 gauge wire through the whole GD length of the car, a battery box, rear cutoff switch, and all the little fixings are what, 10-12lbs? So, you're adding overall weight just to move existing weight around. Dumb. So, despite how much i want to get weight off the front, my battery will live in the front. If you get the car as light as possible, you can always add ballast exZactly where you want it. (hanging under the rear of the car in my case?)

      I'm sorry, i had to get that off my chest. I feel better.
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      06-08-2011 03:16 AM #52
      My wire only weighed a couple pounds, my battery box is not even one pound.
      But then again..

      Moving the battery wasn't a performance decision.. it was a space one. lol.
      Now that I think about it.. all my Air/Water equipment.. has to be adding up. lol.
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      06-08-2011 03:25 AM #53
      It does look prettier without it sitting in there. Or if you've got an icebox chillin in your bay. I'm with that.

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      06-08-2011 03:29 AM #54
      My icebox is in the trunk yo, duh.
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      06-08-2011 08:06 AM #55
      From your statements, it is obvious you don't care about winning or even a podium position. When I enter a race it is my solemn believe that I am going to win, not just beat a Mullet Mobile (mustang).

      Racers (not drag monkeys) relocate a battery to help with weight distribution, because better weight distribution is PARAMOUNT in a FWD. You say that moving 12 lbs to the trunk isn't worth it. Don't forget that at 1G, weight is doubled. So, your 12lbs battery is now 24lbs and a perfect ballast in the rear.

      I just can't believe you are going to put all that work into a car, register it and drive it down to Gainesville from MD just to try to beat Mustangs. The Scirocco has won national championships in autocross, so why would you just ACCEPT that the CRX is going to win again and not build for the autox.

      I wish you luck but you shouldn't call us RACERS dumb for a mod that has proven to be a good use and help with weight distribution.

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      06-08-2011 08:07 AM #56
      Whoa, i didn't mean so much hate man. I don't think you're dumb. It's not just moving but ADDING is what i'm concerned about. (there's a drag portion too, and i want it in the front there) And i told you i was planning on some ballast.

      But to call me a non racer because i drag race is silly. You must know that we compete and race just like every other area.

      In our pm convo, i was just taking a car for reference. Mustangs have had a good showing in previous challenges. I appreciate your thoughts, and i'm planning to use most of them.

      Sorry if i gave you the wrong vibe.
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      06-08-2011 09:18 AM #57
      And for the record, there were 2 mustangs in the top 52 there last year(12 and 13 finishers)

      There were no, NO crx's.

      http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/challenge/results/
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      06-08-2011 09:21 AM #58
      I really shouldn't post until I have had my coffee. Sorry if I came off a touch harsh.

      With that said, I believe this car could win, PERIOD. Its not a given that the CRX will win again. A good driver can make up a great deal of time, even in a 35 second autox. I would hate for you to go though all this work and get beat by a little bit in the autox because of some small but important details.

      Once again, sorry but racing is my passion...

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      sorry was looking at 09 results.... but that is a great benchmark...

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      06-08-2011 04:01 PM #61
      Just about any other forum and the last four or so posts would have sent this thread to places that no rocco lover wants to see it go. to both of you for keeping it civil. The scirocco forum rules!!! More pic.s please!!

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      06-08-2011 04:03 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by rocco858488 View Post
      Just about any other forum and the last four or so posts would have sent this thread to places that no rocco lover wants to see it go. to both of you for keeping it civil. The scirocco forum rules!!! More pic.s please!!
      Agreed if this was the mk3 forums the past few comments would have turned into a barrage of name calling and non sense and yet another great thread would have gotten
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      06-08-2011 07:26 PM #63
      My biggest thing right now is tires.

      I need-
      20x8x14 MT slicks....which aren't the easiest to find used anymore. I'll probably end up making a more common 22x8x13, but then i've got to find 2 rims.

      -Some kind of used auto-x slicks. Hopefully 14" for the biturbo wheels. The T1-rs could do ok, but of course, they're a street tire, and they're kind of a big part of my budgeting right now. I got these because i hope to be tagging this thing, and driving it this summer.


      Grand total on the car right now without the Short runner is about $1350, $1130 without the toyo's...

      So, $600-800 to find 6 tires, and try to fit the intake manifold(and maybe a real cam?) in the budget. Tough bill. I'll be asking all around.

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      needs a running engine in the back
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      Skinnies on the back son!

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      06-10-2011 11:38 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Das Borgen View Post
      needs a running engine in the back
      Man, they will let anyone in here.

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      06-10-2011 12:05 PM #68
      Thanks for the lead

      I messaged him.

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      06-10-2011 02:24 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by 85roccoZ400 View Post
      Root Beer - I made this mistake with the road race slicks... you need to have DOT tires for the autocross part of the competition, you can have non-DOT slicks for drags, but the wheel/tire combo linked here won't do much for your need for tires.

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      06-10-2011 02:28 PM #70
      You know, that thought crossed my mind. I thought i'd seen something of that nature. I've always been halfway considering just keeping the daily t1-r's on for the auto-x, so i guess i never really read into that area of the rules.

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