NEW Stabila Series Sway Bars For MK5 & MK6

**black forest ind** · 06-07-2011 05:37 PM

Black Forest Industries is proud to announce the release of our newest product line: The Stabila Series Swaybars A long time in the making this sway bar series features solid sprung steel construction in both “Street” and soon to be available “Corse” applications. With forged ends and durable multiple powdercoat finish these swaybars are strong enough to stand up to whatever you can throw at them.

MK5 Rear Sway Bar

This 2 way position adjustable solid bar is just what your MK5 or MK6 is missing. Install is extremely simple and all necessary hardware and instructions are included.

**evosky** · 06-09-2011 11:03 AM

hmmm interesting. i like that sizing. the price is right too.

**joe@blackforest** · 06-09-2011 08:47 PM

**Boxn'GTI** · 06-13-2011 01:58 PM

Black Forest -

Glad to see you are offering this swaybar, and your pricing is very good.

However, could you please explain why I should buy this over an established competitor, like the 24mm H&R solid bar...

Such as...

- How do your poly bushings avoid SQUEAKS and other noises over the long-term?

- What are the stiffness profiles for each setting (relevant to the stock bar)?

THANX.

**black forest ind** · 06-13-2011 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Boxn'GTI

Black Forest -

Glad to see you are offering this swaybar, and your pricing is very good.

However, could you please explain why I should buy this over an established competitor, like the 24mm H&R solid bar...

Such as...

- How do your poly bushings avoid SQUEAKS and other noises over the long-term?

- What are the stiffness profiles for each setting (relevant to the stock bar)?

THANX.

The bushings are not only coated but they are also impregnated with graphite to prevent any possible issues with squeaking. The stiffness profiles are as follows:

position 1 - 130% stiffer than stock
position 2 - 205% stiffer than stock

**emac08** · 07-11-2011 10:41 PM

awesome!

**Guack007** · 07-13-2011 01:30 PM

Just installed the 25MM Rear bar on my TDI 4dr Golf.

Install went great. I bought this triple square set at autozone (it was the last one in stock and I had to drive to the farther autozone to get it but it worked perfectly)

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...mString=search

I used this lube (1 tube per bushing) as it is made for this application and the sway bar doesn't come with any:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PTP-19-1750/

No squeeks at all and the handling improvement is noticeable. I highly recommend this product.

I am going to be doing the drivers gear VW sport springs next and will let you guys know how that goes in another thread.

**black forest ind** · 07-20-2011 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Guack007

Just installed the 25MM Rear bar on my TDI 4dr Golf.

Install went great. I bought this triple square set at autozone (it was the last one in stock and I had to drive to the farther autozone to get it but it worked perfectly)

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...mString=search

I used this lube (1 tube per bushing) as it is made for this application and the sway bar doesn't come with any:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PTP-19-1750/

No squeeks at all and the handling improvement is noticeable. I highly recommend this product.

I am going to be doing the drivers gear VW sport springs next and will let you guys know how that goes in another thread.

Appreciate the feedback.

**Guack007** · 07-20-2011 02:03 PM

Well, after a couple weeks there is now a clunking noise coming from the rear. I took everything out of the trunk and the noise is definitely a clunking noise which can be heard when either tire hits a manhole cover or small pothole. Also when entering a driveway that is uneven you hear it.

Any suggestions?

When I installed it, I put the car on jack stands and torqued everything down with a torque wrench and followed the procedure in the install guide exactly. Perhaps I should go back and re-torque everything with the car on the ground or on ramps so the suspension is loaded??

**black forest ind** · 07-21-2011 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Guack007

Well, after a couple weeks there is now a clunking noise coming from the rear. I took everything out of the trunk and the noise is definitely a clunking noise which can be heard when either tire hits a manhole cover or small pothole. Also when entering a driveway that is uneven you hear it.

Any suggestions?

When I installed it, I put the car on jack stands and torqued everything down with a torque wrench and followed the procedure in the install guide exactly. Perhaps I should go back and re-torque everything with the car on the ground or on ramps so the suspension is loaded??

You may want to double check and re-torque everything back down. The "clunking" may be attributed to the end links not being torqued correctly. It would be really inconvenient to torque with the car loaded but either method should work. If any of the issues persist, please send an email to sales@blackforestindustries.com and we will try to assist you from there.

**Guack007** · 07-26-2011 08:22 PM

I ended up using Blue Lock-tight on the 4 bolts that hold the brackets to the subframe after talking to you guys and it seems to have fixed the issue.

This should really be included in the install instructions.

**black forest ind** · 07-27-2011 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Guack007

I ended up using Blue Lock-tight on the 4 bolts that hold the brackets to the subframe after talking to you guys and it seems to have fixed the issue.

This should really be included in the install instructions.

I believe you spoke with me, thank you for posting feedback. Blue loctite works wonders, you can also torque past specs a bit if anyone is having this issue. I'd reccomend both for assurance.

- Tom BFI

**Guack007** · 08-09-2011 12:14 PM

Well, now the sway bar is making a pretty loud squeeking/creaking noise constantly. I checked all the bolts and everything is tight so I have to assume its coming from the bushings themselves.

Any suggestions?

**joe@blackforest** · 08-09-2011 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Guack007

Well, now the sway bar is making a pretty loud squeeking/creaking noise constantly. I checked all the bolts and everything is tight so I have to assume its coming from the bushings themselves.

Any suggestions?

Please send me an email to sales@blackforestindustries.com - it will be easier to discuss it at length that way - if you could send me come pictures of the endlinks and bushing mounting brackets with the suspension loaded and we can help to find out what the issue is.

**tsibri** · 08-09-2011 08:38 PM

Sounds like my worst nightmare come true...good luck to you.

**Guack007** · 08-15-2011 03:21 PM

So after emailing BFI I put the car back on jack stands to check everything out again.

I decided to remove the endlink bolts and nuts as well as the subframe ones that hold the brackets and bushings on. I then wrestled back and forth with the sway bar to get everything to be as even in all directions as I could and began tightening down all hardware with blue thread locker. I decided to do the subframe brackets first and then wrestle with it again so everything was centered and as even as I could. I then tightened down the endlinks and torqued everything to spec.

End result is a quiet swaybar with zero noise. How long will it stay quiet for is yet to be determined but so far so good, its been about a week.

I hope this helps.

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