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    Thread: 2012 Mileage Figures

    1. 07-18-2011 08:21 AM #1
      Does anyone have any idea on what confirmed EPA mileage may be for the 2012 Tiggy? VW estimates 29 on a front wheel drive but this is still waiting to be confirmed. I'm ready to put a deposit down on a 2012 SEL 4motion and was really hoping for 27ish.

      Most reviews say the 6 speed auto has been modified for 2012 but VW's chat representatives say it's a carryover from 2011.

      $4.35 a gallon for premium in Chicago kinda sucks so I'm hoping VW comes through on their claims!

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      07-18-2011 08:53 AM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by The Analog Kid View Post
      Does anyone have any idea on what confirmed EPA mileage may be for the 2012 Tiggy? VW estimates 29 on a front wheel drive but this is still waiting to be confirmed. I'm ready to put a deposit down on a 2012 SEL 4motion and was really hoping for 27ish.

      Most reviews say the 6 speed auto has been modified for 2012 but VW's chat representatives say it's a carryover from 2011.

      $4.35 a gallon for premium in Chicago kinda sucks so I'm hoping VW comes through on their claims!
      My 2010 averages about 21 mpg combined city/highway driving (11.2 L per 100 km), and it should be similar to the 2011 in most regards.

      As nice as 27 mpg sounds, I don't see that with the 6 speed auto/ 4motion/ 2.0T combo unless most of your driving is highway and you are able to "keep your foot out of it" most of the time...I hear doing a chip (like APR) improves fuel economy, but they are still cracking some of the '11 ECUs and I suspect it will be a little while for the '12 models once they are launched.

    3. 07-18-2011 09:32 AM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by The Analog Kid View Post
      Does anyone have any idea on what confirmed EPA mileage may be for the 2012 Tiggy? VW estimates 29 on a front wheel drive but this is still waiting to be confirmed. I'm ready to put a deposit down on a 2012 SEL 4motion and was really hoping for 27ish.

      Most reviews say the 6 speed auto has been modified for 2012 but VW's chat representatives say it's a carryover from 2011.

      $4.35 a gallon for premium in Chicago kinda sucks so I'm hoping VW comes through on their claims!
      From everything that has been written and said, you would have to assume it would be 27/28 hwy. for the 4Motion models at this point. The fuel economy on the FWD and 4Motion models seem to be pretty comparable on the Tigs so far, I don't see why that would change.

    4. 07-18-2011 03:51 PM #4
      Our 2011 2.0T/4Motion gets somewhere between 18 and 20, and 20 on a good day. This is far less than what we expected, I chose the Tiguan because of the mileage. don't get me wrong, I like it, but with 18/20 mpg, I may have considered something a little bit bigger. The Honda Pilot has the same mileage and its packing a V6 with a ton more cabin room.

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      07-18-2011 10:49 PM #5
      2009 4motion with ave 25 mpg in mixed highway heavy driving - say ave 45 mph. I tend to have a light foot and you can expect 20 - 23 with more city focus.

    6. 07-29-2011 11:43 PM #6
      Here's a bit of good news! The EPA mileage figures are in. The 4motion six speed auto is up to 21/27.

      http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/31614.shtml

    7. 07-29-2011 11:53 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by The Analog Kid View Post
      Here's a bit of good news! The EPA mileage figures are in. The 4motion six speed auto is up to 21/27.

      http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/31614.shtml
      Not bad if that's true.

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      07-30-2011 12:03 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by The Analog Kid View Post
      Here's a bit of good news! The EPA mileage figures are in. The 4motion six speed auto is up to 21/27.

      http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/31614.shtml
      I suspect those numbers are optimistic, similar to EPA figures for most other vehicles, and won't reflect real-world usage...but I can cross my fingers .

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      08-02-2011 07:23 PM #9
      We have an 09 2.0T SEL 4Motion I get a combined 21+ combined driving at moderate speeds. Staight hiway is around 26+. I'm happy with the mileage on regular gas.
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      08-03-2011 01:58 AM #10
      I've been getting 24 hwy w/a lil urban. I have APR 6M, driving 75-85. I go faster downhill and slower uphill. I bottom out at 21, urban errands...I generally hammer it. I eeked out 26 a few times, at about 70 on long flat roads like NJTP.

      No complaints, identical mpg to the slow B-Series CRV the wife had.

      btw- the only person who should run 87 in any car is a sr citizen or total putz. Every engine I know runs better on at least 89, which will provide max timing advance, even under load.

      My APR Flash is stock, 91, 93 and 100. It is VERY sensitive to gas grade and Top-Tier does help. I use a shot of 2Cycle oil in my gas too, 500:1. imo, if getting one programme, 91 is the way to go. You can run 89-93 on it.

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      08-03-2011 07:27 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Super Hans View Post
      I've been getting 24 hwy w/a lil urban. I have APR 6M, driving btw- the only person who should run 87 in any car is a sr citizen or total putz. Every engine I know runs better on at least 89, which will provide max timing advance, even under load.
      I've had two VW dealers and one VW specialist shop all tell me that 87 is perfectly fine if peak performance is not a goal and for me it isn't. I've owned three (3) GTI's so my days of hammering it a lot are over. I'm much more interested in normal driving, handling and comfort. And with driving in excess of 50k on two cars the cost of gas is a huge issue.

      I've put 200K on four (4) turbo's (one 1.8T and three 2.OT) using 87 with nary a problem.

      Your driving needs seem to be different and I respect that but don't knock someone who has a different priorities.
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      08-03-2011 11:21 AM #12
      Discussed on this forum before is the rationale that if you see a decline in fuel economy of say 10% by running 87 octane, vs. the recommended 91 octane minimum that costs only 5% more, then the point is not that the car will not run on 87 but that it's actually costing you more overall.

      I've not tried it myself but have you done a fuel economy comparison 87 vs 91, just curious.
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      08-03-2011 12:53 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Bevmo View Post
      Discussed on this forum before is the rationale that if you see a decline in fuel economy of say 10% by running 87 octane, vs. the recommended 91 octane minimum that costs only 5% more, then the point is not that the car will not run on 87 but that it's actually costing you more overall.

      I've not tried it myself but have you done a fuel economy comparison 87 vs 91, just curious.
      Tried the premium for 90 days and it gave us a boost from 28.1 on average to 28.4. And frankly I couldn't detect one iota of better performance.

      But hey that's me. My situation and driving might be quite different that others. The person driving the car and paying for the gas should make that decision.
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      08-03-2011 12:55 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by JayDubIII View Post
      Tried the premium for 90 days and it gave us a boost from 28.1 on average to 28.4. And frankly I couldn't detect one iota of better performance.

      But hey that's me. My situation and driving might be quite different that others. The person driving the car and paying for the gas should make that decision.
      Forgot to mention that was on the 08 Eos 2.0T.
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      08-04-2011 12:11 AM #15
      Check your timing data logs and get back to me.

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      08-23-2011 11:32 AM #16
      Im going to bring this back up as my fiance is looking at picking up a '10 Tig 4motion auto. Its got less than 10k miles on it so its basically new. She is looking to get a little more luggage room than her MKV Jetta gives her. Looking at Fuelly, mileage figures are around 24 mpg combined. Is that pretty accurate?

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      08-23-2011 12:15 PM #17
      In my experience, yes the EPA combined is close enough to what I see, 50% 50% mix of urban and freeway driving. IE it goes down to 16/18 and up to 28/30 at the extremes, but averages out to the EPA figures.

    18. 08-24-2011 01:26 PM #18
      I don't know how you folks are getting such low MPGs.
      I only run mine (09 tig, >23k miles) on 93 octane and I get around 24mpg constantly city/urban. I can get it up to 28mpg if I drive carefully (Costing and taking it easy on the accelerator. I also use the manual mode to short shift a bit).
      All highway the tig can easily creep up to 29mpg at 70-75mph.

      If you are only getting 18-19mpg you must be sitting in a boatload of bumber-to-bumber traffic.

      It all depends on how you drive.

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      08-24-2011 02:11 PM #19
      Perhaps ypu all should start posting if u are 4motion or fwd. Pointless otherwise.

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      08-24-2011 03:17 PM #20
      Agree, plus there are a many many factors affecting fuel economy, I don't even know them all but I think of speed, altitude, temperature, wind, hills, tire compound and inflation, driving style, fuel octane, manual vs automatic, fwd vs awd, mix of traffic and road type.

      Every one here will get different fuel economy figures, but I think the question is how close is the average experience of the population to the US EPA figures. I don't think one should buy a car rated at 20/21mpg combined and expect to get 30mpg. If you can squeeze it for more than just isolated stretches of freeway, ok good for you, but what's the likelihood others can too ?

      http://www.fueleconomy.gov/ EPA and some real world figures.

      2010 AWD Auto
      http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/compx...Field=Findacar

      2010 FWD Manual
      http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2008c...f.jsp?id=28783

      2010 FWD Auto
      http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2008c...f.jsp?id=28784

      But nothing above is going to capture in detail all of the factors in why and how the driver got what they got.
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      08-24-2011 08:42 PM #21
      I averaged 29 MPG over 50 miles of highway driving in my 2012 Tiguan SE FWD. Haven't quite driven it enough in the city to get accurate MPG.
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      08-29-2011 05:53 PM #22
      my fiance just bought an 09 tiguan se fwd with 34k miles on it and she has filled it up once and had it for a week maybe a little more. I was told by the dealer that running 89 in it is perfect because our 89 is 91 in europe? not sure just what I was told but we filled it with 93 the first time and splitting the city and highway driving about 40% city and 60% highway we got an average of about 25 mpg and if we went all highway I could easily say about 27 maybe 28 mpg. Havent run 89 or less in it yet but we definitely will and I can see what the difference is but so far I am very impressed with the car overall and the fuel economy for being an suv awd or not.

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      08-29-2011 06:05 PM #23
      Regular unleaded gasoline in EU is 95 RON equivalent to 90-91 AKI in the US, ie you don't need to think of having to put in special 'higher grade' fuel in the car's homeland. 91 is the recommended minimum in US as per the sticker in the gas cap. In theory you should get slightly better fuel economy with 93 than 91.
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      08-29-2011 06:11 PM #24
      Once again misinformation by a moron dealer. Open the gas door and look at the sticker. It says 91. And it says that because the sticker is region specific. In other words North American vehicles get a North American sticker, Europe gets their own. If VW wanted us to use 89, they would have said so. As you reduce octane, you reduce power and you will end up stepping on the pedal that much more. the saving is cost at the pump will be offset by using more. And that is if the engine does not throw a check engine light. some engines don't mind low octane, some really have a hard time with it.

      Just do yourself a favour and use 91 octane min.

      and on fuel mileage, give it some time, like 15, 000 miles. VW has very tight transmissions that take forever to break in.

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      08-31-2011 12:21 PM #25
      All this talk about paying for premium vs regular kills me when the logic is not wanting to pay extra for premium even though the manufacturer says so. It is not that much more money per year. Say you drive 15000 miles per year and average 22 mpg the difference is only about $200 per year/$17 per month/$4 per week. 15000/22*$4(regular)=$2730 vs 15000/22*$4.30(premium)=$2930. How is that a good rationale for going against the manufacturers recommended gas? If you are too cheap to pay that little bit extra then go buy a CRV! Sorry just a little rant of mine.
      Last edited by breich; 08-31-2011 at 12:24 PM.

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      09-01-2011 01:03 AM #26
      89 is fine in a stock turbo for a modest driver, try to use TopTier. 89 is also fine in a NA engine driven hard, it'll keep the ECU from retarding timing. My APR manual 6sp is very sensitive to fuel octane. I only use 89 road tripping, away from home it's hard to find a good deal on super, plus you don't need 91 or 93 to to attain the 20 horsepower needed to cruise on the highway.


      I get 24 adv, 26 if I baby it.

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