^^well said of both you dudes.
What do you ever meen.
Let's see. Here's the one from regional PNW
Considering the PNW area is the biggest area "most post of all forums" in the use. "Where in from". I'm not sure your statement is very correct really. Over 100 pages . WOW. That's a lot.
I think they are luck. We had 27 whole pages...
Last edited by LooseNuts; 07-23-2011 at 04:58 PM.
I was making the point that I don't want you think we are some misfits in the ACVW forum. You said we should be lucky. I was pointing that we are not the only is all.
^^ I'm with him...some of us take this hobby pretty seriously...
so when an air cooled chit chat thread turns into a bunch of guys bashing each other,the threads gonna get locked..on ANY forum.
it's kind of play on words thread anyways..it says "air cooled chit chat thread" but it's discription is "for whatever you wanna talk about"...so it isn't about air cooled it's about bulls--t....
...if your not talking about the cars and the hobby then why are we here?...
take a gander over at "yellowbullet.com" and check out that nut place....100's of threads and topics about hot rods,pro mods,drag racing you name it...then in the "thrash or be thrashed" section is insane.
at least here it's a little more chilled.
What I am saying is you guys are lucky to have a thread for chit chat in ACVW forum, which I think personally is great (I was trying to get one for MK6 forums but the Big Boss shot it down lol)
I think the Aircooled community is more than just about cars. The problem is when people come on here just to start trouble and things go down quickly which I think is sad.
I think every model should have it's own chit chat thread for random talk, and as long as it's kept clean it is great.
Yes I did. Apparently speculating as to what "CF" would stand for is grounds for insulting moderators.
But then again, I'll never know. I said that to both Silver and CF and went to check for responses, turns out "Game Over. Insert Coin to Continue"
So I did. ROUND 2 - FIGHT!
Picture of wire-frame Beetle makes post Air-Cooled related
i got bored, so i came back. question: why is it forbidden to talk about non aircooled stuff in a forum.. it just seems like nonsence restricting us to strictly talk about aircooleds. think of it this way. say we were a club and met up daily to talk. we obviously are going to get off topic after a while unless subjects are brought up. it's like nazi buisness restricting friends from talking to eachother about stuff.
the first Amendment....
champagne taste with a beer budget.
WHOA WHOA WHOA DON'T SAY HE'S A NAZI
You'll get banned for that.
Also, thats what we had. This was more an air cooled garage than an air cooled shop. Because at shops, everyone has to work. Everyone has to be doing their own thing and only collaborate for technical reasons.
Garages are where friends get together to shoot ****.
And now we have a property owner sending a security guard to make sure we don't have any fun.
Inb4 second ban
If you cant follow the rules, the ones you agreed to when you joined the forum, twice, then you can leave.
If you think a moderator is out of control, you can contact the admins and discuss it.
Also Loose, It's funny how when you post a Fiat thread in here, you get upset when it gets closed, but when you post the same thread on the Samba, you put it in the OFF TOPIC section?
In all seriousness, though... I think a lot of the misunderstanding here has to do with how the forums are structured. On Vortex, we have a couple of different areas. One of those are the model specific forums, of which the Aircooled forum is one. The model specific forums are set aside for discussion only of that specific model (or in the case of Aircooled, models, since we have lumped all of the Aircooled cars together). We also have a Community section, with multiple forums for all sorts of other topics, and a general Off Topic forum as well. In addition to that, we also have the regional forums. We ask that people keep other, non model specific discussion in the other appropriate forums. We do this because our forum community is HUGE, and if we allowed OT discussion in the model specific forums it would drown out the discussion of the cars that is the purpose for them in the first place.
In most model specific forums, we don't even allow chitchat type threads, because they quickly become hundreds of pages long and are impossible to moderate. The aircooled forum is a little bit of an exception, as we realize that you guys are a little bit different type of community than the rest of the forums, and this forum also doesn't get the traffic levels of a place like the MKVI Golf / Jetta forum, for example, which is why they aren't allowed a chitchat thread and you guys are.
Despite the fact that we give you guys a little more leeway than some other places, though, it is important that everyone realize that the rules are still going to be enforced here, though.This includes things like off topic threads being locked, insulting other members or using profanity not being ok, etc. If there are any questions about this, please have a look at the rules.
We're not trying to be jerks. We're not trying to make sure that no one has any fun. We often use the bar analogy to describe this place, but a garage analogy is a good one too. Think of this as a big garage that we own. We invite anyone and everyone to come in, hang out, work on their car, whatever. We provide the space, the lifts, and pay the bills for electricity and heat, and all we ask is that everyone read the rules on their way in the door and pay attention to them. Occasionally we'll get someone who will come in and start being a jerk to some of the other people who are hanging out, ignore the rules, and generally just cause trouble. When that happens, yes, we will talk to that person about it. If they want to knock it off, it's all bygones and no one cares. If they keep on being a jerk, though, sooner or later we'll show them the door.
On the whole, though, we'd much rather just let everybody hang out and have a good time.
Hey SMART GUY if i placed a thread in the wrong damn spot, move it to the right one like they do "and do all the time" not lock it. You should have been able to at least do that and leave a shadow thread here directing us over to the right area. this is what i mean about you being new at this mod thing.
and if you want to start all this SH1T back up again and through comments like this one to poke at a member here, take it to PM, you should be smart enough not to throw jab out in the open like this considering all that's been said and done. knowing its going to start this all backup
Now i let it all go I think you need to do the same and we can let it all go and get back on track
Last edited by LooseNuts; 07-24-2011 at 02:24 PM.
Well I for one see the garages as a place for socializing. We come to the Air Cooled section because we A] all have the common Air Cooled interest and B] don't want to post where the water-cooled Hipsters and JDM wannabe golf ricers can engage in discussion about what we as air cooled buddies want to talk about.
Why that dynamic has to change, I don't understand. Because it's against the rules, I get. But we were fine for as long as I've been coming to the site, and what, because Bryce and I got into a fight or Pad and Gambino? Oddly enough, Bryce and I worked it out without moderators. We're buddies now. He's buying me beer next weekend for christs' teeth, because our little community handled it by alienating us.
Silver - I contend that the new-to-us policy of moderation is much more overbearing than we're comfortable with and some of us, I know, find it unnecessary.
Unless, you know, there's some event that I'm missing that warranted this moderation. (Don't say because I posted that Fresh Prince "the ****" picture, I did that after the new mod started deleting and locking my own posts)
I keep thinking of the thread where Daft and myself joked around about being "elected" moderators (like either of us really want that thankless job!!) and cfvwtuner chimed in exclaiming that he would not post here anymore until the powers that be made him a mod like he was promised!! I still laugh when I read his "mod" posts. I hope it makes him feel important to finally be in charge, Ill just go right back to living my life, thanks.
-As Ive said over and over, stop taking the interwebs so seriously!!! Your hobby should be fun. Have things gotten a little out of hand around here, yeah. Have I been involved, for sure. In fact Im willing to bet that if gambino and I had the exact same conversation as we had in his thread face to face it wouldve ended alot quicker. Not with us fighting it out physically like children but with laughter because we both said some funny as s S hit to each other. It all worked out and we are almost friendly.
RIP 1.9L Lysholm Corrado (I8AVR6) and your Turbo charged sister (TRBRADO) 68 Baja and 64 slammed standard. Too many GTi's to count..
I respect what most have to say here, but isn't this conversation beating a dead horse by now??? As long as the mods understand that we are completely capable of working things out on out own terms everything will be fine. I really cannot understand this problem as of late, it makes no sense whatsoever, and in fact is rather childish to think we are actually being governed by a "mod". This is america and we are able to talk about whatever we damn well please. If a thread gets outta control, contact the OP and see what their opinion is before they lock it up or delete it spontaneously and pissing everyone off all together . Is it really that hard? I understand some words were exchanged between members and mods, but it was all blown wayyyyy outta proportion IMO. Its the internet ppl, lets all get a grip and get back to the REAL task at hand, building and saving true german autos. If words are exchanged in the mean time, whoooooo caressssss, it will pass and they will eventually be worked out or just simply fade away.
And Pad, I totally agree, if we were all shootin the sh it at a gtg or in someones garage our past convos definitely wouldn't have escalated as it did on here. But hey, its the internet forum and I guess you'll have this crap pop up once and a while. However, it's really no big deal at all. Hopefully, one day, I really wish, that the bulk of the regular posters in this forum could actually get together somewhere, maybe at some large event and really find out what everyone is all about. Until then, cant we all just get along??