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    Thread: 24v Quest for 550+HP experianced oppinions welcomed!

    1. Member .SLEEPYDUB.'s Avatar
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      09-12-2011 05:40 PM #101
      550whp is retarded on a FWD...just save the hassle
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      09-13-2011 12:18 PM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by .SLEEPYDUB. View Post
      550whp is retarded on a FWD...just save the hassle
      why would it be retarted??? sure it wont be a stop light to stop light car but she'll be a beast from 40mph and up, i bought the car for 6,000 mint condition from a freind, with the silverstone gray paint, which i love! and only had 80k miles on it, and its a mk4 love that body style! id be payin twice if not three times that much for a R32, and just so i can have awd? Nah ill invest some power and money into this very inexpensive fwd

      but trust me i do understand where your coming from, theres just no way ill sell what i already own, then pay $17,000 for basically the same car with awd
      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-13-2011 02:08 PM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by joeeveryman87 View Post
      ......but she'll be a beast from 40mph and up.........
      Try closer to the range of 3rd or probably 4th gear before you find traction. With 500+whp you won't be able to get on it in 2nd and maintain traction. And unless you are on some really sticky >235 sized tires 3rd won't be much better.
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      09-13-2011 02:24 PM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by GTIVRon View Post
      Try closer to the range of 3rd or probably 4th gear before you find traction. With 500+whp you won't be able to get on it in 2nd and maintain traction. And unless you are on some really sticky >235 sized tires 3rd won't be much better.
      Yeah it's more like a beast from ~70mph and up.
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      09-13-2011 02:31 PM #105
      Quote Originally Posted by GTIVRon View Post
      Try closer to the range of 3rd or probably 4th gear before you find traction. With 500+whp you won't be able to get on it in 2nd and maintain traction. And unless you are on some really sticky >235 sized tires 3rd won't be much better.
      Never the less, have you all seen TomTom's build thread virtually almost the same goal with the same car i am shooting for, and he loved it and the guy who bought the car from him loves it aswell, no regrets.

      ......but you guys would suggest that i ditch the already paid for car i OWN, that has TT cams, catback exaust, suspension, LW pullies, cold air, boser hood extension, R32 skirts/Modified R32 front bumber with 1 bar rieger grill molded to it, deleted hatchback handle........(taking breath).......so that i can spend 17,000 on a used stock R32......thats just crazy talk guys, im sorry my goal isnt necessarily to be the quickest car from 0-60, this is a hobby, i love this car im just attempting to squeez all i can out of this car, thats where ill get my satisfaction, either way shes gonna be a sexy bitch and is gonna be one fast mofo at speed, thanks guys!

      Now back on topic i need some oppinions on turbos ive heard many different things so far with regaurds to stuff like getting just a full on garret, or getting a precision turbine with a garret hotside??, is there anything that everyone agrees on ...
      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-13-2011 02:48 PM #106
      Nope, nobody is saying go R32, honestly that has it's own set of problems (breaking parts! instead of breaking traction).

      Just making sure your expectations are set correctly, but honestly, you dont NEED 550 whp. You can make that GTI faster than your CBR600 withOUT building the motor. You can have a lot of fun with just a headgasket spacer motor. These motors are so tough it's ridiculous. I have over 80,000 boosted miles on my headgasket spacer'd motor and the problems I am running into now are with the chassis, suspension, bushings, etc. The motor? Perfect.
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      09-13-2011 03:16 PM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by joeeveryman87 View Post
      why would it be retarted??? sure it wont be a stop light to stop light car but she'll be a beast from 40mph and up
      40mph and up? With that kind of power you are looking at not having traction till over 100mph, and thats with a nice drag radial setup. With 600+whp, I wouldnt catch traction at all, in any gear, it was completely pointless. I only drove it like that once, and i never did it again because its pointless.

      I had a big ol response typed up, and I lost it. Just watch this. This is about 400whp. Can you imagine 150whp more?

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      09-13-2011 03:59 PM #108
      Touche' Touche' and WOW! thats 400whp?? thats insane power man i didnt realize thats all you'd need for that performance.......
      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-13-2011 04:28 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by joeeveryman87 View Post
      Touche' Touche' and WOW! thats 400whp?? thats insane power man i didnt realize thats all you'd need for that performance.......
      That's pretty much what we have all been trying to say.
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      09-13-2011 05:20 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by PhReE View Post
      That's pretty much what we have all been trying to say.
      Im sorry i was taking it the wrong way, thought you guys were telling me a fwd car is a waste of time to upgrade, def seeing that video puts some different/cheaper thoughts in the back of my head, thank guys!
      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-13-2011 05:21 PM #111
      Guess you can say im a "visual" learner thanks again
      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-14-2011 05:00 PM #112
      No problem man. Theres not very many good videos out there showcasing what a real street vrt is like. That one puts it into perspective.
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      09-14-2011 05:09 PM #113
      There's a boatload of great info in this thread. Good stuff guys. Subscribed.

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      09-15-2011 09:37 AM #114
      Quote Originally Posted by .SLEEPYDUB. View Post
      No problem man. Theres not very many good videos out there showcasing what a real street vrt is like. That one puts it into perspective.
      So the video def caught my attention and i have a couple questions, what turbo and clutch setup did you go with, what did the spacer drop your compression down to(any issues with it?), and did you install an LSD? or atleast have an oppinion on pelequin or wavetrac LSD perfromance on the O2J tranni......
      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-15-2011 10:18 AM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by joeeveryman87 View Post
      So the video def caught my attention and i have a couple questions, what turbo and clutch setup did you go with, what did the spacer drop your compression down to(any issues with it?), and did you install an LSD? or atleast have an oppinion on pelequin or wavetrac LSD perfromance on the O2J tranni......
      Turbo is T4 35R with a 1.06AR turbine housing.
      No spacer, fully built schimmel block.
      Autotech wavetrac diff, on my 2nd one. Broke the diff, 4th gear, and a bunch of other **** in the tranny all at the same time doing a 4th gear pull on low boost.
      No experience with Peloquin, although ive heard nothing but good things from them.

      O2J? Did you mean O2M?
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      09-15-2011 10:24 AM #116
      Well ive been workin on a few projects in the past couple weeks so i figured id post some pics, ill start with my boser hood extension we welded on and painted last week, turned out pretty good enjoy









      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-15-2011 10:26 AM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by .SLEEPYDUB. View Post
      Turbo is T4 35R with a 1.06AR turbine housing.
      No spacer, fully built schimmel block.
      Autotech wavetrac diff, on my 2nd one. Broke the diff, 4th gear, and a bunch of other **** in the tranny all at the same time doing a 4th gear pull on low boost.
      No experience with Peloquin, although ive heard nothing but good things from them.

      O2J? Did you mean O2M?
      Yes sorry i did mean O2M, so the wavetrac is good then? why did you have such bad tranni issues? is the O2M weak?
      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-15-2011 10:33 AM #118
      And you wonder why the whole front end is pulled off in those??? because i also installed some 264/260 TT cams i got brand new for $500 with a C2 flash









      annnnnnnnd Cams installed....

      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-15-2011 10:41 AM #119
      This is the new hood with the old bumper still on, i bought an aftermarket R32 bumper and a rieger 1bar grill and we plastic "welded" it to the bumper.



      This "custom" bumper was kind of a bitch but we finally got it and primed it last night, check it out.....



      and finally me rockin the new roof rack with my kayak , also its hard to see but you can see that we all shaved the handle off the hatch and i installed a popper left the emblem though still gotta rep you know!?!

      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-15-2011 03:16 PM #120
      I liked the wavetrac, just didnt like that it broke on me...when just using 4th gear, but hey **** happens
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      09-20-2011 06:12 PM #121
      Yeah man, that's sick. I thought near 300 was fun but VRT is the champ-
      Nice drivin.........
      You convinced me, over 400 HP is just a waste w/ these cars.....but fun nonetheless (Gee officer, I wasn't out of 4rth yet, can I catch a break?).
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      09-22-2011 07:44 AM #122
      Quote Originally Posted by joeeveryman87 View Post
      Yes sorry i did mean O2M, so the wavetrac is good then? why did you have such bad tranni issues? is the O2M weak?
      You saw the video right?
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      09-22-2011 01:18 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by BakBer View Post
      You saw the video right?
      yesssss......
      ..."understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car"...

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      09-23-2011 12:45 PM #124
      It should be obvious then. Catching traction suddenly while your tires are spinning in excess of 100mph, just isnt good for gears...
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      09-23-2011 05:15 PM #125
      To be completely honest, I've learned that the VR6 is a hell of a motor for boosting. The rest of the car sucks total ass. Transmission isn't built for much power. Yet to find a mount that somebody hasn't broken or don't have to replace with practically every oil change (the design behind the mounts are just not meant to take the abuse). The chassis sucks, heavy and sloppy.

      I get you like the car... It's just a very crappy platform to build a monster from. Do a search for VRT's and check all the "for sale" threads. People do it, learn FWD sucks for power/learn the car just can't handle it, and then go for a platform that can sustain the power goals they have.

      I really like VW, and will more than likely always have one on my drive way (Buying a MK6 4dr Golf TDI soon), but I'm sad to admit I don't think there will ever be a quality platform for high power under the VW badge. That's why I'll be selling my car after I get my DD, and be buying domestic V8 for a project/weekend warrior.
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