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#39
Don't hold your breath guys, it's going to my build, not just a weekend swap
Most of you know, just saying for future reference.![]()
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#41
I just wanna throw this out there as some FYI about this cam before everyone jumps on board that its the best thing FI for your ABA, and I'm not dissing this cam by any means. What you need to understand is Q was pushing some very serious numbers and got a very serious cam for power gains very high in the power band.
More than likely this is not going to be the best choice for the majority of builds as it will take away from spool, low and mid range torque to move the power band to 6k+... which really most ABA's are reving too much further past that point...
So you'll be losing some of that area under the curve in most mid power area's which could potientally make your car slower as you arn't utilizing the potential area's that the cam is exceeding against a 260/256 or 268 or 270 cam setup.....
For general setups, the 260/256 is an excellent cam... I've ran all of the above listed cams on different turbo's and exhaust housings (besides of course the current TT we are discussing), and honestly if I had some more time/$ to throw around I'd go back to the 260/256 to understand its benefits on my current setup than the 270 I'm running now.
From the begining of time the reason we choose different cams over stock ABA was..."I want my car's power to pull to redline and not be such a mountain as the stock cam gives.." and all cams listed above will do that, so choosing bigger is not always better based on your setup.. Cam tuning is a very unknown subject around the vortex IMO and it is VERY dependent on what setup you are running... like turbo size, housing choices, head work....and rev ranges
Keep in mind Q's car had head work too, it can very much alter how a cam/turbo setup performs.
I just wanted to make sure some of the newb's understand what they're getting into![]()
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#42
I'm hoping this cam does take away from my low range and helps with spinning the tires so bad. I'm hoping somebody would have some numbers up by now or even a first hand comparison. I talked to tt yesterday and they spoke highly of this cam saying it was very streetable and what not. My car is going together in the next few weeks and I will post some numbers up. My motor is no mountain motor but I am curiuos to see how this cam performs.![]()
#43
Should be some good info, never the less, without a direct comparison from another cam its going to be difficult to understand its true advantages. We certainly do need more data, I wish we could take a day and dyno the cams back to back on a specific setup... I would donate my car
Now we just need some more cams and a dyno...should certainly take less than 30mins to swap out cams![]()
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#44
#45
I would like to go back and run it again.... the 270 I'm running now I have a slightly different setup. I ran a 260/256 with stacked gaskets, stock intake manifold and 50trim .48 exh and that spooled mad crazy fast.... 20psi at 3.5-3.6k.. kept good power curve til 6.5k when we shut it down the the dyno but it was still climbing.
Now I have a short runner with large plenum and 57trim with .63 exh, 9.6:1 CR on the 270...
I've went from 268 to 260/256 to 270..... from the power band perspective I would like to see the gains in spool and mid torque the 260/256 may bring with very little (i'm expecting) loss from top end power 5.5k+
I don't have any solid facts to justify my direction, just general overall experience... from all my years on the vortex, many of which I've ran this ABA-T and I've never seen any graph to spool like mine on a 50trim, and I feel much of that is from the 260/256 cam/turbo combo.....
There was a graph floating around where I overlayed my torque curve vs BBM charger and it almost matched from 2-3k... and then I far exceeded it![]()
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#46
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#47
I'd be interested in that too, I haven't even received mine yet.. they sent me the wrong 276 and said they'd send the right one the instant the confirmation went through that I shipped the cam back.
I send an email a couple days later asking for a tracking number.. they never even had a batch ready in the first place.
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#48
Not really surprised. With Q gone to boot camp who knows where the development of more products for the 2.0 will go.
#49
well im doing as very slow build as money comes in and ill be running this cam, thats why i would like to see it done first but being the first is fine with me. hmm thats bull****. i would be on the phone with them every single day until they sent it and provided a tracking number.
this the one your getting?:
http://www.techtonicstuning.com/main...oducts_id=1766
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#50
I'll be damned! They actually put the damn thing on the website.
Edit: They misspelled lobe![]()
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#51
yeah i just searched 276 and its there. couldnt find it any other way. dont know what category its in.
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#52
would deff like to see what this cam does. I've tried the 268 260 and it was great midrange but felt like it died after 6000rpm then I ordered a 272 270 cam from schrick and it pulls to 7000 without a problem. I never played with cam timing on this but probably would be even better with a little tuning. I think ima try a 270 for the hell of it to see the difference since I have one laying around
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#53
So now that I'm back from basic..who has one of these gems installed?
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#54
Bump from the dead, anybody get this thing in another running 8v yet?
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#56
You don't follow my thread do you? lol, things are still in motion will my build.![]()
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#58
Don't understand how that's facepalm material, but okay.
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#60
I'm looking into getting one of these. I just got my ABA up and running this morning NA with insane head work an a 268, thought it felt great. I want to see how your cam runs NA with my Zornig SRIthen I'll add my turbocharger
#61
Hi,first of all!! Has someone bolt this cam? Seems like a good cam and with 114 lobe centers there is no boost going out the exhaust,so it keeps the powerband in check.from my readings i've learned that a 114 lc would make the idle,low end torque but having a 276 duration will go up,i'm thinking 3,000-3,500 rpm's its going to go "on cam"still with a supercharger i would supose since the engine having boost at low levels should be fun,will see how it performs in my g60 with 68mm,anyone with some input please do share,Roderick!!
#62
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#65
i can not get ahold of jakrabbit to try and buy one of his cams so i will have one of these in the next month, i will be racing with it at the end of september, i hope it helps the car pull clear to 7k
#67
I have this cam in my GT with the BBM stage 3 peaking 1.4 BAR. I love it. When I compared it to the 268/260 the kit came with, the 276* looked huge..
Idle is great, better than when I was N/A with my TT 276* street/race. Pulls to the cut-off very hard (Idk what RPM it is, it's past 7k RPM on the cluster). Low end is a little.. well, I can't tell you if I noticed a difference between my old cam because I wasn't running the Lysholm. I've found that I don't need to tune my camgear at all to bring the low end back like I needed to do with my original N/A cam, but instant 1.4 BAR of boost is the reason for that.![]()
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#69
now obiously i would and will need the uprated springs, and i will be running new lifter also, so they wear in together,
im running a obd 1 head, and when my bigger build starts, (after i have a second vehicle) the head will come off and get fully worked.
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