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    Thread: 10k Revs of 2.5L Big Turbo AWD Rabbit Madness!

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      08-18-2011 07:42 PM #141
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      Its either or. You can turn it cw and ccw and the left and right hubs rotate either way. Are they helical gears or straight cut.... Like I said its a pipe dream right now, but it was in an audi and the owner wanted to go with a solid rear axle for a drag car, so this is laying around for now. Im going to call UR next week to see if they are in fact helical if So I may have reverse cuts made at a shop in Akron that cuts custom gears.
      I am asking which way the input shaft turns in its normal orientation because that is the only way the the r&p teeth will mesh properly. Spinning it backwards works by hand but with torque applied it WILL sheer the teeth off the gears fast! A shop like you mentioned would likely need to make you a r&p.

      Also, I asked about the viscous coupler because it must disconnect like the haldex or synchro coupling because with 4 motion there is no center diff. Ever see how a dsm drives with a welded center?? Drag strip ONLY use is all I can say. Looking the haldex yields the same results. You wont be able to park or turn in any kind of a tight radius. it will bind and snap / break axles, drive shafts and mounts. Not something you want to drive if your planning on making any turns at all really.

      It looks like that's the way it works and I'd assume they would want the front wheels to disconnect when traction is no issue.

      Not trying to shoot down your "pipe dreams", just genuinly interested in the possiblities of the lambo parts and being realistic about potential downfalls / issues. Outside the box is the way to be
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      08-18-2011 07:55 PM #142
      Quote Originally Posted by akauf View Post
      Ever see how a dsm drives with a welded center??
      Not trying to shoot down your "pipe dreams", just genuinly interested in the possiblities of the lambo parts and being realistic about potential downfalls / issues. Outside the box is the way to be
      A new r&p would be 2k said and done.
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      08-18-2011 08:16 PM #143
      wouldn't it be easier to delete the haldex coupling and make some kind of adapter between the the pinion and the drive shaft



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      08-18-2011 08:26 PM #144
      Quote Originally Posted by EL_3grab View Post
      wouldn't it be easier to delete the haldex coupling and make some kind of adapter between the the pinion and the drive shaft
      Thought about that on the mkv project I was working on too. Problem goes back to the lack of a center diff. See my previous post.

      You can lock the clutch by replacing the worm screw the stepper motor turns in and out with a bolt. This is what regulates the pressure applied to the clutch. Once the haldex pump starts it would take a few seconds to pressurize but after that it would be full lock all the time.

      At that point you can put a switch in to turn the pump on and off but there would a wait for the pressure to drop and build. Again, go for the drag strip, no good for street or road course use.


      Ultimately I decided to wire it like stock and will be getting UM to make some adjustments.

    5. 08-19-2011 01:13 AM #145
      All I can say is wow..... Now all the gears in my head are turning about a potential new setup

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      08-19-2011 07:53 AM #146
      Quote Originally Posted by gabe@bwperformance View Post
      All I can say is wow..... Now all the gears in my head are turning about a potential new setup
      do tell

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      08-19-2011 06:20 PM #147
      yes do tell!

      Also add a long runner manifold to those new ideas Make power all the way to 10k

      Short runner / log style cant do that

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      08-20-2011 01:42 PM #148
      man not having seen this thread before made me realize how long its been since I've popped in here. Definitely keeping my eyes on this and rereading through a few times over the next few days. Planning on snagging another BGP up to build in about a year in preparation for a Precision Billet 6262 ball bearing. AWD conversion will definitely be following behind that shortly.
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      08-20-2011 01:45 PM #149
      Quote Originally Posted by BlackRabbit2point5 View Post
      man not having seen this thread before made me realize how long its been since I've popped in here. Definitely keeping my eyes on this and rereading through a few times over the next few days. Planning on snagging another BGP up to build in about a year in preparation for a Precision Billet 6262 ball bearing. AWD conversion will definitely be following behind that shortly.

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      08-20-2011 01:52 PM #150
      eh not quite, anyone on here who knows me knows this will happen but will take forever
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      08-20-2011 01:53 PM #151
      Quote Originally Posted by BlackRabbit2point5 View Post
      eh not quite, anyone on here who knows me knows this will happen but will take forever
      Don't get upset bud.. Read in the context of the thread it begged for a "CSB"

    12. 08-29-2011 01:51 PM #152
      Small update coming soon. The engine is officially back together and the T4 turbo manifold is complete.

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      08-29-2011 04:51 PM #153
      Does that mean we'll be getting a dyno then soon?
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    14. 08-30-2011 01:14 AM #155
      Just a little tease. Also these will be available for sale very soon. T4 turbo manifolds. it has a V-band flange for MVR 44mm Tial wastegates.




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      08-30-2011 11:59 AM #156
      Hm I like that one. Is there not enough room for a tubular manifold like EJ tried to make? Im just curious as to why every option is log style? NBD just curious
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      08-30-2011 01:18 PM #157
      just waiiting for the final prod, and dynos

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      09-14-2011 09:50 PM #158
      Its been awhile, any updates or numbers yet?
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      09-14-2011 10:51 PM #159
      Quote Originally Posted by gabe@bwperformance View Post
      Eurotuner magazine has asked us to keep things a little on the down low as they want to be able to show the progress in their magazine so I told them I wouldn't update with pics until something comes out from them.

      -AWD swap is done
      -Integrated Engineering has teamed up with us on this project
      -wheels are CCW Classics
      we just have to wait.... as always!

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      09-19-2011 03:55 PM #160
      I know that already but they said they'd get some numbers for the NA setup about a month ago and that time has gone and past. I dont need anymore pics, just want some numbers. If they gotta be hush hush tho then whatever, Ill wait. Im just curious what kinda power it will have NA but Id still like to follow the rest of the build too.
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      09-20-2011 12:54 PM #161
      Quote Originally Posted by tay272 View Post
      I know that already but they said they'd get some numbers for the NA setup about a month ago and that time has gone and past. I dont need anymore pics, just want some numbers. If they gotta be hush hush tho then whatever, Ill wait. Im just curious what kinda power it will have NA but Id still like to follow the rest of the build too.
      Agreed, I want video of this beast though

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      09-20-2011 01:00 PM #162
      guys, we have to wait for the article...

      i am fairly sure that we will be kept on the dark...

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      09-20-2011 01:02 PM #163
      Quote Originally Posted by thygreyt View Post
      guys, we have to wait for the article...

      i am fairly sure that we will be kept on the dark...
      This. Oh and ship me that manifold
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      09-26-2011 10:12 PM #164
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      Hm I like that one. Is there not enough room for a tubular manifold like EJ tried to make? Im just curious as to why every option is log style? NBD just curious
      Guy that made this manifold made a long runner before.

      HE Performance, pics are here: http://www.heperformance.com/customerrides.html


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      Also check out the volvette, there is a video on utube of it running a r1

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      09-26-2011 10:25 PM #165
      Quote Originally Posted by akauf View Post
      Guy that made this manifold made a long runner before.

      HE Performance, pics are here: http://www.heperformance.com/customerrides.html
      Cool, never seen this. Very sexy.

    25. 09-27-2011 11:08 AM #166
      Wow, that turbo mani is sexy!

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      09-27-2011 03:14 PM #167
      Quote Originally Posted by akauf View Post
      Guy that made this manifold made a long runner before.

      HE Performance, pics are here: http://www.heperformance.com/customerrides.html


      07 rabbit, click see more details

      Also check out the volvette, there is a video on utube of it running a r1
      Yea Ive seen that a few years ago... Are you sure HEP made this log runner?
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      09-27-2011 07:07 PM #168
      that mani is Andre's (audi4u)

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      10-02-2011 09:46 AM #169
      Wow crazy bad ass Rabbit
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      10-02-2011 07:53 PM #170
      read this month's eurotuner. there is a lil section where they are writing about the progress of the wabbit.

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      10-02-2011 10:02 PM #171
      I searched yesterday for it but didnt find anything, you got a link at all for that?
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      10-02-2011 10:31 PM #172
      Quote Originally Posted by thygreyt View Post
      read this month's eurotuner. there is a lil section where they are writing about the progress of the wabbit.
      Saw it in there too.

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      10-02-2011 10:35 PM #173
      its on the magazine itself.

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      10-03-2011 05:40 PM #174
      Oh I gotcha, thought they had it on thier site as well.
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    34. 10-16-2011 11:38 AM #175
      A little update for you guys. Hopefully soon here I can unload a ton of pics and videos of the car.




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