swapping motors

[pennsydubbin]

Well, I'm not really sure what exactly happened to my motor just yet, but after a short 10 minute drive last saturday when I went to start it back up it wouldn't start and had this horrible knocking sound. I think it's the valves slapping against the cam lobes? I checked the oil level then and it wasn't on the stick...which confused me because i just did the oil 2 weeks prior to this happening. Anyway, since I have the 05.5 engine the timing chain is prone to have problems so i'm not sure if that stretched or skipped. Josh as NLS said my best bet for whatever is wrong is just to put a new motor in so that's what i'm doing. I have no experience what so ever doing a motor swap so this is going to be a learning experience for me and i'll probably get stuck a few times along the way. I'll update this thread daily with pics of my progress.





well now i know i have the 2 bolt tranny mount when i order my mounts lol

[thygreyt]

good luck. keep us pictured!

[TylerO28]

You'll be surprised how easy these cars come apart! Where did you source your new motor?

[pennsydubbin]

I had a friend find me an 08 engine with only 7k miles! Josh at NLS found an engine for me too but the 08 was a good price that I couldn't pass up.

I might post some more pics later but right now I'm chillin by the pool enjoying some beers

[thygreyt]

wow. congrats!!!

[tay272]

well now i know i have the 2 bolt tranny mount when i order my mounts lol

Dude my NLS short shifter looks exactly like yours I had to laugh at that one. All rusted where the logo should be.

[pennsydubbin]

Dude my NLS short shifter looks exactly like yours I had to laugh at that one. All rusted where the logo should be.

haha yea what's up with that I wonder why it does that?

[eatrach]

how many miles did you have on the previous motor?

[pennsydubbin]

how many miles did you have on the previous motor?

86,xxx. Don't know the exact number because I can't check right now.

[GTACanuck]

Hey good luck with the swap ahead of ya! Keep us posted with lots of pics!

[eatrach]

86K!!! wow that sucks. That is half the life on those motors.
any plans of doing something to the motor? such as valve springs, port and polish etc...

[pennsydubbin]

86K!!! wow that sucks. That is half the life on those motors.
any plans of doing something to the motor? such as valve springs, port and polish etc...

yea it sucks but putting this new engine in gives me something to do after work haha. My dad's old golf had 340,000 miles on it before he scraped it for this jetta that i have now. I'd expect these engines to go well over 200k if maintained properly.

Anyway, no plans for my old motor right now. I actually listed it for part out on here but I think I might just keep it as a spare and possibly build it once i get out of school I still need to open the damn thing too to figure out what actually when wrong. I'm going work on it now for a few hours so stay posted for pics.

[HIBB 304]

haha yea what's up with that I wonder why it does that?

Mine looks the same way,wtf?

[pennsydubbin]

Hey good luck with the swap ahead of ya! Keep us posted with lots of pics!

thanks

[pennsydubbin]

Mine looks the same way,wtf?

yea no idea

I didn't get much done today because I was hangover from last night and got a late start. All I got done was disconnecting that axles. I wish I could work on it more but i have to go to my girlfriends birthday picnic. Tomorrow will be the day when the engine and trans actually get pulled, then I just have to wait till my new motor gets here....the holiday is delaying its arrival

[thygreyt]

Where did you buy the engine??

[pennsydubbin]

A place called ridge road auto parts in Ohio. Its about 6 and a half hours away from where I live so it should only take 2 days to get here. It shipped out on Friday so I'm guessing it'll be here Tuesday since tomorrow is a holiday.

[tay272]

Mine looks the same way,wtf?

Its deffinately from rainwater getting in the engine and then the moisture collects in that area and rusts it up. My engine can get kinda damp looking after driving through the rain. Another reason why VW decided to finally update thier coilpacks cause of water leaking into the holes and messin stuff up.

[pennsydubbin]

just got done pulling the motor and trans out. After i finish eating i'll load the pictures

[eatrach]

just got done pulling the motor and trans out. After i finish eating i'll load the pictures

doing it yourself? wow... I wish I had the equipment and the know how. The only thing I can do are brakes, oil changes, plugs, fluids (all), and that is all

[pennsydubbin]

faceless bolts holding the ECU in


with the help of the Dremel I was able to make two slits so a flat head can unscrew them


ECU


trans mount out


engine lift brackets in!


my cousin getting the lift set up


hooked up and ready to be taken out






and a pic of the engine-less bay



and with me in it!


there she sits...tomorrow i'm going to open her up and see what went wrong and hopefully my new one will be here tomorrow or Wednesday


and chugging a beer to a job well done

[pennsydubbin]

doing it yourself? wow... I wish I had the equipment and the know how. The only thing I can do are brakes, oil changes, plugs, fluids (all), and that is all

Yup did it myself and fortunately had the equipment to do so. Did I know what I was doing...not really, but I just started taking things apart and basically learned along the way. I would encourage anyone to do it themselves if they had to because it was highly satisfying doing it myself

[eatrach]

Yup did it myself and fortunately had the equipment to do so. Did I know what I was doing...not really, but I just started taking things apart and basically learned along the way. I would encourage anyone to do it themselves if they had to because it was highly satisfying doing it myself

If I do, I would tempted to put a V10

[vwluger22]

The tare down is the easy part its putting everything back in place with the proper specs is the hard part and heres another one for you for doing it yourself.

[eatrach]

btw, did you paint your calipers or are those upgraded GTI/GLI calipers?

[thygreyt]

nice job man!

yeah.. putting it back together is where the fun is!

[tay272]

Congrats on getting it out. Blue Moon, good choice haha

[pennsydubbin]

The tare down is the easy part its putting everything back in place with the proper specs is the hard part and heres another one for you for doing it yourself.

haha yea i'm sure putting everything back is definitely the hard part. I was able to label everything so I know where each sensor and piping goes. Hopefully it all works out!

btw, did you paint your calipers or are those upgraded GTI/GLI calipers?

I painted them I bought the caliper paint kit from pep boys because the kit came with the paint and a bush so it was much easier then using a spray can It cost $20 i think

nice job man!

yeah.. putting it back together is where the fun is!

Congrats on getting it out. Blue Moon, good choice haha

Thanks guys! Blue moon is my favorite beer

[nothing-leaves-stock]

COOL! glad its going well for you!

our short shifter is machined and not recoated on that area...to keep cost down. if we coated them again it would cost 8-10 more. felt is was better to keep them under $100 and you could paint them instead

i DO have a 2007 COMPLETE motor swap for sale here, complete motor, ecu, harness, cluster etc etc etc a FULL swap. no trans tho
PM me for info if someone needs one.

[pennsydubbin]

COOL! glad its going well for you!

our short shifter is machined and not recoated on that area...to keep cost down. if we coated them again it would cost 8-10 more. felt is was better to keep them under $100 and you could paint them instead

i DO have a 2007 COMPLETE motor swap for sale here, complete motor, ecu, harness, cluster etc etc etc a FULL swap. no trans tho
PM me for info if someone needs one.

Thanks Josh, and thanks for also finding that 07 motor for me. I'm anxious to open this thing up to see what actually happened.

And don't worry about the short shifter i could care less how it look. Definitely a better decision not to coat and make more cost efficient..but I might paint it now that you said that

[pennsydubbin]

just checked the tracking and the engine comes today Had it shipped to a buddies commercial address for cheaper rate than residential. Hopefully my dad can pick it up for me because I'll be gone from 3-9 for a night class i'm taking

*edit* dad said he'll pick it up for me

[pennsydubbin]

arrival of the new motor



old motor, meet new motor...your replacement


and with the nice engine cover lol

[GTACanuck]

So clean and purrrrdy

You got your work cut out for you my friend! Keep us posted

[eatrach]

wow, the new/used engine looks soo... cleannn. my goodness, I can eat off of that

[pennsydubbin]

Haha it is VERY clean- exactly what I expected for only having 7k
After work today I'm going to start transferring over the parts I need to and get ready to start putting the motor back in