wow cant wait to see the final product.
in for the dynos
for more companies contributing to the 2.5l society
Originally dubbed Project Mad Rabbit This 2007 Rabbit over the last 2 months has been a fun project that we are really looking forward to. This car was previously an SCCA SSC car which besides the cage meant that it was virtually stock. Over the last 2 months we have slowly been transforming it and trying out different setups. Currently it has the following modifications
We plan on dynoing the current setup and we are hoping for around 220whp which would make it the highest HP NA Rabbit and as soon as we are finished at the dyno we are starting stage 2 of the transformation.
- H&R Front and Rear Swaybars
- BSH Sway Bar End Links
- JC Cross Competition Coilovers
- United Motorsport Short Runner Intake
- Bluewater Performance Stage 1 Flex Fuel Tune
- Eurojet Header
- Eurojet Exhaust
- Full 6 point Race Cage
- Thunderbunny Rear Bumper
- Thunderbunny Side Skirts
- Votex Lower Front Lip
- Bluewater Battery Relocation Kit
- Ported and Polished Head
Stage 2 will consist of
- Integrated Engineering Rods
- JE 8.5:1cr Pistons
- Knife Edged Crankshaft
- Precision 6765 Billet turbine Ball Bearing Turbo
- 3" Downpipe
- Custom Cams
- Bluewater Performance Billet Valve Cover
- Custom Turbo Manifold
- Custom Stainless intercooler Piping
- Treadstone Front Mount Intercooler
- Bora 4 Motion Drivetrain
- Peloquin Diff
- 08 Golf R32 Rear AWD Swap
- Sparco Pro ADV Race Seats
- Sparco 5 Point Harnesses
- Wheels and Tires TBD
Ultimately the goal for this car is to be ready in time to go out to Bonneville in September with our turbo R and then compete in NASA sanctioned racing events and possibly the Eurotuner GP.
We have hp goals of around the 600hp-700hp range and are building it to rev all the way to 10k!! which will make this thing amazing to drive and hear! None of this would be possible without the help of United Motorsport and United Motorsport UK. They are a big sponsor of this project and we are happy to have them along with us. We love the 2.5L engine and feel that there is so much potential for this setup.
Last edited by gabe@bwperformance; 06-20-2011 at 06:43 PM.
No valvetrain work for 10k?
And also, only 220 whp on na?
I'm not bashing, nor its my intention... But I thought with headers and intake mani, 210 was easy with the software... Add to that the e85 and I thought more than 220 was possible. I do understand that you are sying that "at least" 220... But I'd think that "at least" it would be 230whp.. That, if e85 is that good.
On the valvetrain, I have read over and over that after 8k you start to be on the edge... So 10k would def need an upgrade... Also, is the crank pulley needed?? Or this is on the stock pulley???
Lastly, you said 08 r rear... What about the box itself? Dsg? Manual?
What about the crank pulley?? Keeping it stock?
Also, shouldn't the dyno have altitude correction??
So here is my thought. I think once all of these SuperRabbits have been built there should be some sort of competition to nsee who has built the best one. I would love to see the BW Performance Rabbit vs. the Unitronic Rabbit vs. a built C2 Rabbit! Battle of the bunnies anyone?
I'd rather see a company invest money in producing quality products for the market instead of playing a who's got a bigger dick.
If building a insane Rabbit leads to developement in tuning, bolt-ons, internals, cams, etc. Then it is money well spent. Otherwise it is just a show piece.
by doing the showpiece they also do some "research"... such that by reving to 10k, they'll test to what i'd think, the limits of the valvetrain and flow at higher rpms.
with the BIG turbo, they'll test the bottom end, and so on...
I'm gonna go ahead and back C2 by saying that they don't just play the "Look at my large rabbit penis". The parts they make, they sell. The tunes they make, they sell. Every part on their Stage 3 rabbit you can purchase (except the body tidbits from 1552 that have nothing to do with actual performance, like flares and stuff).
Hell, they have a rabbit dedicated as a "test" car to review tunes/etc if you ever have an issue with your setup. It's hard to expect huge things from smaller companies in a market with lots of interest but no commitment. It is nice though to have companies who try their best to get stuff out to us though.
Exactly. This is how new development comes around. If no one ever said, "Hey, I wanna turbocharge my 2.5L," then no one else would have said, "I want to put a BIGGER turo in my 2.5L."
I say let them play. The more they push, the more they will see a need for parts to accomodate that push. And why would you make one-off parts when you can make a bunch and sell them to people like us who will gladly pay for the small advantage those parts may give us.
You won't get anywhere near 10k on stock valvetrain without float. Even with a bigger spring 10k is borderline... Then there is the stock cams...
Gabe, email me- we may have some stuff available in the next few months which may help your cause.
do we have a tester for the upcoming cams?
i believe so
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