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      07-02-2011 02:22 PM #1
      I've been contemplating on yet another project for some time, but looks like I've gotten started already. I basically need a desktop with what I have the mere ability to pick in it, yet try my best to keep it small, packing one big nasty sucker punch.

      What I have acquired thus far:

      -Asus M4A88T-I Deluxe motherboard Link
      -AMD Phenom II x6 1090T 3.2Ghz Link
      -MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II 1280Mb GDDR5 Link
      -Corsair HX650 modular PSU Link
      -Corsair 4Gb SoDIMM DDR3 1333MHz (x2) Not listed

      What I'll be re-using:
      -Corsair H50 liquid cooling - NOT, decided to go all koolance water cooling.
      -Intel 40gb SSD
      -External LG DVD-RW

      I've got a metal cookie box for the case, some leftover hardware from previous projects like pwr/hdd leds, power switch, front audio panel, ...

      I'll be posting pics and progress as this evolves.
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      07-03-2011 09:49 AM #2
      Cool

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      07-11-2011 02:29 AM #3
      Metal cookie box? Sounds awesome. I love wanky computer cases

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      07-19-2011 07:07 PM #4
      lolz, yeah.. about that, I don't think I'll be fitting everything I want in it. The video card alone dwarfs not only the mobo but eveything else!

      So, here are a few parts being delivered, all koolance water cooling ftw:

      PMP-300 pump, 7L/m (should be enough given the tiny setup):




      120mm reservoir tube (60mm diam.):




      pump reservoir base:




      reservoir top cap:




      End result will look something like this (will be setup at a 35deg slant):




      120mm 30fpi single fan radiator:




      120mm 108cfm fan:



      Some numbers for the combination of fan+radiator:




      CPU cooling block:




      GPU cooling block:




      MOSFET cooling block:




      MOSFET heat transfer plate:




      compression fitings (about 10):




      swivel fittings (2 for cpu in and mosfet out, won't be using these between cpu and mosfet):




      socket plugs to replace the reservoir ones and the GPU cooler ones:




      about three feet of ID13OD16 clear tubing:




      and some well deserved juice:



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      I'm still browsing around for some other stuff.

      EMI shielded PCIe flexible riser(I'll need about 15-20cm cable lenght):





      I haven't quite figure out which will o best, it all depends on how I'll be screwing the graphics card and ;other board to the plexi plate. The idea is to have the graphics card's back against the motherboard's back, with thick plexi base plate between the two. I'm looking to get some LED action going on within the plexi plate that will contrast the liquid coolant.

      I've made a couple case designs, all allowing me to play with 3ft of tubing, but I'm stilling scratching my head about the PS placement. Will post those up eventually. Happy scouting.

      p.s. Is it just on my end, or are the pics not showing up?
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      07-22-2011 11:08 PM #5
      Nice build, I'm jealous. I've wanted to try a water cooled setup for years but could never justify spending the extra money.

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      07-25-2011 07:37 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by VisEtVirtus View Post
      Nice build, I'm jealous. I've wanted to try a water cooled setup for years but could never justify spending the extra money.
      Thanks. I'm out with the old money pitt (sig), and in with the new
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      08-08-2011 03:45 PM #7
      Pic update. I got most parts in, just waiting on some tubing and mosfet heat sinks..

















      more to come soon..
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      10-03-2011 03:07 PM #8
      Update:











      Power supply stripped, and affixed to the back of the motherboard.



      I'm still working on cutting out a hole and baseplate for the power cord socket.



      Wires for the 24-pin and 4-pin blocks will be shortened.





      Although only 2 of the modular cables will be used, I'm still making a little fixture for the whole panel just in case.



      Location of reservoir, radiator, and fan.

      1. Reservoir(out) will shoot back in a quarter circle up to radiator(missing nozzle side)
      2. Radiator(nozzle side) shoots down to CPU-in nozzle(left)
      3. CPU-out nozzle(right) shoots to bridge cooling plate IN(left)
      4. Bridge cooling plate OUT(right) heads back to Reservoir

      The reservoir IN nozzle can be twisted closer to the OUT nozzle, I'll eventually do this to avoid pinching the hoses shall they bend too much.





      I've been thinking of slipping the PCIe x16 cable between the graphics card and the slotted aluminum plate across the other side to connect it to the mobo.





      Mock wood panel will be replaced with some of this yellow stuff, and so will a couple other parts of the case.


      Other parts still in the mail:
      PCIe riser cable;
      Dual 2.5" disk swap bay;
      Power Button/LED;
      Random cable blocks (mobo color-matched);
      The damn 13/16 hose, isht seems so hard to find;
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      10-03-2011 03:14 PM #9
      What are you using to cool the PSU?

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      10-04-2011 08:56 AM #10
      I don't know how I just now found this thread!
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      10-04-2011 11:53 AM #11
      Thats a lot of cooling for a 120mm rad. What goes into the empty end of the box? Can you not fit a 240mm rad in one end of the box? I love small form factor with huge power. Cant wait to see the final.
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      10-04-2011 04:32 PM #12
      Lan box?
      I assume that's the reason to have a small portable but gaming powerful PC.
      Are lan parties still popular?

      And how reliable is water cooling?
      One would think water + PC internals could be a serious issue if you have even a tiny leak.
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      10-06-2011 08:06 PM #13
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      10-07-2011 04:09 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      And how reliable is water cooling?
      One would think water + PC internals could be a serious issue if you have even a tiny leak.
      I guess that one good reason for the transparent case!

      Cool build!
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      i'd lock this thread but i have no clue how...

    15. 10-08-2011 07:24 PM #15
      Very cool build(ha puny)! It's weird not seeing a big aluminum block and fan on the CPU.

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      10-10-2011 03:29 PM #16
      How much did those Koolance parts set you back? I've seen some prices on some of their kits and they are a pretty penny.

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      10-25-2011 02:06 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      What are you using to cool the PSU?
      I was going to add more fans, but then after switching-up the layout a couple times I'm settling with a FMIC .

      Quote Originally Posted by Minker17 View Post
      I don't know how I just now found this thread!
      Google "felt like getting dirty" .

      Quote Originally Posted by Power5 View Post
      Thats a lot of cooling for a 120mm rad. What goes into the empty end of the box? Can you not fit a 240mm rad in one end of the box? I love small form factor with huge power. Cant wait to see the final.
      Thanks! Empty end will have a vertically mounted hot-swap drive bay for 2.5" disks. Single rad for now, it is a small setup

      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Lan box?
      I assume that's the reason to have a small portable but gaming powerful PC.
      Are lan parties still popular?

      And how reliable is water cooling?
      One would think water + PC internals could be a serious issue if you have even a tiny leak.
      Never been to a LAN party , but this isn't a LAN box, just a living room curiosity.

      Quote Originally Posted by Mtl-Marc View Post
      Think different.
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      Quote Originally Posted by KahviVW View Post
      I guess that one good reason for the transparent case!

      Cool build!
      Thanks!

      Quote Originally Posted by B95P View Post
      Very cool build(ha puny)! It's weird not seeing a big aluminum block and fan on the CPU.
      Thanks! I know, those damn heatsinks!!

      Quote Originally Posted by Lolasaurus_Rex View Post
      How much did those Koolance parts set you back? I've seen some prices on some of their kits and they are a pretty penny.
      Very pretty indeed! In the end, the whole build will be close to 1.5-2k tools includeed, but those are also a long-term investment for future projects.


      Sorry for lagging on updates, been busy with work and doin' werk. Here are some recent shots, more of the whole so far in a bit:















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      11-01-2011 10:22 PM #18
      More updates of the mock.. cut, bolt-on, mark, unbolt, cut, bolt-on, mark, unbolt, trim, bolt-on, mark, unbolt, trim, bolt-on...... meh.... meeeeh... F-IT, move on to next piece.. cut, bolt-on, mark, unbolt, ............ still working on a couple kinks here and there.


      Here's the best I could do for the power cord and switch without spending too much time trying to figure this part out..








      Here's the plate I reused for the modular cables:





      I wanted the pci-e cable to go between the graphics card and the aluminum plate from side to side, but none of the risers I found were longer than 15cm, so I'll have to make a slit at the bottom of the plexi base plate holding the mobo and psu for the cable to cheat it's way from the mobo to the card.





      Currently working on the "FMIC". Yeah real fugly. I'm playing around with different options, mounted externally or internally, but both radiator and fan will be mounted up front.





      The dual 2.5" hotswap bay drive for the disks will be vertically mounted as close to and perpendicular to the mobo, where the disks are accessible from the top.




      In the mail are the kingwin dual 2.5" holder:


      Power switch (white LED)


      small-friendly molex LED module


      Tailed 5x 3mm UV LED(plexi/case/res lighting, 1x 3mm Red LED(HDD)


      some just-in-caser atx connectors and pins, the pci-e riser cable, and 6 feet of the damn tygon r3603 tube in 1/2"-5/8" or 13cm-16cm. Not that I need all 6 feet, but just in case. I'm skipping tubing coils for now and will see if any kinks occur in the tubing, but so far I should be fine.

      More to come as time permits.

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      11-02-2011 12:05 PM #19
      Looks pretty good. That mesh in front of your Rad is TERRIBLE for air flow. Look into modders mesh or something else. Frozen should have a good selection I thought.
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    20. 11-19-2011 08:40 PM #20
      I think your nuts from trying to cool everything with a single rad, but I do love everything your doing. I don't think anyone has any idea what it take to build a case so to you

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      11-21-2011 08:43 AM #21
      Came here to see new pictures. Dissapoint.
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      11-25-2011 10:51 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Power5 View Post
      Looks pretty good. That mesh in front of your Rad is TERRIBLE for air flow. Look into modders mesh or something else. Frozen should have a good selection I thought.
      Yeah I figured that, and it looks fahking teerrrible anyways. So I'm adapting and changing things around. I found a shop that sells some good stuff, I got a couple 90 deg. nozzles, and might get a couple other things soon..

      Quote Originally Posted by VWGti AudiA4 View Post
      I think your nuts from trying to cool everything with a single rad, but I do love everything your doing. I don't think anyone has any idea what it take to build a case so to you
      Thanks! Yeah the single rad just isn't going to cut it.. so.. new plans

      Quote Originally Posted by Minker17 View Post
      Came here to see new pictures. Dissapoint.
      I doin' work!!







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      11-28-2011 08:59 AM #23
      Man, this is looking great!
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      12-20-2011 10:34 AM #24
      Any updates?
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      12-20-2011 01:18 PM #25
      Yep, taking things apart after all the mock-ups and starting the clean build!

      I've added/replaced a couple cooling parts, went with different size hose (what I had was a little too flexible and would pinch), but I should be done really soon!

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      01-19-2012 04:26 PM #26
      This is now unfortunately on hold until, well, the end result I guess.

      Steady bling every month called, it wants to be BFF again. After job hunting for about 2 months, I've finally found something reasonable and relocated for the time being. Build parts and tools will remain at home, and I'll be working on it once I find some time to go back during weekends.

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      05-28-2012 11:40 AM #27
      Ok folks, so after a couple months of sleeping on a camp bed, I'm told I'll be going back home soon.

      During that time, my tower's cpu bailed on me. It was a Phenom II x4 965 black edition. Symptomes were that at the bios prompt, it could stay on for hours, but once booted into any OS, the screen would go black and all fans would go crazy. I changed the power supply unit, disconnected wireless cards, reset bios settings, nothing. So thankfully my little MSI 770 C45 is AM3, which means I could use the Phenom II x6 1090T I had planned on using in build. I also took the bay SATA slot and the power button and put those on the tower.

      Also, I kept taking the build apart during the little time I had back home on weekends, finding a better way to keep the case volume down to a minimum, and the single rad idea was haunting me. I also realized the Koolance pump was DOA, but **** it, I'm getting another pump anyways.

      So here are new parts in my parts list, all images linked to their respective page:

      New pump/res, according to reviews, pretty quiet, and it's 450lph which I assume is decent for my setup.


      New radiator, 180mm:


      Variable speed 180mm fan:


      Fan grill 180mm:


      CMOS reset button:


      Liquid temp probe, debating on whether to get 1 or 2 of these. Mainly to monitor the in/out diff, but it's pricey (will be red, actual pic NA):


      MOSFET heatsinks:


      Now this butterface part I have mixed feelings about since the SATA drive would stick out. God it's so frustrating because it has every thing I'd want, pwr/rst button, front audio panel, usb ports, 2.5" disk slot, sdcard reader, display, ... dammit! I might get it anyways in case I find a smart way to conceal the disk, and for 40$, it's a damn steal imho:


      I'm still thinking about an air exhaust method. I have the leftover fans from the gpu I could use, have those power by the gpu itself, but I don'y know how well that could work. The + side is that they're ultra thin, and there's two of them. I guess I'll have to keep working on that.

      Stay tuned for more! What follows are a couple pics to keep you happy.









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      06-06-2012 04:28 PM #28
      The expensive parts are ordered! Now onto hardware store browsing for some neat stuff, the case is getting a facelift.
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      06-10-2012 09:44 AM #29
      All said parts came in.



      Can't wait to get my hands on them. I'm having someone bring them over to Paris in a week. Gotta love them US vacationers.
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      06-11-2012 08:53 AM #30
      EXCITED! Remind me what you are using this for and are you at all bummed since a ton of hardware has been upgraded since you started this project?
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      06-11-2012 12:46 PM #31
      Thanks! I'm back home now after a couple months of build withdrawal, so I'll be keeping up the pace this time.

      I was tired of my current tower and needed something challenging to do, trying to keep things as compact as possible with loads of goodies. I crave the problem solving part of the process, and I enjoy building things. It keeps my brain in check. And it's cheaper than the vrt was

      Sold 2 yrs ago, I miss it.

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      06-15-2012 11:46 AM #32
      Got some work done yesterday, just got home and I'm keeping at it almost all weekend, pics to show very soon, no
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      06-17-2012 03:49 PM #33
      So a couple things happened this weekend, but I found some time to do some more work. I got my hand on some plexi and trimmed out pieces of the original casing. I also redid the base plate that was uv yellow to a black plexi (might chage it back to yellow), and also replaced the gpu cover.

      Pics:

























      At the end I cracked the white plexi backplate, so I'll have to redo that during the week. Parts are coming in Tuesday, so more work will get done once I can mock-up everyhting together.

      Stay tuned.
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      06-21-2012 05:54 AM #34
      Last night I got the parts I ordered. Just layed things out and wondered how the heck I'd fit it all together for a second..



      At least now there shouldn't be much holding me back, I was planning on keeping the nozzles for last as I haven't anticipated the tubing yet. I got 4 x 45° elbows for now.

      Can't wait for page 2, all these pics are killing my load time.
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      06-23-2012 09:58 AM #35
      Ok folks, this build is getting dirtier by the minute..





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