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    Thread: BFI - Clean Catch Crankcase Oil Separator - for 2.0T FSI!

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      02-22-2012 03:29 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      A catch can that empties to your oil pan is not ideal for a street driven vehicles.
      The can not only catches oil vapors, but as a consequence of the design water vapor will accumulate in the catch can as well.
      If this water was recirculated back into your oil pan, it would pollute the oil and reduce its ability to properly lubricate your engine.
      Routine emptying of our Clean Catch products is required in order for the product to work correctly...
      Is the Air/Oil Separator suitable for a stock/daily driver?- Yes... You can pull the intercooler off your new car with only 500 miles on it and find oil inside of it. The purpose of the AOS is to remove this oil from the intake system to lessen the possibility of detonation which is the main cause of broken ring lands on the stock pistons. As you increase your HP, the amount of blow by passing through your breather system increases as well. This scenario also increases the need for our AOS.

      A catch can needs to be emptied of its hazardous waste on a regular basis. Our AOS needs ZERO maintenance. A catch can emits the unpleasant smell of the crankcase fumes. Our AOS doesn't smell and is emissions friendly. Most catch can systems end up leaking or spewing oil in/on your engine bay while our AOS keeps everything clean and tidy.

      Also with oil not being removed from the pan, there is no worry of running low on oil whatsoever...also I don't personally know about the smell issue and maybe its more directed at VTA cans, but it's a good point nonetheless.

      An regarding the moisture theory there is this:

      3. What causes the yellow gunk? This is a mixture of oil and water. Usually when the water in the engine heats up it vaporizes and makes its way out the breather system. If it stays in vapor form it will make its way out the top of the AOS and into the intake. We have found from our cold weather customers that condensation is occurring inside our AOS as it is colder than the engine. This condensation is mixing with the oil in the AOS causing the yellow gunk. To fix this issue we have made a cold weather version that incorporates a heater inside the AOS to keep the AOS at the same temperature as the engine. With them being the same temperature, condensation will not occur leaving the water vapor to flow out the top of the AOS and into the intake system.

      Now these replies are from a STi forum, but the physics and functionality are the same

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      03-12-2012 02:44 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Kelion View Post
      Is the Air/Oil Separator suitable for a stock/daily driver?- Yes... You can pull the intercooler off your new car with only 500 miles on it and find oil inside of it. The purpose of the AOS is to remove this oil from the intake system to lessen the possibility of detonation which is the main cause of broken ring lands on the stock pistons. As you increase your HP, the amount of blow by passing through your breather system increases as well. This scenario also increases the need for our AOS.

      A catch can needs to be emptied of its hazardous waste on a regular basis. Our AOS needs ZERO maintenance. A catch can emits the unpleasant smell of the crankcase fumes. Our AOS doesn't smell and is emissions friendly. Most catch can systems end up leaking or spewing oil in/on your engine bay while our AOS keeps everything clean and tidy.

      Also with oil not being removed from the pan, there is no worry of running low on oil whatsoever...also I don't personally know about the smell issue and maybe its more directed at VTA cans, but it's a good point nonetheless.

      An regarding the moisture theory there is this:

      3. What causes the yellow gunk? This is a mixture of oil and water. Usually when the water in the engine heats up it vaporizes and makes its way out the breather system. If it stays in vapor form it will make its way out the top of the AOS and into the intake. We have found from our cold weather customers that condensation is occurring inside our AOS as it is colder than the engine. This condensation is mixing with the oil in the AOS causing the yellow gunk. To fix this issue we have made a cold weather version that incorporates a heater inside the AOS to keep the AOS at the same temperature as the engine. With them being the same temperature, condensation will not occur leaving the water vapor to flow out the top of the AOS and into the intake system.

      Now these replies are from a STi forum, but the physics and functionality are the same

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      03-14-2012 05:10 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Krieger View Post
      cool pic, terrible beer!
      The Koozies fit all makes and models.
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    5. 03-15-2012 10:18 PM #40
      excuse my ignorance but this is the same as a traditional catch can yes?

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      04-26-2012 12:58 PM #41
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      05-24-2012 08:10 PM #44
      I would love to buy this Clean Catch Can since IMO it's the best looking on all the market!... The bad thing is that my car came with a Charcoal Canister! Do you have any application or solution for this?

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      Bump!

    11. 05-29-2012 10:57 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by BETOGLI View Post
      I would love to buy this Clean Catch Can since IMO it's the best looking on all the market!... The bad thing is that my car came with a Charcoal Canister! Do you have any application or solution for this?
      We are working on it, but its going to be some time before we expect it to be available. While this is for the rest of world cars everything outside the U.S. has a canister.

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      05-29-2012 12:24 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by black forest ind View Post
      We are working on it, but its going to be some time before we expect it to be available. While this is for the rest of world cars everything outside the U.S. has a canister.
      Thanks for letting me know this! And for sure I'll buy two of them once they're realized!

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      06-02-2012 09:58 PM #48
      For the "average" customer what do you expect drain intervals to be?

    14. 06-04-2012 10:09 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by webcrawlr View Post
      For the "average" customer what do you expect drain intervals to be?
      Unfortunately it varies a lot depending on the driver and their surrounding climate. At the very least you should check it at every oil change if not sooner. If the dipstick reads full, dump it.

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      06-30-2012 11:05 AM #50
      Call me a noob, but I have a question.

      On the stock pcv it dumps the crank case pressure into the intake manifold, correct? With the catch can setup the intake manifold is capped off. After the oil is seperated the pressure looks to go back into the valve cover. Where does it go after that? Why cap the intake manifold? My main question is, where does the crankcase pressure go after the oil is seperated?

      Total catch can noob and trying to wrap my head around it. Thanks
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    16. 07-02-2012 10:56 AM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by bryangb View Post
      Call me a noob, but I have a question.

      On the stock pcv it dumps the crank case pressure into the intake manifold, correct? With the catch can setup the intake manifold is capped off. After the oil is seperated the pressure looks to go back into the valve cover. Where does it go after that? Why cap the intake manifold? My main question is, where does the crankcase pressure go after the oil is seperated?

      Total catch can noob and trying to wrap my head around it. Thanks
      The 2.0T FSI has two pcv ports - that alternate direction depending on load and vacuum/boost level. Our system blocks off the pcv port to the manifold - or in reality - redirects it back through the port in the valve cover to the rear pcv port. That way all pcv gasses pass through the catch can before entering the intake tract. It also allows the pcv to maintain constant draw.

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      07-02-2012 10:19 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by black forest ind View Post
      The 2.0T FSI has two pcv ports - that alternate direction depending on load and vacuum/boost level. Our system blocks off the pcv port to the manifold - or in reality - redirects it back through the port in the valve cover to the rear pcv port. That way all pcv gasses pass through the catch can before entering the intake tract. It also allows the pcv to maintain constant draw.
      Where does the rear pcv port dump?
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    18. 07-03-2012 10:18 AM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by bryangb View Post
      Where does the rear pcv port dump?
      The rear port attaches to the intake plumbing just above the turbo.

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      Our Waterfest Promotion has ended. Thanks for all the orders.
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    21. 08-22-2012 01:47 PM #56
      What are you guys doing with the rear hose off the valve cover. Doesn't that go right to the intake?

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      wheres your mk4 / 1.8t catch can setups...
      Soon. We have a prototype coming and we'll have it installed on my 1.8t GLI.
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      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      Soon. We have a prototype coming and we'll have it installed on my 1.8t GLI.
      I can install a prototype on my car ;-)
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      ... I need one... But my car has a Charcoal Canister!

    31. 12-05-2012 08:19 PM #66
      Two weeks and it still hasn't shipped

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      12-06-2012 10:41 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by crew219 View Post
      Two weeks and it still hasn't shipped
      We have been communicating with customers that were impacted by component delay and now, to the best of my knowledge, all Clean Catch orders have already shipped.
      If you have not received your tracking number via e-mail, please send me a PM with your information and I will investigate the whereabouts of your order.
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    33. 12-07-2012 08:52 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      We have been communicating with customers that were impacted by component delay and now, to the best of my knowledge, all Clean Catch orders have already shipped.
      If you have not received your tracking number via e-mail, please send me a PM with your information and I will investigate the whereabouts of your order.
      I was sent tracking info on the 3rd which didn't move until you delivered it to USPS on the 5th.

      Placed the order at 12:06AM on black friday. Should have been one of the first ones sent out. I received no such communication until I called in after a week of not receiving a tracking number. Was promised that my order would ship within the next two days. Took a week from that call for it to ship.

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      12-07-2012 10:33 AM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by crew219 View Post
      I was sent tracking info on the 3rd which didn't move until you delivered it to USPS on the 5th.

      Placed the order at 12:06AM on black friday. Should have been one of the first ones sent out. I received no such communication until I called in after a week of not receiving a tracking number. Was promised that my order would ship within the next two days. Took a week from that call for it to ship.

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      Dave,

      USPS picks up from our facility, so the package should have been picked up same day, or next business day. Keep in mind USPS tracking information is not as "real-time" as, say, UPS. Maybe there's just a delay on the information they're providing via their website. I couldn't say for sure without looking at it.

      We were in contact with all Clean Catch orders throughout the delay, explaining why orders were not being processing immediately. If your order was not on the compiled list and you did not receive these notifications, I do apologize. By no means were we intentionally withholding information from you.

      Demand exceeded our projected targets, which caused minor delays from the start. In addition to that, we also encountered a production delay on a key component of the Clean Catch system; this also added to order delays. All of this was communicated to those customers, but again, if your order was not on our compiled list and you did not receive this information via e-mail, I truly apologize.

      We appreciate your business and I welcome you to e-mail or PM me if you have any additional concerns about this purchase, or future purchases.

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