VW DriverGear Sport Springs on a CC -- YES they lower it!

[Jhawkcclux]

Snobr, went to a local VW/Audi/Porsche guy today to ask about spring install costs. he wants $600 just for the install, and says it has to be alligned after the install. too rich for my blood at this point. I'll keep looking around for another shop. thanks for the post

[black11]

how much lower are the h&r springs?

[snobrdrdan]

Snobr, went to a local VW/Audi/Porsche guy today to ask about spring install costs. he wants $600 just for the install, and says it has to be alligned after the install. too rich for my blood at this point. I'll keep looking around for another shop. thanks for the post

Wow....that is outrageous!!!

If you were local, I'd help you in a heartbeat

[snobrdrdan]

how much lower are the h&r springs?

I'm gonna find out either today or tomorrow...just bought a set of H&R's to compare to actually

[MrRline]

I'm gonna find out either today or tomorrow...just bought a set of H&R's to compare to actually

Ill be waiting for this. Your attention to detail gives me a good feeling about your reviews.

[snobrdrdan]

Ill be waiting for this. Your attention to detail gives me a good feeling about your reviews.

Well after I helped my local dubber out with his H&R's....the drop was nice & the ride was very nice actually with the H&R's
I was completely shocked

So after that, I was up in the air between the Eibachs & the H&R's
The H&R's are supposedly stiffer and Eibachs are always softer. So with the stock dampers being softer, I would think you'd need a stiffer spring to compensate & to work together better.

Because if you have soft dampers with soft springs it's gonna be floaty & not match up well, IMO

Figured I'd give them a shot.
Worst case scenario...just go back to the DriverGears

[snobrdrdan]

Well the springs settled & went lower
Fender to ground all the way around is 26 1/4"

Updated the first thread with the measurement pics & also new (comparison) pics!!!!

[MrRline]

Looks good dan. Also with the H&R one you tested was it close to stock for comfort level or do you feel a lot of the road? How long do you think the stock dampers would last being lowered on the H&r's? Springs looked similar for some reason to your other ones.

[ptfern]

Well after I helped my local dubber out with his H&R's....the drop was nice & the ride was very nice actually with the H&R's
I was completely shocked

So after that, I was up in the air between the Eibachs & the H&R's
The H&R's are supposedly stiffer and Eibachs are always softer. So with the stock dampers being softer, I would think you'd need a stiffer spring to compensate & to work together better.

Because if you have soft dampers with soft springs it's gonna be floaty & not match up well, IMO

Figured I'd give them a shot.
Worst case scenario...just go back to the DriverGears

You might want to read this.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...7#post70432527

[JHolmes]

Let's see some side-by-side OEM, DG, H&R shots!

[snobrdrdan]

Looks good dan. Also with the H&R one you tested was it close to stock for comfort level or do you feel a lot of the road? How long do you think the stock dampers would last being lowered on the H&r's? Springs looked similar for some reason to your other ones.

Those are newer pics of the DriverGear springs still (before I took them off)....they settled to 26 1/4" all the way around (ground to fender)

I did put the H&R's on, but never posted up pics .....got another setup ordered now though

[snobrdrdan]

Let's see some side-by-side OEM, DG, H&R shots!

Will get pics before I take the H&R's off....stay tuned!

[snobrdrdan]

Let's see some side-by-side OEM, DG, H&R shots!

Stock:



DriverGear:


H&R's:

[MrRline]

Wow H&R's dont look like they dropped it at all. Somewhat disappointing.

[snobrdrdan]

They did from the stock height!

As for the difference between the Driver Gears & H&R's....the H&R's obviously drop the rear a lot more, but the fronts look similar

[Adam@CheckeredFlagVW]

car looks good Dan

let me know when you're ready to get the gold coast body kit

[kaysid]

Those are newer pics of the DriverGear springs still (before I took them off)....they settled to 26 1/4" all the way around (ground to fender)

Hi, I just had DriverGear springs installed. How long do you think it takes for them to settle down?
The reason I ask is that the fronts are 26 1/4 but the rears are nearly 27, hoping they come down a little more. Will post pics on this thread on the weekend..

[Aonarch]

Snobr, went to a local VW/Audi/Porsche guy today to ask about spring install costs. he wants $600 just for the install, and says it has to be alligned after the install. too rich for my blood at this point. I'll keep looking around for another shop. thanks for the post

Negatory... Its only 2 hours labor, 3 if you suck. An alignment isn't necessary, but I recommend one to get your toe in line. Still that should be about $250. If you were local I'd do it on the cheap for you.

[mjd0147]

Negatory... Its only 2 hours labor, 3 if you suck. An alignment isn't necessary, but I recommend one to get your toe in line. Still that should be about $250. If you were local I'd do it on the cheap for you.

Yeah it only takes 2-3 hours when you know what you're doing, but any dealer or Midas type shop charges like 5-6 hours.

[jro183]

Hi,

I just called Keffer VW and they quoted me $343.00 for part #3C0071678. Anyone have another source for a reasonable price?

Thanks,

J.R.O
Denver, CO

[Adam@CheckeredFlagVW]

Hi,

I just called Keffer VW and they quoted me $343.00 for part #3C0071678. Anyone have another source for a reasonable price?

Thanks,

J.R.O
Denver, CO

HI .......pm'd you a price

[Poprocks01]

Stock:

DriverGear:


H&R's:

Is that normal for the rear gap to be less than the front gap with the H&R's?

Just bought a set and I'm hesitating to put them on now .... DG's look more balanced.

[dubious judas]

Thanks a lot for posting the comparison shots snobrdrdan! The DGs definitely look more like an even drop to me. Very enticing considering I have a $100 gift card for VW parts!

[jkeith72]

I installed the DG kit as well. They are a pretty mild drop, but at the very least....they level the car, which it needs badly. No regrets so far. Will render my final decision when I get better wheels. The stock 17's just keep looking smaller every time I look at them.

[Epence]

Is that normal for the rear gap to be less than the front gap with the H&R's?

Just bought a set and I'm hesitating to put them on now .... DG's look more balanced.

It's the rake effect. In this case, it's reverse rake. H&R don't drop lower in the rear. If you take a picture of the stock CC. The rear fender frame is lower than the front one. D&G give the forward rake effect, which means the rear springs don't drop as low.

Here's a pic of F.Rizzo's car on H&R


I told you he went back on his stock 18s


Hope that helps.

[Poprocks01]

It's the rake effect. In this case, it's reverse rake. H&R don't drop lower in the rear. If you take a picture of the stock CC. The rear fender frame is lower than the front one. D&G give the forward rake effect, which means the rear springs don't drop as low.


Hope that helps.

Thanks dude. Yeah, in some pictures the reverse rake is pronounced. In these two you posted here, car looks pretty level. Well, I'm installing the H&R's tomorrow and we'll see how they look.

[Daze513]

Just a friendly reminder to all that rake, is measured from the bottom of the car. For example from the bottom of the actual frame behind the side skirts where a jack would go. That is what should be used as a reference point for "levelness" (if thats even a word).

Since the rear wheel arch is smaller than the front wheel arch, measuring from the fender to the ground is not an accurate representation of level. If the car were to be perfectly level measuring from the bottom of the car, there would be more gap in the front well, compared to the rear well.

If the car were perfectly level using the fender as a point of reference then the car would in actuality have forward rake. You all probably already knew that but i just felt like typing. lol

[Epence]

i just wish all cars' fender arch are the same size.

[Boosted2003!]

I like the even lowering look. The H&R looks sorta like when a dog is pulling itself across the floor when it has a butt itch.

[Poprocks01]

Any angle except dead-on side and it looks sick with h&r springs.

[Epence]

post some pics, adam

[Poprocks01]

post some pics, adam

I'll post pics over in the suspension thread!

[pandavw86]

If these DG springs ever come on sale again, I'm picking up a set

[kaysid]

Here are some pics of mine on the DG Springs. Lowered the front and rear around an inch. As mentioned it is a very mild drop, but I am happy with the result as this is my DD and ride quality change is imperceptible from stock.









Cheers
K.

[praneetloke]

those wheels look amazing sid!