I think I royally screwed this up. Hoping my starter is still ok...
So I guess it goes Battery--->Stater Solenoid---->Alternator, and the alternator connection goes on the same stud as the solenoid. Correct?
Sounds like the motor is locked up.. have you tried turning it over by hand. Perhaps you timed it wrong while installing chains.
Also - someone needs to take the spray paint away from you. it looks totally half assed. Especially doing things like not removing sending units from oil filter housing and just painting them or trying to paint a plastic valve cover with bolts and everything still inserted....
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In regards to the motor, I don't think the timing is the issue, especially if I connected the stater up wrong, so I'm trying to figure out the correct way before I go out and try it again.
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Ok so I corrected the wiring from what I understand to be the correct way. Positive connection + alternator connection is on the starter solenoid. Battery negative is on the ground stud on the starter.
Same results, loud 'CLACK" and smoke from the starter. Looks like some of it broke off near the solenoid (plastic?) and it's like green on the inside...
Is it possible that I fried the starter when I had it wired wrong? First I had the alternator hooked up to the negative connection..
ground from the battery goes to the one trans bolt with a small bolt on it, not the starter. No negative goes to the starter.
This is the negative
Postive + alternator connections on solenoid.
I literally just replaced my starter afew weeks ago .... The only battery wire going to the starter besides the plug in connection is the positive lead offa the battery ... There was some other wire under the same nut but it didnt come offa the battery ... Not real sure where it went to really but it wasnt the battery negative
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KAY so I went out to try and make a video of what was happening, but now it won't even crank
I think I ****ed my starter up when it was wired wrong....even though it still did the same thing when I corrected the wiring, now I hear one click and then nothing...BAH
I think my starter took a ****, just wish someone could tell me WHY it cranked fine when it was leaking gas, then went to a crank CLACK *smoke* stage, and now nothing. All I hear is one click when I turn the key..
Guess I'm on the hunt for another starter...
If anything leaked on the starter it may have been some residual fluid left in the power steering pump that made it's way to under the battery tray from my attempts at turning the motor (obv the power steering pump was turning since the motor was cranking) my power steering reservoir is not hooked up and the starter is right below the return line.
Maybe some fluid leaked down and caused a short? Nothing looked wet, but then again that may explain the smoke if it immediately burned up.
Sourcing another starter because I guess mine is done. I'll update when it comes in the mail to see if I have any luck. Goal for this winter break was to get it back on the road, which didn't happen due to unforseen issues.
Keeping my head up, I'll start this car if I have to push it to 88MPH and let a lightning bolt hit it
Keeping my head up, I'll start this car if I have to push it to 88MPH and let a lightning bolt hit it [/QUOTE]
Bump . Thats the spirit Evan lightning bolt
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Just sat here for a few hours reading through this whole thread. It's a good story with highs and lows, good writing, good subject matter, and the reader can picture himself being in your shoes going through the same things. Hope you get the starter issue figured out. I'd clean it, install it and make sure it solves your issue before painting it. Great job on the thread- you're actually doing work. Not like the other so-called "build" threads.
It might have been addressed earlier but why didn't you rebuild the black one instead of the red one? Had you had already done the bodywork on the red one before you brother sold you the other one?
Def not painting it until I know it fixes my no-start problem.
The red one was my first car, and I bought it when my brother still owned the black one. My car had a nice set of rust issues, needed to have a good deal of the motor taken care of (timing chains, various gaskets, blahblah).
My brother then blew the headgasket on his motor and paid a shop to rebuild the head, new headgasket, thermostat housing, all that good stuff, which cost him alot of $$ because he needed the car ASAP for his new job. Recently after that he told me his car veered off to the right and made a 'CLUNK" noise. He was fed up with fixing it, told him I'd buy it from him, he said ok.
SO, $900 later I had an awesome GTI with alot of work done and all it needed was a new control arm. I had a spare from my red car and threw it on. This became my daily.
That was when I had the bodywork done on the red car and started taking it apart. Black car had more rust than my red one, so I was beyond saving it, I was just making it last until I got the red one going, but alas, alternator went and spun bearing.
At that point I was fed up with it, parted some stuff out but then wanted it out of my driveway. Sold it as a parts car, and here I am trying to get mine going
My original plan was to buy the car, and take the motor from the black one and put it in the red one since it was all rebuilt. Everything happens for a reason I guess, because that motor turned out to be a ticking time bomb and now I have my dream turbo vr sitting in my garage.
Replacement starter on, more problems.
I took this pic when I removed the starter, the teeth look weird like something was rubbing on the outer side of them?? The flywheel is used but I don't remember this...maybe I'm paranoid..
1st attempt with replacement starter and fully charged battery - same thing. It would crank, so much that I was so excited it was about to turn over and CLACK, just stopped.
2nd attempt with replacement starter and fully charged battery - nothing, just a click and nothing happened.
3rd attempt with replacement starter and full charged battery - click and then the starter just spins, no crank.
WHAT. THE. MOTHER. ****. IS. GOING. ON.
It is my understanding that the starter can only be installed one way, aka it will only sit flush if the teeth line up with the starter. So I don't think I did anything wrong. I just want to know what's wrong so I can move on with my life.
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