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    Thread: Juiceless in Seattle? The Emerald City gets some charging stations and joins the Electric Highway care of EV Project

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      04-21-2012 12:54 PM #201
      Quote Originally Posted by Massive Attack View Post
      440 charging station in Cottage Grove, Oregon

      Full charge for a Volt? 20 minutes

      Volt's don't have level three DC Fast Charger capability. It will take a LEAF from 0-80% in 30 minutes though.
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      04-21-2012 12:57 PM #202
      So whats to stop from someone unplugging your car and plugging it into their electric car? or kids going up to your car unplugging it and sticking gum in your connectors. This reminds me of all those pay phones being tampered with for no reason.

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      04-21-2012 01:16 PM #203
      Quote Originally Posted by kamui4u View Post
      So whats to stop from someone unplugging your car and plugging it into their electric car? or kids going up to your car unplugging it and sticking gum in your connectors. This reminds me of all those pay phones being tampered with for no reason.
      Most charging handles have holes for a luggage key so you can lock the charger to the car. Also, on the chargers you need to pay for, disconnecting it stops the meter, so the next person to plug in needs to authorize it to start charging again.

      Finally, if you lock a Volt with the charger on, disconnecting the charger will set off the alarm.
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      04-21-2012 01:58 PM #204
      Quote Originally Posted by Brendan@bwalkauto View Post
      Volt's don't have level three DC Fast Charger capability. It will take a LEAF from 0-80% in 30 minutes though.

      Thanks for that.

      That explains why the Leaf has the two charge ports.



      So is the following statement correct?

      it's 80% in 30 minutes (Maximum charge current) it then slows down the charge, but can get you to 100% in about an hour.
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      04-21-2012 02:11 PM #205
      Quote Originally Posted by Massive Attack View Post
      Thanks for that.

      That explains why the Leaf has the two charge ports.



      So is the following statement correct?
      Correct. It rapidly charges to 80%, then slowly charges the last 20%. It does that since rapidly charging the upper limit of the pack would degrade its service life rather quickly.
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      04-21-2012 03:54 PM #206
      West Coast Charging Station

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      04-21-2012 04:48 PM #207
      I forgot all about this little strange thing



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      04-21-2012 05:11 PM #208
      Burning coal for electric cars instead of gasoline. Gee golly neato!

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      04-21-2012 05:15 PM #209
      Quote Originally Posted by Eye Candy White View Post
      Burning coal for electric cars instead of gasoline. Gee golly neato!
      Not across the board, kiddo.

      West Coast gets hydro generated electric. And a lot of natural gas power stations are going to be taking over and substituting for coal
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      04-21-2012 05:19 PM #210
      Surely he's heard of solar

      Exhibit A

      Parking Structures abound for potential charging station platforms

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      04-21-2012 05:24 PM #211
      Quote Originally Posted by Eye Candy White View Post
      Burning coal for electric cars instead of gasoline. Gee golly neato!
      Oh this tired old incorrect claim again! Neato! You're wrong, as even if you ran EV's wholly on coal (which you dont in most of the nation), it's around a 60% reduction in emissions.

      Quote Originally Posted by Old post I made last time this came up
      So, the basic math at hand here, assuming nothing but coal power: 250 million cars are on the road in the US, and if they were replaced with EV's with a LEAF sized pack (26 kWh), and they go 2 miles per kWh, and drive 15,000 miles a year, they'll pull 600 billion kWh off the grid. We've seen that each kW of coal sourced electrons is 2 pounts of CO2, so that's 1.2 trillion pounds of CO2 emitted to run the nation of electric cars.

      To run all of our cars, the US used a lot of gas. For instance, in 2011 3.19 Billion barrels of gas were used to run our 250 million cars. Gasoline produces 19.4 pounds of CO2 per gallon burned. 3.19 billion barrels (42 gallons per barrel) times 19.4 pounds of CO2 per gallon is 2.6 trillion pounds of CO2 emitted to run our cars on gas.

      So, worst case, with everything being on coal, it's 1.2 trillion pounds for the EV's, and 2.6 trillion pounds for ICE cars. To be factored in is the fact that we're less than half coal, power plants generally aren't pumping out emissions in dense city centers like cars are, many EV owners run PV on their roofs and are grid independent.
      That's a lot less greenhouse gasses.
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      04-21-2012 06:05 PM #212
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      04-21-2012 08:50 PM #213
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      04-22-2012 09:25 AM #214
      I thought that this was an interesting way of looking into the future.



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      04-22-2012 03:01 PM #215
      Organizers launched Adopt a Charger, a new nonprofit with a mission to install chargers across the country that are free for all to use. The first such charger was unveiled at Crissy Field, part of Golden Gate National Park.
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      04-22-2012 04:53 PM #216
      Fast Chargers in place



      All along the 160-mile piece of I-5, there are charging facilities every 25 miles, which offer the super-fast level-3 chargers and the more common level-2 versions.
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      04-22-2012 09:35 PM #217
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      04-23-2012 09:21 AM #219
      Seeing photos and news like this makes me happy. I may not be an early adopter myself, but I'm glad for all these steps that will eventually make me owning an EV possible.

      for the pioneers

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      05-05-2012 10:54 AM #222
      A little Opel charge up

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      05-05-2012 03:02 PM #223
      Plug in Jeep Patriot.

      Seems like a rather heavy car for this application, but I suppose it works as well as anything.

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      05-05-2012 07:00 PM #224
      Walgreens hosts charging stations according to this article



      The Walgreens pharmacy chain will offer rapid-charging EV stations at 18 Houston-area stores next year, through a partnership with power utility NRG Energy.

      NRG’s eVgo Network(pronounced ee-vee-go), one of the first commercial electric-vehicle-charging networks to launch in the U.S., will initially consist of over 100 charging stations and cost NRG about $10 million in infrastructure investment.

      The eVgo Network will be rolled out in early 2011 throughout Houston and Harris County, Texas, and include two types of facilities, as well as two types of EV charging stations.

      The eVgo network will be an integration of both Level 2 chargers, which generally take four hours to recharge an EV to full capacity, and DC rapid chargers, which can charge an EV in about 30 minutes.
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      05-06-2012 05:36 PM #225


      Wireless charging is actually being considered as viable?

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      It's not hard to tell when a driver is texting. If I can do it while driving a manual, eating a cheeseburger AND loading a shotgun... the average driver, who is admittedly much smarter, and more coordinated than me, should be capable of seeing it too.

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