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Thread: VW DriverGear Sport Springs on a CC -- YES they lower it!

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    05-12-2011 09:48 AM #1
    I guess I'm the guinea pig AGAIN.

    I bought a set of the VW DriverGear springs for a B6 Passat.

    Eibach makes them for VW, but they are NOT the "Pro-Kit" springs.
    These springs are linear (like OEM).

    Part numbers:
    MANUAL = 3C0071678 ($208.05)
    AUTO = 3C0071679 ($219)

    Bought from www.keffervwparts.com -- a Vortex sponsor

    Parts needed and/or removed during install (I replaced them all)
    Rear:
    1. Lower Control Arm Bolts, N-106-107-02, 2 needed
    2. Lower Control Arm Nuts, N-101-064-02, 2 needed

    Front:
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    2. Stabilizer bar connecting link nut, N-015-081-6, 2 needed
    3. Front lower control arm nuts, N-103-320-02, 6 needed
    4. Strut lower bolt, N-909-548-02, 2 needed
    5. Strut lower nut, N-101-064-02, 2 needed (same nut as used on rear shock lower nut)
    6. Strut upper bolts, N-101-277-07, 6 needed
    7. Strut assembly rod nut, N-910-216-01, 2 needed
    8. Strut Bearings, 6N0412249C, 2 needed

    Install with pics: (same for CC)
    http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=273002

    Anyways....they're supposed to only be for the B6 Passat, but they fit the CC as well since they have the same exact suspension (I ran them on my MK5 & MK6 as well).

    They don't "slam" the car, but it does get rid of most of the ugly wheel gap.
    Nice slightly firmer ride, but waaaay better handling than the stock springs and you still use the stock dampers...all while keeping your suspension parts under warranty

    Went from a 4+ finger gap in the front to a 2 finger gap.
    Back went from a 3 finger gap to a 2 finger gap as well.

    Fender to ground:
    Front = 26 1/4"
    Rear = 26 1/4"


    Front:


    Rear:


    Comparison vs stock:














    DG Springs & OEM 18's:



    Springs & nuts/bolts & strut bearings:


    Close up of springs:


    Stock front springs compared to DG springs:


    Stock rear springs compared to DG springs:


    Stock on 17's:


    DG springs & OEM 18's:


    Stock on 17's:


    DG springs & OEM 18's:



    Stock on 17's:


    Stock on OEM 18's:


    DG springs & OEM 18's:


    Stock on 17's:


    Stock on OEM 18's:


    DG springs & OEM 18's:
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    05-12-2011 09:52 AM #2
    Looks good Dan. Honestly wish it had just a tad more bit of a drop from these springs, but hey to keep warranty and stuff this may be a great alternative. Also just out of curiosity though does vw actually say that it shouldn't' void warranty despite it being a b6 part?
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    05-12-2011 09:56 AM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by dj_cronic_metal View Post
    Looks good Dan. Honestly wish it had just a tad more bit of a drop from these springs, but hey to keep warranty and stuff this may be a great alternative. Also just out of curiosity though does vw actually say that it shouldn't' void warranty despite it being a b6 part?
    Dude...for only $208 & working PERFECT with the OEM dampers & keeping the stock ride quality....they're a great option to get rid of some of the gap

    Got rid of the reverse rake it had too!

    As for warranty...I'd just tell my dealer that my selling dealer had put them on....I'd just play it off that they're a VW accessory part they threw on.
    I mean how often do you really have warranty issues with springs...you know?

    Regardless, I think you'd have less problems with these than having coilovers or aftermarket springs. . .

    VW rep. voided my (suspension) warranty on my MK6 GTI because I had Eibach Pro-Kit springs on it...just food for thought & something to think about.
    He also voided my (engine/powertrain) warranty because of my APR tune as well
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    05-12-2011 10:07 AM #4
    Nice write up. Thank you for the info. I like the new height!
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    05-12-2011 10:08 AM #5
    Now this is a proper thread. I wish they were a tad lower too but I think these are definitely on my list. Thanks, Dan.

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    05-12-2011 10:12 AM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by zedcorrado View Post
    Now this is a proper thread. I wish they were a tad lower too but I think these are definitely on my list. Thanks, Dan.
    Yeah it's a subtle drop (~1.25") in the front, but it looks sooo much better in person

    The shadows in the pics aren't doing it any favors either

    Most of those pics were right after the install as well and it's settled a little since then, just FYI

    Like I said, they keep the ride quality and no need to upgrade the dampers.

    $200 for springs < $200 for springs + $500 dampers
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    05-12-2011 10:24 AM #7
    There was a time a couple of months back that ECS had these springs for like 60 bucks or something they were doing a huge discount on them.

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    05-12-2011 10:27 AM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Daze513 View Post
    There was a time a couple of months back that ECS had these springs for like 60 bucks or something they were doing a huge discount on them.
    I believe you are right about this. I think I recall asking them if they would work on the CC and they couldn't confirm it.
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    05-12-2011 10:36 AM #9
    I'd love to see these on a stock R-Line.

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    05-12-2011 11:12 AM #10
    Cars looks much better...

    May have to wait till my warranty runs out before doing this (one more year)
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    05-12-2011 11:20 AM #11
    great write up, really appreciate the effort! i think the DG springs look great if you don't want it slammed.

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    05-12-2011 12:12 PM #12
    Great write up snobber dan. Since I wouldn't do the labor myself, any idea what the total cost of your project was/is? Labor cost? Btw, love your car, color/wheels combo
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    05-12-2011 01:06 PM #13
    AUTO = 3C0071679 ($219)

    i have a set of these for $200 shipped. if anyone is interested.

    ~200-500 miles on them. not low enough for me. i do miss the comfort tho.
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    05-12-2011 01:36 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Ween2010 View Post
    I believe you are right about this. I think I recall asking them if they would work on the CC and they couldn't confirm it.
    Same thing I did, and I actually ordered them first then I asked them and they couldn't give me a straight answer so I cancelled.

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    05-12-2011 02:05 PM #15
    Because I'm too lazy to do the math... How much did the bolts etc. all cost that you replaced?

    Also, you have definitely swayed my vote now to buy these springs when I do replace the OEM ones.

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    05-12-2011 03:13 PM #16
    Ok. Now I'm curious... Why different part numbers for manual/DSG?

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    05-12-2011 03:21 PM #17
    Am I missing something? I barely see any drop. Your car and wheels look awesome, just dont see the drop.
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    05-12-2011 03:35 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by JHolmes View Post
    Ok. Now I'm curious... Why different part numbers for manual/DSG?

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    Maybe weight difference?

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    05-12-2011 03:40 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Ween2010 View Post
    Am I missing something? I barely see any drop. Your car and wheels look awesome, just dont see the drop.
    I see it and to me its perfect. Im not a fan of "slammed" cars though...just not my thing. To me, the gap is nice. The best part though, is the car now sits level. I look at mine and wonder why VW (and other manufacturers) makes the car sit slightly higher in front....

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    hey snobr, can we get some close ups (cropped version) of the new and old. thanks
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    05-12-2011 06:00 PM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by JHolmes View Post
    Ok. Now I'm curious... Why different part numbers for manual/DSG?

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    dsg is lighter than the manual and there is a weight difference.
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    05-12-2011 06:05 PM #22
    I don't see a difference.

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    05-12-2011 06:11 PM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by CC U L8TR View Post
    I don't see a difference.
    Me either......if you look at the height of the springs, it appears the front one is very minimally shorter, but the rear is the exact same height. But if you're happy with them that's all that counts!

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    05-12-2011 07:03 PM #24
    can the front springs be ordered seperate, since the back seem to be the same, just painted blue?
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    05-12-2011 07:56 PM #25
    First and foremost I want to thank you for taking the time to show us the difference. Even though the drop isn't that radical, I'm sure it handles alot better. Some people actually may prefer this type of drop better for various reasons. For those you cant go wrong with this setup.



    For that reason I'm going to help anyone who sees the value in this mod:

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    05-12-2011 09:35 PM #26
    Great news! Exactly the drop I am looking for!

    If I do this would these be a good suggestion it seems like the kit you put together:

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    05-12-2011 10:44 PM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by snobrdrdan View Post
    Dropped my car 1.25" in the front & about 0.75" in the back.
    Fender to ground I'm 26 3/4" in the front & 27" in the rear with the DG springs

    I'm gonna start a thread with before & after pics....it'll shut everyone up
    Objective achieved...Thanks for the detailed thread and pics..This is exactly what I was
    looking for. Will be installing these soon.
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    where'd you go snobrdrdan? great post, just curious about labor? did you do it yourself? cost? Thanks
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    05-14-2011 04:51 AM #29
    Quote Originally Posted by JHolmes View Post
    Ok. Now I'm curious... Why different part numbers for manual/DSG?

    Paul?
    Like someone else said....weight difference (different spring rates too because of that)

    VW has always done that with all their DriverGear springs

    OEM/stock springs are the same....auto & manual will have different colored dots (color codes) on the springs

    With the DriverGears...the rear springs are exactly the same Manual & Auto. The front springs are different though
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    05-14-2011 04:56 AM #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Jhawkcclux View Post
    where'd you go snobrdrdan? great post, just curious about labor? did you do it yourself? cost? Thanks
    Sorry man.

    I did the install myself.
    Springs were $208, bearings were like $15, & then I replaced ALL the nuts/bolts.

    Total was $251.39 + $16 for SHIPPING = $267.39 SHIPPED from www.keffervwparts.com

    The suspension is the same as the MK5/MK6 platform and I've done that a bunch of times.

    You need a couple specialty tools (triple square bits & strut spreader bit), but other than that...it's pretty simple.
    I've seen some shops charge (or try to) A LOT to do the install. So shop around and make sure it's a shop that knows VW's.
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    05-14-2011 04:58 AM #31
    Quote Originally Posted by mjd0147 View Post
    Because I'm too lazy to do the math... How much did the bolts etc. all cost that you replaced?

    Also, you have definitely swayed my vote now to buy these springs when I do replace the OEM ones.
    Like I just posted....everything was bought from www.keffervwparts.com

    The bearings were $15
    And then ALL of the nuts/bolts that get touched during the install (minus axle bolts -- I don't remove them).....were $28
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    05-14-2011 05:01 AM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by phantom2010 View Post
    Me either......if you look at the height of the springs, it appears the front one is very minimally shorter, but the rear is the exact same height. But if you're happy with them that's all that counts!
    Quote Originally Posted by CC U L8TR View Post
    I don't see a difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ween2010 View Post
    Am I missing something? I barely see any drop. Your car and wheels look awesome, just dont see the drop.
    Coming from guys who are lowered or want the extreme lowered look, of course

    Hence why I posted back to back pictures (in the same location) showing that there IS a difference.

    Subtle...yes
    But it is definitely lower

    I'll get some shots next to a stock CC....maybe that'll help
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    05-14-2011 08:12 AM #33
    interesting... the other day at work I parked next to a B6 passat that looked kinda lower but nothing too low...
    this may be the way to go for me... I really dont want anything very low and also would like to maintain stock compliant suspension feel but sure would like it just a tad lower and firm/tight... - how's the ride?

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    05-16-2011 05:28 AM #34
    Quote Originally Posted by uptcv1 View Post
    interesting... the other day at work I parked next to a B6 passat that looked kinda lower but nothing too low...
    this may be the way to go for me... I really dont want anything very low and also would like to maintain stock compliant suspension feel but sure would like it just a tad lower and firm/tight... - how's the ride?
    Ride is awesome....just like stock

    I honestly didn't notice a difference in ride quality at all....seems the same (if not better), but the handling is definitely nicer & firmed up
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    05-16-2011 02:52 PM #35
    [QUOTE=snobrdrdan;71567064]Coming from guys who are lowered or want the extreme lowered look, of course

    I was thinking the same thing. Im with ya, I just want a subtle drop...and to have even wheel gaps front/rear.

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