A little build

[mach5racing4]

Awesome build man! I cant wait to see the complete finished product

[stevem589]

Even though it doesn't seem like I work on this much ...It really consumes all of my time ...
It is fast however. Just a quick note..A freind of mine has a 630 to the wheel drag car ...I let him drive it and he come back smiling like he stole something ..
After driving this for a couple of weeks , the mounts for the shocks, the Cams I guess I would call them...The clearance issues, the cheap rod ends, etc...Well , were just not good enough..
I am supposed to get it blasted in the morning yeaaaa.. I have fully tabbed it out . Upgraded all shock mounts( scabbed them with some heavier pipe and went with 3/16" tabs instead of 1/8"), a few rod ends , seat belt mounts . closed in the "A" arm tabs .

A few pics..


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Cam difference

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[ray32]

great fab work!

[2OVT]

impressive! what issues are you currently having?

[stevem589]

Well , I got the frame blasted and epoxy primed ...took 4 days to sand it to get ready to paint.
Decided to go with the flat Black ...just trying to put it back together ..
Between the rain and the heat ..it is tough ..
anywhoo.......






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[turbinepowered]

Dude, I am serious impressed.

[akid420]

+ for not cutting corners

[stevem589]

Been working hard on it ..but gotta go back to work ..so , its all I could get done ..






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[turbinepowered]

So what tools have you used so far in this build? I'm especially curious about how you shaped your big tubing sections.

[blind]

How bad is the heat when the rad fan is on? I know bikes can roast you in traffic.

[stevem589]

So what tools have you used so far in this build? I'm especially curious about how you shaped your big tubing sections.

The bends were made with a harbor freight bender..It had to be modified , I kept shearing the pins on the dies . It did take quite some time to get the sides the same ..Besides that on tools , I have the miniture lincoln, a matobo , and another cheap grinder ..that is all .. http://www.harborfreight.com/tubing-roller-99736.html

How bad is the heat when the rad fan is on? I know bikes can roast you in traffic.

So far on the radiator , I it hasn't been bad ..but .......I haven't driven it for any distance . I am planning on putting some kind of heat shield that takes the heat to ground.. Thought also , to make some kind of vent to route some of that heat inside when it gets cooler out ..

[turbinepowered]

The bends were made with a harbor freight bender..It had to be modified , I kept shearing the pins on the dies . It did take quite some time to get the sides the same ..Besides that on tools , I have the miniture lincoln, a matobo , and another cheap grinder ..that is all .. http://www.harborfreight.com/tubing-roller-99736.html

Nice work then, especially for such a "primitive" fab setup. I guess you drilled out the die pins to put some more appropriate sized ones in?

Going to add an English Wheel to your tool array when it comes time for the body, or are you going to go fiberglass?

[stevem589]

well , they were pinned in from the outside of the die ..so , I used grade 8 bolts to hold them .
As far as a english wheel , that was the plan,
A lot of people coming by now to see it ..not to work...anywho...they are telling me to maybe
not go with a body ..so , I am really undecided ..I do know I will be putting some A** time in
it before I do anymore work to it ..

[DeepSeaDynamo]

...the Cams I guess I would call them...The clearance issues, the cheap rod ends, etc...Well , were just not good enough..
I am supposed to get it blasted in the morning yeaaaa.. I have fully tabbed it out . Upgraded all shock mounts( scabbed them with some heavier pipe and went with 3/16" tabs instead of 1/8"), a few rod ends , seat belt mounts . closed in the "A" arm tabs .

Cam difference

By stevem589 at 2012-07-08

Those are bell cranks. Great job on everything, car looks amazing.

Edit: formatting

[stevem589]

Hey been doing work on it ..just slow ..working the bugs out..anywho


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[GTijoejoe]

I really like this project, just super fun thing to do, love fab work. I'd love to do something like this one day when I got the space.

Than's for sharing dude

[stevem589]

Since the redue on the suspension. I have a bounce under acceleration.I have not been able to look at it due to the storm..but maybe tomorrow it wont rain. Also having some kind of bog. I am not real sure about that either I don't think I have a leak. It is almost like I can't get it to a higher rpm.

[KlutchKing]

Also having some kind of bog. I am not real sure about that either I don't think I have a leak. It is almost like I can't get it to a higher rpm.

Maybe it's in limp mode?

[stevem589]

Maybe so man.. I still have wiring issues. I am not sure what would put it in limp mode. Thanks

[fouckhest]

Maybe so man.. I still have wiring issues. I am not sure what would put it in limp mode. Thanks

its not in limp mode...i wouldnt get out of its own way if it was...

gotta be something little like a vacuum leak...

[stevem589]

its not in limp mode...i wouldnt get out of its own way if it was...

gotta be something little like a vacuum leak...

Maybe so Michael .. it wont stop raining..
it was like it would load up and not go..
There is not much left on there for a vacuum problem..I am looking tho.
I have a bad bounce I am looking for too
I have 2 springs on the throttle pedal. It is so touchy.
I will let u know as soon as I can break it out ....errr rain

[stevem589]

Ok .. I need some help or advice. The car is running way too hot. I cannot for the life of me figure this out.
I temporary mounted the cooling ball back on the car about 6-8 inches above the engine. Thinking to get the air all out. This is not working. I have swapped the cooling lines just to see what happens. I have put 3 different. Thermostats in. And now my latest thing was to pull the thermostat out of the engine...I checked the water pump. It has a Metal impeller. I have no water in the oil. I don't think I have a head gasket issue at all...so I guess what I am asking is......tada ....do you think the stock pump just doesn't have enough flow to cool it off? And also.. should I look at putting a pump in line to make it flow better?
Thanks

[AJmustDIE]

I think an electric water pump helping would definitely do ya.

[tiopedro]

Hey been doing work on it ..just slow ..working the bugs out..anywho


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AHHHHH!!! so damn sexy!

Get her running cool and smooth!

[stevem589]

Thanks..I got it cooling better.. gonna build a shroud and then it should be alot better. Going to try to do this today

[akid420]

As far as fluid flow it shouldn't matter much that the radiator is farther from the engine compared to a stock vehicle. The only added resistance would be friction which would be minimal. The greater factor would be the size of the lines going from the engine to rad(too big or too small will impeed flow). Could be wrong but thats what i learned in my fluid dynamics course.

I'd guess the greatest factor would be the overall surface area of the rad that dissapates the heat. So maybe stronger fan? Guessing the over heating happens when its not rolling?
Shroud should deffinetly help get more air moving through rad and amplify dissapation of the heat.

Good luck. Want to see this thing ripping up the streets.

[stevem589]

Ok just drove it for about 30 minutes straight and it cooled off great!! The shroud and no thermostat
Worked out just fine. So I can cross that problem off.
The only issue I really have left is the bouncing under acceleration. I am not in limp mode. It will at a certain point
When its not bouncing pull all the way up to almost redline. So it is just about half the time I will have to up shift
And pedal the throttle.
So who knows..??? Could be the chassis flexing?
I am gonna bring it to a chassis Guy Saturday and see what he thinks.
thanks for the comments.

[tiopedro]

Ok just drove it for about 30 minutes straight and it cooled off great!! The shroud and no thermostat
Worked out just fine. So I can cross that problem off.
The only issue I really have left is the bouncing under acceleration. I am not in limp mode. It will at a certain point
When its not bouncing pull all the way up to almost redline. So it is just about half the time I will have to up shift
And pedal the throttle.
So who knows..??? Could be the chassis flexing?
I am gonna bring it to a chassis Guy Saturday and see what he thinks.
thanks for the comments.

[zoidmk5]

there should be a substantial difference between the feeling of bouncing under flex, or do to a change in the load given by the motor. your chassis guy should beable to pinpoint it pretty easy...or so i assume

[stevem589]

Thanks.. ya this Guy is suposed to be the local expert..I really hope he can help

[stevem589]

So...the timing is off a tooth. I have one bad coil.the intake temp sensor is
Not working. But the suspension and frame are not flexing.
just gotta do some more work! Yaaa

[zoidmk5]

thats all small potatoes, get them squared away and lets see some videos of this thing in motion

[stevem589]

I know man.. but it just seems like one thing after another
Ok I will quit crying...

[stevem589]

Ok I put in some new plugs and new coils. The intercooler multi switch. Put a vacuum source to
The dv. And walaa ..I am almost scared of it..it is almost stupid how I thought limp mode was somewhat
Fast..I didn't know it was in limp mode. So... anyway..I got it fired up and started down the street
And I got on it to the floor.. it pinned me to the seat.. so I backed off and putt puttted to a straight away
So I decided to see what it really has..I rolled on about 10 MPH in second gear. Stomped on it ...redline switched to third ..stayed in it .....when switching to 4th. It blew the coupling in 2 on the intercooler. Sounded like a shotgun going off!! I said to myself ...self.. are you still alive?.. anyway.. by far the fastest thing I have drove ever.
Soon as I get a new coupler I will have a video..

[arethirdytwo]

Best update ever! Haha. I have been watching this from the start and I think a lot of us have been thinking you were in limp mode. A factory 1.8t, even in Jetta form is a "zippy" car. A set of tubes plus that same motor and then some should be insane.

Really happy you got this up and running. My only bit of advice would be to really go through it all now. I am not a chassis guy so just make sure you have it braced right and the rear can hold the power. Past that... I may have my first project once we buy our house

I will also donate an 02M minus bell housing if you put a VR6 in this, you can grab a 2wd BH for around $100-$150. PM with pic of VR6 if you are interested.

Super Serial about the 02M BTW.

Ok I put in some new plugs and new coils. The intercooler multi switch. Put a vacuum source to
The dv. And walaa ..I am almost scared of it..it is almost stupid how I thought limp mode was somewhat
Fast..I didn't know it was in limp mode. So... anyway..I got it fired up and started down the street
And I got on it to the floor.. it pinned me to the seat.. so I backed off and putt puttted to a straight away
So I decided to see what it really has..I rolled on about 10 MPH in second gear. Stomped on it ...redline switched to third ..stayed in it .....when switching to 4th. It blew the coupling in 2 on the intercooler. Sounded like a shotgun going off!! I said to myself ...self.. are you still alive?.. anyway.. by far the fastest thing I have drove ever.
Soon as I get a new coupler I will have a video..