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    1. Member miggs's Avatar
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      06-01-2011 06:33 PM #1




      Engine is in this car this (has g60 flares and aero front end now tho)


      sorry for the cell pics.....

      Going in for dyno and tuning at TT tomorrow. I will post numbers then.

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      sweet
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      06-01-2011 07:59 PM #3
      Looks like a real ABF to
      Me Not just a aba/16v

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      06-01-2011 08:09 PM #4
      Man real fuel injection, I'm about to shoot the motronic cis in my car.

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      06-01-2011 08:15 PM #5
      ya its pretty much an abf clone. i even have the plug wire holder.

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      06-01-2011 09:50 PM #6
      Specs(cams/head work ect)? Management details? What'd ya do for pistons?

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      06-01-2011 10:08 PM #7
      TT ABF clone cams
      1.8 head port and polish
      Mahle 83mm ABF pistons
      Random ABF bits
      running OBD1

      Going to have it on the dyno for tuning tomorrow.
      Last edited by miggs; 06-01-2011 at 10:13 PM.

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      06-02-2011 04:31 PM #8
      Got my car on the dyno during my lunch hour. Just waiting to get off work and start the dynoing. I cant wait!!!!



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      06-03-2011 11:26 AM #9
      well the final number was 143whp. i was hoping for 150 but im not gonna complain. it is much fast than the 2.slow i had in there before haha. its gonna go back on the dyno soon to try and reach that goal....

      im gonna be racing it tomorrow so ill post the 1/4 times when i get back from the races...

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      06-03-2011 02:01 PM #10
      143whp is great considering there is not much more than stock there...

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      06-03-2011 02:08 PM #11
      My friend has a real abf and made 143.5whp so im pretty please with it. i did however make 5lb more torque then he did. I may get some bigger cams down the road and eventually do up a head.
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      06-03-2011 07:30 PM #12
      I have seen a stocker put down 154whp, and that was on megasquirt with a TT Race header and 2.5" exhaust, so you are damn close.

      I'm making an abf clone for my mk2 also so i like seeing those numbers

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      06-03-2011 08:37 PM #13
      Well that's good to hear . ya a lot of the abf parts like the breather and hoses you can get new from vw of Germany still. we had a guy that is stationed over there ship a few things this way. I found intake, fuel rail, and tb in the classifieds CHEAP. The new stuff is not cheap but if you are going to do it do it right.

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      06-03-2011 08:42 PM #14
      ill have a stock 42mm intake for a bit, unless i can source an abf unit cheap. Also ill have megasquirt and 2.25 exhaust with stock exhaust mani/dp. Cams with be stock 9a with a exhaust cam swapped for intake. Going super cheap way so we'll see how she does. If i ended up any where near the 140whp range i would be stoked

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      06-03-2011 10:15 PM #15
      This is relevant to my interests. Nice.
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      06-05-2011 01:13 AM #16
      I drag raced my jetta at the VW Bug Run today in Woodburn Or. My best time was 15.75. I was hoping for a 15.3 or so but it was my first time racing and I have a wide ratio trans.

      I went head to head with my friend Randy from TT who has a real ABF in his mk2. I was surprised when i ended up being a tenth second faster then him. I was pretty happy about that

      Over the winter I am going to try to build a 9A up for it. I had one in there for awhile when I had the 2.slow and loved it until it blew up. I'd like to do some sort of LSD and a wide 5th since it is my daily driver (when its not in pieces).

      Something else I would like to do over the winter is find a 93' passat head and build it. They have the same casting and part number as the ABF head. I would do full port and polish, over-sized valves and bigger cams.

      If you have any questions about my engine feel free to ask.

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      06-05-2011 02:34 AM #17
      Here is a dyno vid and some pics from the show today....

      http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...t=dynorun1.mp4


















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      06-05-2011 01:56 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by -RalleyTuned- View Post
      ill have a stock 42mm intake for a bit, unless i can source an abf unit cheap. Also ill have megasquirt and 2.25 exhaust with stock exhaust mani/dp. Cams with be stock 9a with a exhaust cam swapped for intake. Going super cheap way so we'll see how she does. If i ended up any where near the 140whp range i would be stoked
      how much of a difference do you think running itbs have on numbers?

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      06-05-2011 03:43 PM #19
      on a stock engine, no difference

      on a high compression huge cam engine you could make a large increase with tuning. Since with itb's you can change runner length to tune the power band and there is no intake restrictions either

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      06-08-2011 07:06 PM #20
      I found some pictures from my engine build and swap.

      ABA out




      block back from the machine shop


      pistons in


      2 engines at the same time. ( the front one is a turbo 16v)


      ports




      head on


      cams in


      valve cover done


      buttoned up


      ready to go in

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      06-11-2011 02:00 PM #21
      I changed my trans out on Thursday night after work for the closer ratio 9A. I had the ACH trans in which is the widest ratio trans i believe. I was hoping that would get me closer to the 15.2 quarter mile mark that I was trying to reach. I got the trans swapped in 3 hours, which is my personal best not using air tools, and went to change the fluid and what do you know, i take the drain plug out and there is was appears to be the head of a rivet sitting on top of the drain plug. I guess I wont be doing any racing with this trans. the good news is i found a 9A for $50 that will be gone thru and getting a bolt kit and tall 5th.

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      06-14-2011 01:33 AM #22
      I took a little road trip this weekend and decided it was time to find out what the MPG would be. I was thinking it would get around 26-27 MPG. I was very surprised when i got back and filled up again that it was getting 31 MPG. the trip was only 150 miles and mostly highway but I was still very please.

      I was wondering what it would get if I still had the tall 5th gear in there. Any thoughts(guesses)?

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      06-26-2011 01:10 AM #23
      Well I hit the 1000 mile mark on my engine today. No engine problems what so ever which I am very pleased about!!

      I found some more pictures from the Bug Run that i raced at...






      That black gti has an 8V and a LSD and ran 15.2 in the 1/4 mile. I was pretty surprised.

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      08-23-2011 02:23 AM #24
      I have been working on some wheels for my car. here they are...




      8 and 8.5" bbs rms.
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      09-11-2011 02:12 AM #25
      wheels done and car cleaned up for the show tomorrow

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      09-14-2011 11:52 PM #26
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      09-15-2011 12:30 AM #27
      wow that looks great! nice work man

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      09-15-2011 12:59 AM #28
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      09-15-2011 01:47 AM #29
      how did i miss this car...show and shine? Looks good

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      09-15-2011 01:58 AM #30
      nah, i was parked in the show section right next to the purple mk2 jetta. i wasnt planning on showing so my car wasnt very clean haha.
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      09-15-2011 02:00 AM #31
      A picture from a local show this weekend.

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      09-15-2011 02:04 AM #32
      and a picture of all my techtonics receipts from the last couple of years..

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      09-15-2011 11:34 AM #33
      this is an awesome thread! i have been kicking around the idea of an abf clone for about a year now. i'd be so pumped to make 145 hp.
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      09-15-2011 11:51 AM #34
      I am very pleased with the power.. of course, I still want more lol
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