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    Thread: Fiat 500 plastic plugs on undercarrage and undercoating Pls help!

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      05-09-2011 10:37 PM #1
      Is it normal for cars to be sold brand new without plugs on the under body and aluminum duct tape in its place instead?

      Is its common to have certain areas of the under body with undercoat missing?
      Why would a manufacturer do this ?

      vehicle in question is a 2012 fiat 500 prima













      Last edited by giulianot; 05-09-2011 at 10:44 PM.

    2. 05-09-2011 10:39 PM #2
      something definitely seems off, but i have no idea what kinda stuff is normal for the fiats.

      i guess duct tape is ok to cover the wholes, but id prefer a siliconed in plug...

      and for some of the areas, it almost looks like there used to be some component installed there that was later removed

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      05-09-2011 10:51 PM #3
      is the undercoating peeling off?

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      05-09-2011 10:51 PM #4
      Guess you didn't have a chance to talk to the dealer yet? Did you throw it up on the 500 boards yet?

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      05-09-2011 10:53 PM #5
      That looks terrible

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      05-09-2011 10:57 PM #7
      dealer claimed it was normal, I have not posted it anywhere else yet i wanted to check here first. The roof has white over spray under the clear and the dealer said it was just dust




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      05-09-2011 11:02 PM #8
      Italian car made in Mexico. Presumptions confirmed.

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      05-09-2011 11:05 PM #9
      I've seen a number of cars with undercoating missing in the area surrounding the grommets, which were presumably installed after application of the undercoating to ensure a complete seal with the metal. The aluminum tape, though, I've never seen.

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      05-09-2011 11:09 PM #11
      This may be a stupid question, but why make holes under the car just to put plastic/rubber plugs in?
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      05-09-2011 11:09 PM #12
      Italian economy car built in Mexico.


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      05-09-2011 11:11 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by 8v deathsquad View Post
      This may be a stupid question, but why make holes under the car just to put plastic plugs in?
      Usually has to do with manufacturing processes. A hole or something for the robots to grab on to, mounting points for the assembly line machines, that kind of stuff.
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      05-09-2011 11:13 PM #15
      some hole are for mounting the optional spare tire

    16. 05-09-2011 11:18 PM #16
      Can you find what is covered by the pre-delivery inspection? I am not sure about the 500 specifically, but it is not uncommon for other cars to have body plugs installed by the dealer as part of the PDI.

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      05-09-2011 11:20 PM #17
      My buddy also has a Prima. I just saw these holes on Thursday night. The holes are for mounting a spare as previously mentioned. The Prima came without it as I am sure you're aware. For now I wpuld leave the tape and buy the spare once available. If you don't intend to do this then but a can or rubberized undercoat at a local parts store.

      Just spray everywhere you see uncovered metal.


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      05-09-2011 11:57 PM #18
      So if I am reading this correctly, You have done the following:

      Bought a first run car, built in Mexico, by Fiat, for

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      05-10-2011 12:18 AM #19
      [QUOTE=gambit420s;71491547]So if I am reading this correctly, You have done the following:

      Bought a first run car, built in Mexico, by Fiat, for

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      05-10-2011 12:38 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Boogety Boogety View Post
      and why they haven't dared show their face around here for thirty-plus years...

      27 years ago is now thirty-plus years? Must be that new math.
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      05-10-2011 02:17 AM #21
      I sprung the $599 for the lifetime rust warranty so frankly I don't care.

      I'm going to rock this car til it's in its grave. Top gear recommended it, so I bought it. That and they offered me 19,500 at Fiat for my Hyundai when nowhere else would go anywhere near that price. Can't be any worse than my 2 transmission (ready for third) Genesis Coupe.
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    22. 05-10-2011 02:30 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by stacman View Post

      I'm going to rock this car til it's in its grave.
      2017 only sounds like the very distant future.
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      05-10-2011 02:44 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by giulianot View Post
      Is it normal for cars to be sold brand new without plugs on the under body and aluminum duct tape in its place instead?

      Is its common to have certain areas of the under body with undercoat missing?
      Why would a manufacturer do this ?
      Yes, the duct tape is normal. It's used to cover holes so that coatings can be applied over them. It's not standard duct tape, but a rather heavy duty version designed for sticking to cars for a long time.

      The "missing" undercoating is typically where the carrier was in contact with the car as it was moving down the line. That area never was sprayed. This can be found on almost any car, the size of the area varies with the carrier design.

      The roof is overspray, no two ways about that one.
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      05-10-2011 02:45 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Jrod511 View Post
      2017 only sounds like the very distant future.
      Yes, but my Genesis Coupe had maybe 2 more years in it. 3 tops. At least the Fiat will get motorcycle mileage in the meantime, and as a Prima Edizione may keep some resale value even when it's falling apart.

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    25. 05-10-2011 02:46 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by giulianot View Post
      Is it normal for cars to be sold brand new without plugs on the under body and aluminum duct tape in its place instead?

      Is its common to have certain areas of the under body with undercoat missing?
      Why would a manufacturer do this ?
      It is common for under carriage areas of some cars to have no undercoating. I don't think the car in the photos some how had it "missed"; that's just how it is done. $10 worth of spray undercoating and you'd likely do better than the factory would have anyways. But it would cost them far more than $10 to undercoat the car (need a spray robot, but the stuff in bulk, longer on assembly line, more line maintenance, need to inventory and sell the crap, etc....)

      I have seen aluminized tape on cars before in various areas. I don't know what the intention here was exactly though. I have seen cars without plastic caps on holes and the holes just be bare. Besides manufacturing / locating points some of the holes are used to inject a waxy substance that acts as a rust repellent (Ever see a MkIV Jetta with brown ooze running out of the doors and staining the rocker panels? That's the rust repellent wax). Usually you see plugs in those holes as they lead to cavities that could trap water and dirt.

      Why would a manufacturer do this? Well, basically, no matter what angle you attack it from, it is essentially the way the MFG figured out to do a process in the cheapest possible manner.

      I am NOT familiar with modern Fiats and MOST CL'ers aren't either. That being said, I feel that in 6 years they will hold up as well as whatever the cheapest crap was 6 years ago from now; I guess an Aveo or a bottom of the bucket Suzuki?

      With a 5 year rust warranty, an aftermarket rust warranty is a waste of money.
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