Resurrection of the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!

[ThatA4T]

Huge thanks to Jeff for coming by to weld up my doors today!

[jaystone]

so turbonetics does not rebuild standard shaft turbos anymore. called a couple places they recommended (Mikes Turbo and Tims Turbo) and also tried contacting Precision Turbo but called too late. Hope to ship the center section out this week.

[JettaGLXdriver]

I paid a place in New Mexico to rebuild that turbo once too. I told myself if it failed again I was just going to buy another turbo and get rid of that one. Sucks to see that.

[BarryV]

so turbonetics does not rebuild standard shaft turbos anymore. called a couple places they recommended (Mikes Turbo and Tims Turbo) and also tried contacting Precision Turbo but called too late. Hope to ship the center section out this week.

There is a shop in COS with a pretty good turn around time. When I sent mine to them, two of the bolts broke off in the exhaust flange, and they told me it'd be cheaper to buy a new turbo, since 5 bolt flanges were not common anymore.


Forgot the name - hit up greggearhead - I am sure he will know who I am talking about

[jaystone]

a new turbo is definitely an option, I'll have to find out how much it would cost to rebuild this one. I really don't wanna have to redo the charge plumbing and exhaust.

[golf3737]

You are really taking your time on this one, eh?

[jaystone]

Yep. Anything worth doing, is worth doing right. Besides, no way in hell would it pass emissions blowing smoke.

I'm going to ship the turbo to Precision Turbo upon the recommendation of a good friend and coworker who knows a thing or two about turbos (Bill Willoughby, formerly of PFI Speed who ran a 10.63 at 135 at Bandimere with a street legal 1992 Civic hatch turbo in 2004).

I disassembled it today and took a look at the guts. There was a bit of oil coke buildup behind the hot side wheel shroud. I cleaned it up a bit. Also looked at the compressor side, and saw a little scoring where the thrust collar was rubbing against the back plate. Hopefully neither of those things prevent it from being rebuildable.

[JettaGLXdriver]

Good luck. I'm eager to see it on the road again. I've not been this excited about a VW in like 5 years.

[jaystone]

I am just happy to be so damn close. It is funny to me to think I nearly rushed it all together to try and get it running before Halloween last year Always takes longer than expected I guess.

[JakkoVR]

SO much motivation in this thread!

[ThatA4T]

I am just happy to be so damn close. It is funny to me to think I nearly rushed it all together to try and get it running before Halloween last year Always takes longer than expected I guess.

I'm scared for that with my car, but I have plenty of time to get it perfect. I'm in no hurry.

[jaystone]

I'm scared for that with my car, but I have plenty of time to get it perfect. I'm in no hurry.

Don't let yourself get overwhelmed. One task at a time...maybe two. Keep the end result in mind, but don't rush it, you'll only regret cutting corners. I am by my own admittance an impatient person. This project has been a valuable lesson to me on many occasions. It will get done, but never in as little time as you think. Things will go wrong 2 times out of 3, but don't let it get to you. Stay persistent; however if you get frustrated or burned out, STOP. Take a day or three off. Come back to it later. You'll be happier in the end. Besides, that's what this is all about right? FUN?!?

[ThatA4T]

Don't let yourself get overwhelmed. One task at a time...maybe two. Keep the end result in mind, but don't rush it, you'll only regret cutting corners. I am by my own admittance an impatient person. This project has been a valuable lesson to me on many occasions. It will get done, but never in as little time as you think. Things will go wrong 2 times out of 3, but don't let it get to you. Stay persistent; however if you get frustrated or burned out, STOP. Take a day or three off. Come back to it later. You'll be happier in the end. Besides, that's what this is all about right? FUN?!?

Very true! Great words of wisdom Jeff once the body work is done and I get this damn thing painted ill finally be at ease again and the reinstall can keep me going. Although, that's when I know ill run into the most problems. That and trying to stuff a Vr in a b5 bay haha

[coneklr]

Hey you going to bring this over to Hardeys Saturday?

[jaystone]

can't...turbo is on it's way to get rebuilt.

[ThatA4T]

can't...turbo is on it's way to get rebuilt.

U sent it out!?

[jaystone]

U sent it out!?

yep. this is one best left to a pro.

[golf3737]

I am just happy to be so damn close. It is funny to me to think I nearly rushed it all together to try and get it running before Halloween last year Always takes longer than expected I guess.

So True! I remember when I was over there and you were just ranting and raving about getting it out! It's all good man. Once it hits the streets it will be beautiful. No need for any rushing anymore

[ThatA4T]

yep. this is one best left to a pro.

Good choice. Haha I agree. Rather have someone else's name on it if something goes wrong.

[jaystone]

yep. besides, balancing a turbo is not a DIY job.

[illalwaysbefasterthanyou]

cant wait to see this! good work mang

[jaystone]

No progress on the car this weekend. Had a lot of other stuff going on. Performed a frame notch on a mk6 Golf TDI, shaved some mk4 fenders, welded up an autotech aluminum strut bar, welded on a TIAL blow off valve for white wide, and welded a radiator cap onto an aluminum expansion tank for a friends 240z. Not to mention a quick valet job Friday night and a 6 hour stint playing bicycle mechanic today at the old bicycle shop service department I used to run.

So much for a weekend, back to playing sparky this week.

Anxiously awaiting a call from Precision Turbo about my center section.

[coneklr]

Bump for Captain Morgain over here! Thanks again man!!!

[jaystone]

I am currently less than impressed with the communication from Precision Turbo.

I contacted them on 4/30/12 via email to see if they repaired standard shaft Turbonetics turbos.

I was told that yes they do, and I needed to call them for an RGA number; which I did. I sent them the turbo with the RGA number on 5/2. It was received by them on 5/7. I expected to wait a little while before being contacted by them as indicated in their previous correspondence. On 5/14 I sent an email to them asking if they had an opportunity to look at my turbo. I did not receive a response. I called today to ask again what was going on. First they couldn't find my RGA number (which they issued to me) or any record under my name; second I was told that I needed to submit an RGA form which was available on their website otherwise my turbo would just sit and collect dust at their shop.

Effing brilliant communication. I was told to get an RGA #, I was told where to send it, but never told about the RGA form until now. It took multiple emails and phone calls with 3 different people before I got a somewhat straight answer.

Just a little frustrated right now. Sorry for the rant. Still crossing my fingers that it is rebuildable.

[jaystone]

I am done with Precision. I have requested that they return my turbo at their earliest convenience.

This was my last email to them and their response (in bold). Maybe I am old fashioned, but this is a business correspondence and there should be a little more formality to it than simply a one line response. I have worked in customer service in the past and this is beyond a joke. I understand I may have not included the complete detailed information they needed to perform any work, but seeing as that information was not requested initially, I feel that the blame is NOT all mine.

From: Johanna Justine
To: Jeff Stone
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Precision Turbo Contact Form]: General Questions

We would have responded if we knew where it came from...the # on the label was a fax #......thanks

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Stone wrote:

Justin/Johanna;

I just got off the phone with Pete after calling to check on the center section I sent you to inspect and advise about rebuilding. He indicated I need to send in the attached RGA form otherwise my turbo will just sit at your shop.

I had emailed Justin last week about my turbo and received no response (message text below). I would have appreciated a response at that time indicating that you did not have the proper paperwork to proceed.

When I originally contacted you about rebuilding the turbo, I was told to call and get an RGA number and to send it in which I did; I was not told about completing and submitting the form attached. Please contact me when you have a chance to inspect the turbo and let me know if it is rebuildable, and if so what that service would cost.

Please contact me if there are any questions or if I have somehow missed any other forms or paperwork you require.

Jeff Stone
*cell phone number deleted for privacy*

[Beitz DUB]

Damn son time to put your big boy pants on, buy a turbo and drive that sucka!

[jaystone]

Pretty much. Will have to order one after I return from Vacation.

[coneklr]

What turbo will you go with? Want to see this in person soooo bad!

[jaystone]

just a new T04B, nothing crazy. I don't want to have to redo any of the charge plumbing, intake, or downpipe. Just bolt it up and go with minimal tuning.

[bbs-dub]

What is the colour on this man?? or do you have a colour code for it??

[jaystone]

It is a GM (Chevrolet) color called Tangier Orange.
GM paint code WA9417
Ditzler PPG paint code 4312
Dupont paint code B9045
Sherwin Williams paint code 43349

[jaystone]

Alright, so it's been a while. Summer vacation, work, and more than a little brain damage with trying to get the turbo rebuilt has led me to the conclusion that replacing the damn thing is the best way to go.

So, barring any hiccups, I'll be ordering a new T04B super H from Turbonetics in the next day or two. I know there are other turbo's out there that are better, but better is not what I'm after. Remove and replace is what I'm going for. Minimal tuning is what I'm going for.

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

ATP apparently sold their stage 2 VR6 turbo kit with 3 or 4 different turbos around 2003 when the kit that is installed on this car was originally purchased. After getting my center section back from Precision, I sat down with a pair of micrometers and the website here http://74.208.101.201/forum/tech-sup....html#post5821 along with the Turbonetics catalog. Best I could tell, the turbo I have is a T04B Super H with a 62mm turbine and a .63 A/R on center housing.





I am also trying to get in touch with the folks at Leatherique to find out approximately how much product I would need to redye the leather I have (doorpanels and seats). I'm debating whether or not I should wait till winter to send off the steering wheel to have it re-wrapped to match the shift knob and parking brake boot. Honestly, I'm pretty much thinking the same for the rest of the interior...wait till winter or mess with it now? I'll probably wait a bit. Turbo is going to be a little pricey, but at least I'll be able to do something fun with the old one

[golf3737]

awesome!

[ThatA4T]

I wanna be there if u do this!

[jaystone]

the turbo jet engine thing is a matter of when...not if

As for the car, I got the Leatherique restoration kit in yesterday. Did the front seats this morning, will need to do a second coat after it cures. Hot as hell in the garage even with the fan on and it's not even 11 in the morning. Done out there for today.

Finally got the answers I needed from Turbonetics about ordering a turbo; will be shelling out some cash early next week for a new snail. I'm hoping this is the last big ticket part I need for a while.