20% gloss black
I'd suggest if you're gonna do business with Tom, only do it in person, the pictures don't show the multiple flaws that were in my barrels. I shipped my barrels to Tom based on the pics he's posted but I'd say my barrels are about 85-90% of what they should be.
Point being, he's going to post the pretty pictures and not show you the flaws. If you ship them like i did, it was $160 just in shipping costs, which i was fine with until i opened the box to see stuff he didn't post before shipping them back to me.
The clear is rough in some spots, there are the weird ghost spots that i posted above, and i've been warned that the tires may or may not seal based on where he taped them off, so i won't speculate more than that til the tires are mounted.
I sent Tom my wheels around Jun 21, I didn't get them back until the first week of August so keep that in mind, apparently my wheels were slotted in after putting an air suspension on someone's 20th.
This is similar to the Meister situation out in the PNW. Realize you're paying professional prices and maybe not going to get professional service time, quality etc.
My advice, deal with a shop locally, and who runs a professional operation. While Tom's work at times is excellent, sometimes it's not in my experience. He's charging professional rates and may or may not deliver professional results.
Oh and Tom if you wanna answer my question about the above spots, please post up, I'd appreciate an explanation.
Last edited by Righteous Bucks; 08-22-2011 at 06:13 PM.
Just stopping by to show you some of Tom's work.
The teal BBS LM's were mine that you previously saw posted.
It was a pleasure to work with Tom, wheels where in his possession for about 2/3 weeks and they came out great. I brought him the wheels right before i went on vacation and i told him to please have these done before Waterfest and that's exactly what he did. I had the wheels in my possession right in time to mount tires and go to the show. I recommend Tom to anyone who needs work done, i'll be going back to color match my valve cover as soon as it comes in
My input for what it's worth..
The part you are complaining about will NEVER bee seen. I've seen many shops where they hang the wheel by a chain or strap around the barrel leaving a bare metal spot. It happens. Its not seen and won't affect the quality of the powder on the rest of the wheel. When I load mine into the oven I have to place my hand on the barrel (the part you pictured) and it leaves a hand print on the wheel, it can't be avoided in my situation.
As far as it being rough in spots, if it's not on the inside of the barrel (the part you see through the face) I wouldn't even be worried about it. Even if it was I probably still wouldn't say anything because who is going to be looking at the inside of the barrel anyways? I do my best and give 100% every time I powder coat something for someone but there are just some things that can NOT be helped. This is also the reason I refuse to do certain custom jobs because I am to picky about how things turn out and if it wasn't up to what I would want to put on my car or pay someone for then I would be sitting there for days/weeks/months trying to get them absolutely perfect which may never happen. If I were a machine yes, but as a human being, its not something that is guaranteed.
Tom, when you getting your new stuff? Im jealous Hopefully in a couple months it's time for the bigger oven. I've had to turn away a bunch of stuff lately and it sucks.
If you're charging professional rates, professional results expected. For him to post all the pretty stuff and just ignore that his work isn't as pretty as the pictures is fraud IMO. When i got the barrels i realized why he put his hand in the pic he posted, to block the imperfections.
I don't really care if it's the part you see or not, the bottom line is, i spent a **** load of money and waited 7 weeks for the barrels. Not saying a word thinking "well the quality should be worth the wait"......well now we know it wasn't. I'm glad you don't mind if i received less than professional quality for professional rates.
I know i know, i'm the ******* for having a problem with it.
Just don't be shocked if you ship him parts and they don't come back for almost 2 months in less than acceptable quality.
I do powder coating, I worked in a powder shop......I have NEVER EVER had 1 person complain to me about how the part covered by the tire looked and I have done about 30-/+ sets of wheels now. If there was something wrong (like my hand prints I leave on mine) THEY say "Who cares its covered by a tire, it doesn't affect the quality of the powder"
I dont know why you didnt just have a local person do it. They would have laughed in your face if you brought them back to have them fix that.
First off the one with the marks was not even the same one as the one in the photo. I have never had any problems with other people obviously. I should have just turned down the job to begin with when I was told "yeah I had them done locally but they aren't perfect and not clear coated. You are too anal, it's a barrel! You don't even see it, I told you before you even sent them that powder is not always perfect and to just leave it how it was since it was a barrel. About the wait time, yes you are right i did have them a very long time. Anyways I'm not looking to argue, I have plenty of people that will vouch that I do good work... Have a nice day!
Last edited by tomespo; 09-18-2011 at 03:35 AM.